MR PERFECT said:nobody asks our stars to come to india?! LOL.
samiyah, samiyah, samiyah....
last i checked, maummar was asked by that debutant director during a cricket game, to make an appearance in his movie.
last i checked, it was the organizers of that award show, who invited resham, reema, and javaid sheikh to attend.
last i checked, it was some indian producer who asked the late great NFAK to come 2 india and make the music for the film aur pyar ho gaya.
last i checked, it was pooja bhat who literally went out of her way to COME to pakistan and ask ali azmat and rahat fateh ali khan to do the music for paap.
last i checked it was some indian tv show that invited ghulam ali to be a judge for a singing contest.
these are but a few examples. ofcourse india offers a bigger platform to showcase talent (thanks to their media). but nobody's goin' ANYWHERE from pak, unless they're ASKED - with the exception of adnan sami.
and what a difference he made 2 a virtually non-existant indian pop music scene!! he breathed life into that industry (pop music). and now, ur after our kickass bands like strings, fuzon, aaroh and so on!! its aiight samiyah....u indians know ur movies. but pop music...dream on.
MR PERFECT said:nobody asks our stars to come to india?! LOL.
samiyah, samiyah, samiyah....
last i checked, maummar was asked by that debutant director during a cricket game, to make an appearance in his movie.
last i checked, it was the organizers of that award show, who invited resham, reema, and javaid sheikh to attend.
last i checked, it was some indian producer who asked the late great NFAK to come 2 india and make the music for the film aur pyar ho gaya.
last i checked, it was pooja bhat who literally went out of her way to COME to pakistan and ask ali azmat and rahat fateh ali khan to do the music for paap.
last i checked it was some indian tv show that invited ghulam ali to be a judge for a singing contest.
these are but a few examples. ofcourse india offers a bigger platform to showcase talent (thanks to their media). but nobody's goin' ANYWHERE from pak, unless they're ASKED - with the exception of adnan sami.
and what a difference he made 2 a virtually non-existant indian pop music scene!! he breathed life into that industry (pop music). and now, ur after our kickass bands like strings, fuzon, aaroh and so on!! its aiight samiyah....u indians know ur movies. but pop music...dream on.
samiyah said:
i never said they were not asked or invited i said they choose to come to india! it was their choice at the moment to choose whether they wanted to come to india and get fame or stay in pakistan and choose not to and stay in the dark. ofcourse india is gonna, they are always looking for opportunity to improve their sales and their name, especially now to improve peace relations. its your actors who are choosing to make their career better and they know going to india is their only option if they want to get recognized. if your actors believed that your country could do so much for them they would have stuck there and waited to get famous but they choose to come to india where their fame was instantly given to them and they knew their talent would be respected and recognized. india doesnt need them for their talent, india wants them for the money they are gonna make off of them and for the recognition they will get for making the first move towards making relations better, india is benefitting more by making sure that when your actors get here they know they are in india where their dreams will come true and they can always be thankful to india!
MR PERFECT said:ofcourse they 'choose' to go to india. when you're asked...why would you say no? they're not jackasses. lol.
are you telling me that rahat fateh ali khan, ali azmat, maummar rana, ghulam ali, reema, and so on, were not famous BEFORE they came 2 india?! LOL i suppose NFAK was also not famous b4 he came to india right? lol. they were freakin' allstars in pakistan having made a HUGE name for themselves. then when they were ASKED to come 2 india...they did so, in order to conquer another market - which they did. nothing wrong with that. they don't 'owe' india anything.
india doesn't want them for their talent? LOL. oh samiyah...whats wrong with u?! are you aware that pooja bhat and her husband heard the garbage that anu malik made for her movie, and she was disgusted? LOL. then her husband suggested crossing the boarder and asking the former vital sign member to not only RE-DO the music, but also suggest other pakistani singers to help out: enter rahat, and ali azmat! FACT is.....we have ALOT more talent when it comes to music. shortly after paap....some bollywood director made a movie called rakht, and guess what.....he came lookin' 4 the pakistani band AAROH!! ya'll KNOW we kick ass when it comes to music. why can't u admit this? lol
samiyah said:
Exactly why would you say No to India?? It just says that you do know India is good and its even better then what your country can offer for your stars. Nusrat and Junoon are the only ones who made themeselves popular outside of pakistan but the other stars didnt stand a chance unless someone wanted to explore sufism again. All them were just invited for peace related issues once all that ends your back to square one wiht our teachings! Those stars only have hope from India because even Strings after coming to India got a contract with Spiderman 2 through sony. As for Pooja Bhatt she did it for the peace process, her family from the beggining including her father always wanted both countries to get along and they both condenmed anti-paki movies and she wanted to only use pakistani music when faisel who had contacts in the indian industry started passing his demo tape around and becausae her husband happened to be friends wiht faisel thought the sufi music would go perfect with the movie and its theme! no one from their was dying and waiting for a pakistani to come and sing a song for them it just so happened it came their way and what better way to improve peace, raise publicity and use it in the movie when it's right in their front of their face! After you read the article you will see that it was them who made an indian listen to the tape and they were about to put away the songs and give up till they got their chance and someone actually appreciated and liked it and they proved themselves. You should be thankful india is giving your people the opportunity to show their talents off because in your country their talents arent even appreciated until now people in your country are beggining to give your people the respect they should have deserved way before we came into the picture!
your film industry could have done better if they had confidence in their own people, even today javed sheikh is making movies wiht lots of confidence because he knows indian's are helping him and he has the right camera's, talents, guidance he needs, he knows now that he makes a movie it will be viewed without having to worry if your people like it!
ScotchTape said:SO now you are going to tell us that Pakistan didn't respect NFAK or Strings or Junoon?
samiyah said:
if indians didnt do it on their own then how did they do it??? they didnt go to other countries and have to make them see their talent, their talents were discovered cause they worked themselves up and got it on their own, unlike your people who are getting it from india, their talents are being focused on and respected because india is their platform of success, if those people stayed in pakistan they would have stayed in pakistan. indians are not using pakistanis they are appreciating unlike you people who are gaining so much from india are the users! its not only about the greens look at strings if they are getting the paycheck they arent even getting the respect they should demand they be known as pakistani's and not indians, if you go to their site at one time they had india all over it and on their album they are gonna have it say hindi instead of urdu! how come strings will not represent your country if they are so proud of where they come from?? as for just making greens and going back home?? are u serious your stars like reema, momi, zeba, adnan all want fame in india because your country doesnt not only provide decent money to them but you guys dont even support or respect them. all the people do is complain how they dont do this and that and finally when india is accepting them and allowing them some fame you people go and claim them as always being stars and always being your favorite! i agree its about give and take but dont tell me that your actors are not getting more then they ever dreamed of. This just shows that India and Indians are not bad people and they do allow even their rival country people to come and have their dreams and talents recognized without anything in return, do you think your country would give to someone wihtout expecting from them?? i just want you to realize that your people that come to india to give india the pop scene are not doing it only for money they are doing it because they are getting what they always wanted respect and recognition that you people couldnt give them and you should respect india for giving them that and not criticize india because if it was such a bad country your stars wouldnt be their getting respect and help in the first place.