.. sirf muslims jannti ??

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69. Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

hmmmmmmmmm........
believers..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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korect sall yahan to leka hay ka wo yahudi ho esayi ya sitara parast per ya ap pic ap nay kaha sa leya hay.
WASSALAM

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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SALL....Muslim ho ya Hindu ya Christians
jis nay acha kaam kiye hon gay os ki jaza millay gi..or jis nay buray kaam kiye hon gay os ki saza!!

ALLAH k samnay kisi ki neki zaya nahin ho gi..beshak woh hindu he kyun na ho..
or kisi ki burai maaf nahin ki jay gi..beshak woh muslim he kyun na ho

waisay..
SMOOTH (SD) say poocho..i bet he knws more..

he cud explain properly!!

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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maray khyal ma es ka MAFHOM kuch estra hay ka bad ma muslman to hojay ga.kaha ha janubaba ka Alam_e_Din jenab Paki app kya kahngay es kay baray ma.
wassalam

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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nehiiiiiii kash g ur totaly wrong warna app kese sa per pochlay jetnay GAR muslimz hay un ko os Dunya ma Nekay ke ajer nehi melge tabtak jab tak ya KALMA na pray.
wassalam

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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me ne tu yeh suna hai ke christians hon ya jewish yeh agar acha kaam karein ge tu in ko duniya me hi ajar mile ga qayamat ke din nahi kyonke in ka koi emaan nahi hai..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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yeh mera khyal unn logon liye hai jo ISLAM ko jante nahi hein/the,, coz Quran pak and Islam complete prev holy books and religions

aik cheez jo zehn mei rakhni chaiye,,,
SHIRK bohot bara gunah hai,, jo Khuda ki vahdaniyat pe yakeen nahi rakhte woh kafir hein....
BUT abhi bhi dunya mei aise log/areas hein jo 'uncivilised' hein,,,, aur jo ISLAM k naam se ashna tak nahi hein,,,, aar woh log amaal k ache hein to yakeenan janti hein,, coz dunya ka harrr aik mazhab achai sikhata hai,,,

khair Allah knows better,,
matlab sirf yeh tha k agar sab IMAAN WAALE aur yakeen karne wale janti hein,,, to kamzor imaan waale (chahe woh muslims hon) kya hue.............

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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u r rite nice guy
par woh unn logon liye hai jo ISLAM ko thukrate hein

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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yaar...sachi baat tou yeh hai k hamay tou itna knowedge nahin hai !!

itna pata hai k ..ALLAH nigheban hai her cheez ka..or kisi ki neki zaya nahin ho gi or kisi ki buri baaat ignore nahin ho gi!

agay ALLAH janay or os ki qudrat!
hum kia keh saktay hein

likin..jaisay pehlay kaha SD say pochna..woh online aayein tou i bet woh sahi jawab day sakein gay..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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nehiiiiiii kash g ur totaly wrong warna app kese sa per pochlay jetnay GAR muslimz hay un ko os Dunya ma Nekay ke ajer nehi melge tabtak jab tak ya KALMA na pray.
wassalam

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Hk..ALLAH behtar janta hai..jitni samjh hamay hai islam ki os hasab say jawab dia..agay jo hai woh tou ALLAH per hai..kis ko jaza deta hai or kis ko saza

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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chahe christan ho ya yahudi..wo jitne ache kaam kare..phir bhi janat naseeb nahi hogie..jab tak usko emaan nahi hoga ALLAH par aur akhirat par..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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to mera konsa koi knowledge hai yarrr..
idhar udhar se jo parha,,, jo suna,, idher post kar diya
jitni akal kaam karti hai comment kar diya
baki logon k comments parhe khud ko corect kiya kuch doosron ko correct kiya

basssss..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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kash_beauty said:
SALL....Muslim ho ya Hindu ya Christians
jis nay acha kaam kiye hon gay os ki jaza millay gi..or jis nay buray kaam kiye hon gay os ki saza!!

ALLAH k samnay kisi ki neki zaya nahin ho gi..beshak woh hindu he kyun na ho..
or kisi ki burai maaf nahin ki jay gi..beshak woh muslim he kyun na ho

waisay..
SMOOTH (SD) say poocho..i bet he knws more..
he cud explain properly!!

offcourse yaar...everyone knows that

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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SALL said:
to mera konsa koi knowledge hai yarrr..
idhar udhar se jo parha,,, jo suna,, idher post kar diya
jitni akal kaam karti hai comment kar diya
baki logon k comments parhe khud ko corect kiya kuch doosron ko correct kiya

basssss..

achi baat hai...communication karo gey tu bohat knowlegde milega

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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SALL said:
to mera konsa koi knowledge hai yarrr..

iss baat ka yakeen hai hamay...

koi baat nahin..hum bhi tumhari category say hein

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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Hazrat Eisa ki Qoum ko Christians kehtay hein .. aur Muslims hum hein .... matlab yahaan sirf NAAM muraad hein .. basically agar main keh doon kay main Muslim hoon laiken jaab taak i don't believe n practice wht islam says.. tuu i m not a muslim.. chahay naam muslim hoo .. jew hoo.. jo bhee hoo .. par banda sirf Aik Allah ka hoo .. uski wahdaniat par yakeen rakhta hoo aur akhrat par yakeen rakhta hoo .. phir chahay tu loog usay christian kahay ya jew us ka sawab Allah kay paas hai..
hope its not confusing..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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Hazrat Eisa ki Qoum ko Christians kehtay hein .. aur Muslims hum hein .... matlab yahaan sirf NAAM muraad hein .. basically agar main keh doon kay main Muslim hoon laiken jaab taak i don't believe n practice wht islam says.. tuu i m not a muslim.. chahay naam muslim hoo .. jew hoo.. jo bhee hoo .. par banda sirf Aik Allah ka hoo .. uski wahdaniat par yakeen rakhta hoo aur akhrat par yakeen rakhta hoo .. phir chahay tu loog usay christian kahay ya jew us ka sawab Allah kay paas hai..
hope its not confusing..

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Posted 28 Jan 2005

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Thanks KB for putting me above what I actually am. I've very little knowledge. Nevertheless, I hav had read about this particular ayah in the Quran in the past.

Sall, I don't know your source of this ayah, I think there is some error in the way it is scripted. Actually, this ayah is in suratul Baqarah, which should be read:
In nal ladhina amanu wal ladhina hadu wan nasara was sabe-eina man aaman billahi...remaining is correct.

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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about this this verse, it was recorded by many scholars that this ayah was cancelled by Allah (as Allah says in the same surah that Allah may cancel a verse and send another one like that or even better, He is all powerful and capable of doing what He wills).

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evn though u hve little knowledge

bt its thorough!!

atleast u can explain..

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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Even if this verse was not abrogated, it must be understood in the proper light. If you look closely, Allah says: "Indeed those who believed" and then he adds another sentence to it buy saying "and Jews and christians, and sabiens 'who believed in Allah and the last day and did the righteous deeds' they will have no fear or grief".

For other than believers, the condition came after mentioning their faith, that they believed in Allah (complete submission to the deen that reached tham) and accountability of the day of judgment and matched their belief with righteous work will be treated just like a believer from the ummah of prophet Mohammed SAW.

Allah says in surah Al-Imran, that no religion will be accepted by Allah other than Islam.

Allah swt may or may not forgive all sins but will surly not forgive sharing partners with Allah. Allah will not let anyone's good work to go waste. He will return the reward of disbelievers' good work in this life - scholars say he may make their death easy as compared to the painful death of disbelievers.

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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hmmmm..
kanfusion

surah Bakara nahi yar,,
surah Almaidah.. parah 6
ayah 69

cancel kaise

Posted 28 Jan 2005

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Pakistanis believe that islam is for the poor and it should remain that way. And they believe more in money then anything else. and ofcourse they dont fear the LAST DAY as they believe they will live forever.

Posted 29 Jan 2005

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Sorry sall, I didn't think about the ayah in Al-Maidah. Then the verses are very similar except that "Assabeen instead of "Assaboon" (where former is mafoul and later is fa'el - grammer) and in Baqarah it came after "An-nasara". Also in Baqara, another sentence comes between "Amala Salehan" and "fal Khafun..", which is "Jaza u hum inda Rabbehim" meaning their reward is with their Lord".

Essentially, it has the same meaning.

Cancel: Allah swt abrogated some worses from the Quran. There were many reasons; most known being that some ahkam came for a short term - applicable to the situation on the ground and then when things stabalized, Allah swt replaced them with more detailed ones or even completly abrogated them. Allah has the best wisdom and we know not.

When Quran was being ompiled in the time of Abu-Bakr RA and Omar RA's times, some companions brought up the issue to take the verses out of the Quran which were abrogated. Both opposed the idea saying, verses that Allah revealed and Prophet compiled it in the Quran, we do not hav the authority to take away or add even a dot from it.
This is my humble knowledge. Allah knows the best and I ask His forgiveness for any errors I made in my explanation. You might be better off asking a scholar for better explanation.

Posted 29 Jan 2005

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Extreme

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yeah,.,they says...hum muaffi maang lein gey ALLAH SEY

Posted 06 Feb 2005

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jab tak emaan nahi hoga..tab tak janat nahi naseeb hogie..offcourse achey kaam

Posted 06 Feb 2005

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sorry i completly forgot that topic

thnx SD,, got it now
agar mujhe samajhne mei galti hui,, im sorry for that,, well maafi to Allah miyan se mangni chaiye

but i took it in the sense if a 'good person' has never heard abt islam,,, or he s never been told that wot SHIRK is
matlab k,,, a (non muslim) person who s just like us,,, even much better in his acts,, but he never tried to go deeper or never tried to search for THE TRUTH :)

khair,,, i think i better stop this discussion coz i mite say something wrong without being conscious of it

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ya bilkul iman zaroori hay
kiyon k jis may aik zarra barabar iman bhi ho ga woh zaroor jannat may jay ga

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