tsunami waves....

do thy hve pic of tht???

there wasn't a pic on newspaper

Colombo - God signed His name in the tsunami that battered Sri Lanka and other countries on December 26, and sent it as punishment because humans have been ignoring His laws, Sri Lankan Muslims say.

Proof, according to Mohamed Faizeen, manager of the Centre for Islamic Studies in Colombo, is a satellite picture taken seconds after the tsunami smashed into Sri Lanka's west coast near the town of Kalutara and as it was receding.

"This clearly spells out the name 'Allah' in Arabic," Faizeen said, pointing to the shape of the waves - a gigantic "E" complete with whorls and sidewaves that do indeed appear to combine to resemble the Arabic script for the name "Allah".

The picture was taken by the DigitalGlobe Quickbird satellite on December 26 at 10:20am local time, shortly after the moment of tsunami impact. It can be viewed at the website "Allah signed His name," Faizeen said. "He sent it as punishment. This comes from ignoring His laws."

He likened the tsunami to the Old Testament account of floods being sent by God in the time of Noah as punishment for those who had drifted from His ways.

He added that he had visited the mainly Muslim Ulvae, near the major town of Batticaloa, and found that a madrassa - an Islamic religious school - had been left untouched while 400 houses around it had been flattened with great loss of life.

The shorelines of many Asian countries hit by the waves had become playgrounds for Westerners and errant Muslims. Vices such as prostitution and drinking were rife, the cleric said.

"Allah first sends small punishments - like loss of business. If we ignore the warning, He sends bigger ones - loss of life. If we still ignore the warnings, the big punishments, like earthquakes and tsunamis will come."

Faizeen said areas of Sri Lanka mainly populated by Muslims were the hardest hit and that the waves were aimed at Muslims in Indonesia and Sri Lanka who he said had strayed from God's ways.

The island is around 70 percent Buddhist, 15 percent Hindu, 7.5 percent Muslim and 7.5 percent Christian.

Another Muslim leader, Muhammed Fawmey of the International Islamic Youth Front, said he too believed the tsunami was sent by God.

"He clearly signed His name in the waves," said Fawmey, who said the Arabic script in the waves had suddenly "appeared to me as in a vision" when he was staring at the satellite picture.

"The Koran says people can be punished through water or through fire," he added, referring to Islam's sacred scripture.

Scientists have a more rational explanation for the December 26 tsunami - an undersea earthquake measuring 9.0 on the Richter scale off the west coast of northern Sumatra.

"Near the source of submarine earthquakes, the seafloor is 'permanently' uplifted and down-dropped, pushing the entire water column up and down, the US Geological Survey says on its website.

alif kahan hai ???
means first letter!!

hamay tou nahin nazar aa raha!!

gaur se dekho..

rrrriiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhhtttttttt

what newspaper was it then?

i read a church and another religiosu building was saved too...what wud that mean then?

does this mean all the people...kids included who died in the disaster were sinners punished by god?

whats the point of this...

nooo. It's ALLAH(swt)'s sign that DAY OF JUDGEMENT is coming! So beware...
The small signs of Day of Judgement are that there will be more earthquakes and disasters in the world then ever before. This is also the sign of human being's sins that they have done

shahrukh khan said:

He likened the tsunami to the Old Testament account of floods being sent by God in the time of Noah as punishment for those who had drifted from His ways.

matlab ye tu BIBLE main bhee hai .. .. well its in Quran as well..

srk topic ka name change ker dein .. coz us ka matlab kuch aur banta hai .. is ko in ker dein..

Manie said:

i read a church and another religiosu building was saved too...what wud that mean then?

i dono about the church.. laiken aik masjid wahaan par zaroor bach gaiy hai .. Allah shows kay wo jis cheez ko bachana chatay hein bacha laitay hein ...

Manie said:

does this mean all the people...kids included who died in the disaster were sinners punished

by god?

According to my info .. ziada kids bachay hein .. baray ziada maray hein ... ye bhee tu aik nasahni hai .. kids innocent hotay hein ..

F16..as far as i hve heard
childern were the ones who suffered most..heard it on news
more than 10,000 childern died coz of tsunami waves.
there is no definite number of childern thoz r still missin.. as result of epidermics .. more r dying
!

shahrukh khan said:

gaur se dekho..

still i cant make it out..!!
i m not saying tht its a lie..
bt its still not clear..!!
it was the small whirlpool caused by tsunami..@ the edges of the sea!
it is suppose 2 look like ths!!

A large proportion of southern Asia's dead were children — as many as half the victims in Sri Lanka, according to officials there. A bulldozer dug a mass grave in southern India for 150 young boys and girls, as their weeping parents looked on.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,142597,00.html


kids died mate
they suffered the most.

u can blv what u want...punishment by god or just a natural disaster...i firmly blv watever happens , happens for a reason ..and by God's will.

hmm alrite .. ok .. children suffered too .. laiken itnay nahi jitnay baray maray hein.. i dono the xact number .. laiken news main suna tha ..kay aik 22 days old baby bach gia hai aur chotay bachay bhee deekhayee thay ... kuch loog is island say doosray island main pocchch gaiy waves kay saath .. aur kuch loog abhee bhee mill rahay hein kuch dead aur kuch alive bhee ..

hum tu wohee keh rahay hein jo pata chala hai jo news pata chal raheen hein..

bakhair

mein ne is bare mein daily times mein para .....wahan k
ek writer named najam sathi ka kehna hay k jab bi samander mein koi toofan aaey to isi qisam ki shape banti hay


   aur waise bi agar azab agar ana tha to hazaron lakhon log jo k innocent the kionn mare aur Indonesia mein to sare muslims hain

so my frnds i still have doubts abt this new report

coz wo hamaree tarhaan kay hee muslims thay .. sirf naam kay
.. udher aik meri jaannay walee gaiyee theen kuch arsa pehlay tu unhoon nay bataya tha kay wahaan loog araam say pig meat kha rahay thay .. aur wahaan kay beaches ka tu koi haal he nahi tha ... agar aisay muslims hoo gay tu un par azaab nahi aiy ga tu aur kia aiy ga..?!?

.. its a lesson for all of us..

no comments rani???

sorry yar mein is se thora sa disagrre karoon ga

80000 muslms ........yar its too much [in indns] Allah kabhi bi innocent par azab nai lata ........aur wahan
k rules kuch ase hain lekin wahan k awam is tara k nai hain

Emaan walay hamaisha thoray he hotay hein ... aur aik baat aur .. jo loog burayee say nahi rooktay wo bhee unheein logoon main shumaar kiay jatay hein jo kay kertay hein ... chahay 80000 ya jitnay marzee hoon .. aur app ko kaisay pata kay wo saab muslims thay??? agar wo innocent hotay tu na maray jatay coz Allah Tallah apnay naik bandoon ko azaab nahi daita .. ye baat tu Quran main bhee likhee hai..

yaar Muslim jab azaab ata hai DEKHA NAHI JATA KEY KAUN INNICENT AUR KAUN UNINNICENT

aisa hi sawaal kisi sahabi ne MOHAMMEDE (PBUH) se poocha tha ke "azaab ata hai jo gareeb haur bache bhi maare jate hain..leken kyun" MOHAMMED (PBUH) ne kaha key agar tumhein aik keera kaate ga...leken tum sab keeron ko maar do gey...ab dekho kasoor aik ka tha aur sab ko maar diya

Manie said:

A large proportion of southern Asia's dead were children — as many as half the victims in Sri Lanka, according to officials there. A bulldozer dug a mass grave in southern India for 150 young boys and girls, as their weeping parents looked on.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,142597,00.html


kids died mate
they suffered the most.

u can blv what u want...punishment by god or just a natural disaster...i firmly blv watever happens , happens for a reason ..and by God's will.

how silly of us mortals when we witness such wonders we simply ask
"Why did God do that?"

Why did God do that to those people? I know we don't like to talk about these things but I think Muslims should be opened and confident enough to clear their own doubts and questions. How come a merciful and compassionate God cause that to happen and some people would say...there is nobody to answer that question because anybody answering to this question is claiming that he/she is reading the mind of God. If I tell you that He did this because of 1, 2, 3,.. to answer your question, I am claiming something that is horrible that I can read the mind of God. And who am I. We just say how trivial we are.

For us Muslims, not the answer that is a problem, it is the question. In the Quran, God says “He cannot be questioned as to what He does, while they will be questioned.” (al-Anbiya’ 23) . You can ask question to your wife, son, peer, your boss or to your father, but you cannot ask God, why did you do that. The moment you do this you become the God and you are reducing Him to something, astagfirullah (May Allah save us) less than what He is. He out of his mercy allowed us to ask this question. But in reality and this is what I say decides the state of faith. We are not to volunteer for such question and instead we need to acknowledge that we don't have the right to question because you question only those people who are equivalent to you and less than you.

Unfortunately, I saw in the internet and in some statements that it is because there is so much corruption, God is punishing the human beings. Who told you that? How dare you? How dare you rub it into the victims. It is so cruel to say this is punishment of God. Some say on some web page that the God is punishing the Muslims because they don't believe in Jesus (PBUH) or whatever. It doesn't matter whether who say is a Muslim or non-Muslim. It is cruel. Just imagine a friend of yours who met with a car accident and you visit him in the hospital, and say "I hope you feel well but you deserve it? It happened to you because you are rotten". What kind of sensitivity is this? We come to a huge size of victimization like this and say this is the punishment of God.

Brothers ands sisters, I can tell you based on the Quran that this is NOT a punishment of God. “If Allah were to punish people according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily Allah has in His sight all His servants." (Fatir:45). For each there is an appointed time and when the time is over it is over, it can't happen earlier and it can not happen later. This is what Quran says.

God said if I'll punish for what you do, you will not exist. He didn't say there will be no human being, he said there won't be any living creature. Because of so many things that we do, Allah decided that this is not the place to settle the accounts. the place to settle the accounts whether to punish or reward happens in what we call as Al-Akhira, i.e. after this is over.

So then how did it happen:? Someone will come and ask, I am sure I expect it, that you want to say that God does not and he did not punish the people of Lut, Noah and others. Yes, but those are specific cases after specific warnings. God says in the Quran "… We never punish until We have sent a messenger." (al-Isra: 15). No people will be punished this way except after messenger comes to them, explains to them and he warns them, he tells them and they disobey him and in some cases appointed by God punishment happens. And this by all means is not the rule. The rule is what Quran said that Allah will not take us to task in this life because of what we do.

We have to understand that Allah (s.w.t). has created us within a physical environment. You know brothers and sisters, we live, just imagine it on a melting metal boiling ball covered with a thin crust, 3/4th is water and it is rotating across another ball of fire called the sun. We live in a physical environment that carries with it the natural disasters, volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis etc. because this system is not created to punish or reward and this system is created to test. God says “And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to the patient.” (al-Baqarah: 155). So this is s testing system and NOT a system to achieve or accomplish punishment and reward within this system.

friend_16 said:

no comments rani???

   ary   
hamery comentz   book nahi mill rahy hya

ok Elle .. i have read wht u said ...

Allah Tallah us waqat taak azaab nahi daita jaab taak kay aik messager na un main aiy jo unko ye saab batayee .. tu aik baat Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) hamaray messager thay .. aur ab Qayamat taak koi messanger koi Nabi .. koi prohphet nahi aiy ga .. except for Hazrat Eisa ... hamain hamara msg mill chuka hai .. Hazrat Muhmmad (PBUH) nay clearly kaha tha akhiri Haj par ka main nay aj tum par apna deen muqamal ker dia hai .. so one thing should be clear kay message tu hamain mill chuka hai ...
secondly .. ye Quran main Allah Tallah nay jis tarhaan Hazrat Noah ka waqaya bataya hai .. wo is say kafee resemble kerta hai wo is tarhaan kay
1.Allah ka Azaab achanak aata hai ..
2. jaab aik Qoum haad say ziada nafarmany kertii hai .. 3. aik ye symtom hai Samunder phaat jaiy ga.. (aur ye Qayamat ki Nasahi hai) ..
4. Allah Tallah apnay NAIK bandoon ko kabhe nahi saza daita .. bohat say loog bachay bhee hein ..
5. Nafarmanoon ki tadaad hamaisha ziada he hoti hai ..

jitna mujhay pata hai .. ye Allah ka Azab hee hai .. aur ye hamaray liay aik warning hai.. kay Allah ka azab hum par bhee aa sakta hai ..

behas ye nahi hai kay ye azaab hai kay nahi .. ye hamaray liay aik naseehat hai .. (akalmand wohee hota hai jo doosroon ki ghaltiyoon say seekhay .. nakay khud choot khaiy aur phir seekhay.. )

f16..well said

thas wat im saying elle....who is anyone of us to say that them people deserved it jus cuz they was sinners?

ive been told of people not giving aid for the people saying its not right cuz they was punished by God?

These "Naik" people
ive had it with them!

Holier than faking thou, never have time to pray, plenty to yammer on online about social and spiritual disputes that really don't affect them (as if these people gave a sh*t about you and me or anyone else).
They also never have time to bother with self-correction or be better human beings. Sidestepping is all they really do. When they're not judging or jerking off on their own souls, they're too busy complaining "hypocrite this, hypocrisy that."
Now this isn't excluse to muslims to just abuot any pakistani who thinks themselves an "Activist."

Damn.

You.

If you really gave a sh*t, you'd be actually thinking abuot improving the world around you. Who do you think you're fooling? We're not stupid. The only one who gets fooled is yourself.

Your religion is not worth the sh*t under my shoes.

What used to piss me off when I gave a damn and still irritates me is the fact that none of you, I do mean NONE OF YOU have ANY SENSE OF MORALITY.

There I said it.

Not homo sapiens.
But immoral homo erecturds.

Your morality, your religion, your sense of right and wrong is not shaped by the word of god as much as it is by your convenience. If something invisible works for you, that's fine. Helps you stay hard, that's perfect, enjoy your dances at before sunup, at sundown and three times in between.

But don't tell me you know what the "RIGHT" thing is because the "RIGHT" thing is always what you are capable of doing. Don't tell me you are RE-INTERPRETING because it's pick and choose you lazy scums. Don't tell me religion needs to evolve because it's fairly simple and set in stone.

well said

Manie said:

thas wat im saying elle....who is anyone of us to say that them people deserved it jus cuz they was sinners?

ive been told of people not giving aid for the people saying its not right cuz they was punished by God?

These "Naik" people
ive had it with them!

Holier than faking thou, never have time to pray, plenty to yammer on online about social and spiritual disputes that really don't affect them (as if these people gave a sh*t about you and me or anyone else).
They also never have time to bother with self-correction or be better human beings. Sidestepping is all they really do. When they're not judging or jerking off on their own souls, they're too busy complaining "hypocrite this, hypocrisy that."
Now this isn't excluse to muslims to just abuot any pakistani who thinks themselves an "Activist."

Damn.

You.

If you really gave a sh*t, you'd be actually thinking abuot improving the world around you. Who do you think you're fooling? We're not stupid. The only one who gets fooled is yourself.

Your religion is not worth the sh*t under my shoes.

What used to piss me off when I gave a damn and still irritates me is the fact that none of you, I do mean NONE OF YOU have ANY SENSE OF MORALITY.

There I said it.

Not homo sapiens.
But immoral homo erecturds.

Your morality, your religion, your sense of right and wrong is not shaped by the word of god as much as it is by your convenience. If something invisible works for you, that's fine. Helps you stay hard, that's perfect, enjoy your dances at before sunup, at sundown and three times in between.

But don't tell me you know what the "RIGHT" thing is because the "RIGHT" thing is always what you are capable of doing. Don't tell me you are RE-INTERPRETING because it's pick and choose you lazy scums. Don't tell me religion needs to evolve because it's fairly simple and set in stone.

to my paki sister who answered me before, all i say to uR REPLY IS THIS “And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to the patient.” (al-Baqarah: 155). So this is s testing system and NOT a system to achieve or accomplish punishment and reward within this system. ( COS I THINK I ANSWERED U ALREADY THRU OUR HOLY QURAN NOT THROUGH sheer instinct and what we have 'learnt' from our parents!!

the problem with the way some Muslimahs think is that they have been taught Islam and the holy book through teachings FROM thier relatives(mothers, fathers,grand-parents) etc... through to a long line of relatives who can pick and choose what interpretations suit them, now i ask you WHY DONT U READ THE QURAN??? ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FOR PPL LIKE MANIE WHO HAVE LOST FAITH IN UR SYSTEM OF TEACHING AND LEARNING ISLAM!!! ITS SUCH A SHAME because ISLAM is knowledge and TRUTH ppl who do not seek the truth will not find IT!!! they will not discover ALLAH,

manie, I know u may have been white-washed with anti Islamic propoganda from wherever ur from, its a shame really bcos i can see from ur posts that u are EAGER to hear the truth yet frustrated because no one is passing it on to u. What u witness in forums like these is the views of a minority group of muslims, not the WHOLE message of truth Abraham(sws),Jesus(sws),Mohamed(sws)tried to instill to people!!! i challnge u to READ the Quran i swear it will open ur eyes and ur heart!!if u want to know the truth! if u want to find why Islam is the fasted growing religion in the world...READ it THEN come to these forums and ask me a question about ISLAM I will be happy to answer u! It is EASY to use swear words and put a persons religion(way of life)down, but its a challenge to answer the ones with knowlegde isnt it?

Manie. i am glad you put it out all on the table. Anger and emotions never resolve issues, only complicate 'em. I agree wid u about tsunami victims and tht we shd help'em. I also agree wid you that many preachers of religion spend little time reflecting on self-correction, but it doesn't mean all of them are the same. I know many who preach little but practice alot. Again, don't belittle peoples religion, you may disagree with their practices and beliefs but you shouldn't ridicule anybody's religion.
Just remember one thing that whatever good we do is for our own good and what ever evil we do is bad for us and we are alone responsible and accountable for our actions and words.