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wot do u think abt women status in our society ??
im not asking abt wot is said in books,,, or wot our status is supposed to b according to Quran,,,
only the reality,, hamari society mei aurat ka status aur uss ki kya izzat hai ??
AURAT means,,, woman
na maa,,, na behen,,, only a woman
waiting
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thnx for ur post
but aik baat pe ikhtelaaf
hmm,,, i personaly dont agree abt ur middle class opinion
mera khyal se sab se bure log middle class wale hote hein.. it can b proved vvv easily,,, hamare mulk mei mejority log middle class se taluk rakhte hein,,, aur kissi bhi jaga ki society aur taur tareeke majority hi banati hai,,, aik nazar daliye apne mulk pe sab samajh aa jae gi
khair yeh aik alag masla hai...
back to women,,,
aurat ki izzat ka uss ki numaish se kya taluk ??
yeh baat durust k numaish galt cheez hai,, but mere nazdeek acha aur izzat daar shaks to wohi hota hai na jo harr aik ki izzat karna janta ho
jiss shaks ki aankh mei sharam hoti hai,, usse iss se kya matlab k samne khari aurat ne kya pehna hai, ya kitna make up kiya hai ??
and btw,,, aurat numaish kiss liye karti hai,,, just to have some attention,,, jo usse saari umer kissi se nahi milti wo obvisouly she chose a 'wrong' way
seedhi si baat hai,,, larke ka rishte jab dhoonda jata hai to apne bete mei chahe 280 aieb hon,, par amma jii bahu chaand ka tukra hi dhoondti hein,,
to phir numaish kyun na ho ???
and iss baat se koi inkaar nahi kar sakta k hamari poori society mei jo chez harr class mei common hai woh hai numaisha,, sirf aurat ki nahi,,, harrr aik cheez ki,, daulat ki, khoobsurti ki, apni taleem ki, apne khandan k unche hone ki
one to alll tamaam log jhoooti chamak pe marte hein,,
hadees mei kaha gaya hai k,,, kissi kaum ka zawal uss k bachon aur aurat se start hota hai
par jiss society mei aurat ki koi izzat na ho,, uss society ki aurat se aap kya expect karte hein ???
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Sorry sall, but I guess there are several questions I have before I could give my view on your query.
Which society you are referring to?
How do you define respect?
When you are trying to measure it, what are you comparing it with? what is the standard?
In general, their respect is as much as they have earned, plus/minus societal/cultural standards/influences/values plus/minus individual personality & character traits.
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hmmm,,
let s say our paki society
(without any comparasion to other countries)
Respect.... something u want to see in others eyes for ur own sister, mother and daughter
Status.. wot are her rights
""their respect is as much as they have earned""
that s wot allllllllllll pakis say,, but wot does it mean
kya kissi buri aurat ko buri nazar se dekhna sawab hai ??
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SALL said: hmmm,,
let s say our paki society
(without any comparasion to other countries)
I don't liv in Pak, so I don't know much. However, my knowledge of it - double standards. Woman - a multiuse object. An object whose feelings mean little and sacrificed often for so called dignity of man.
SALL said:
Respect.... something u want to see in others eyes for ur own sister, mother and daughter
Status.. wot are her rights
In a society where sacrilege of others dignity taken for fun while of own held in high esteem - dignity of women of others are of lesser value. We forgot a very fundamental principle that our prophet taught us, "A believer is one who loves for fellow believer what he/she loves for self" meaning, otherwise claimant is not a real believer. In a society where such values are only held by a thread, only desires matter most. that time is not far when people wouldn't care for the rights of women in their own household.
SALL said:
""their respect is as much as they have earned""
that s wot allllllllllll pakis say,, but wot does it mean
kya kissi buri aurat ko buri nazar se dekhna sawab hai ??
ignored other parts of the equation!
Respect is earned. One, who by virtue of their habits and character earns disrespect doesn't deserve equal status of one who earns it. This doesn't mean one must cast a filthy eye on her or usurp her other rights. Its not only woth women, it also applies to men of poor character.
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hmmm...
as usual that wot i was expecting SD :)
i wonder others have nothing to say abt suchhh a serious pb,,, as usual
kyaaa hogaaa,, kyaaaaa hoga
kyaaa hoggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
errrghhhhhhhhhh....