786

JazakAllah khair for this info .. .. i never use 786 for bismiAllah..

I use... How Can We Be Sure About This Info???

thanks for the info.. well i don't use it... najaney bolatey huey aur likhtey huey kitna time lagta hai joh kuch logh 786 istemal kertey hain. it only takes a sec to say or write it down. khair

Dear Karobi_SA
I have met a lot of people who believe that 786 is used for bismillah. Today I want to erase this misconception. Therefore I wanted to share this information. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL. AMEEN.

786 is the numerical representation of "Bismillahirrahamaanirraheem" has no religious or Islamic significance

The numerals 786 or any other numerals in no way represent 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' or other Surahs of the noble Qur'ân and is not the Sunnah either.

Allah says in Qur'ân "Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'ân in order that you may understand" (12:2).

We are instructed to recite the Qur'an Majeed, as can be seen from the following verses: "And (it is) a Qur'ân which We have divided (into parts), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals. And We have revealed it by stages. (in 23 years)." (17:106); "....So RECITE as much of the Qur'ân as may be easy (for you),..." (73:20).

Now would one recite the Qur'an if it is reduced to numbers? As an example, we shall reduce the Surah Fatihah to numerical figures for the benefit of the reader :

Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem     -     ; -     786
Al-humdolillaahir rubbuaalamin     -    ;  -     632
Ar-Rahmaan-ur-Raheem     - &nb sp;   -     - & nbsp;   618
Malikay yawm-midhdeen     -  &nbs p;  -     -  &n bsp;  242
Eeyya ka Na' bo-du Wa eeyya ka nastha'een     836
Ah'daynas-sira thalmustaqeem………………….and in NO WAY sacred. It is a conspiracy against the Holy Book of Allah.

This old game of numbers was practiced by the ancient Egyptians, as did many other civilizations. Islam came to ELIMINATE ALL such superstitions, mysteries and numerological mumbo-jumbo. However, Muslims are still enslaved to the number game, and think that 786 represents BISMILLAAHIR RAHMAANIR RAHEEM.

Even Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in his letters to different heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top. Therefore, whosoever uses 786 with the intention to obtain Allah's blessings, is a misguided person and any attempt to justify it, is ignorance.

More astonishing is that fact that '786' is an aggregation of the numbers of Hindu 'Lord Hari Krishna'.

H(a)iri Kr(i)shna

h-5, r-200, r-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate of 786, Thus, the aggregate number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of being indulging in infidelity.
Islam's foundation is laid on the belief in Tawheed (oneness of God). If we associate anyone with Allah's exalted names orally or practically, we would be committing infidelity which is an unpardonable sin.

The Qur'ân warns us, one who finds a rival against Allah, Allah will never allow him to enter paradise, and his abode is the hell.

The letters by the Prophet (pbuh) to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs bear the holy words 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. This was also the case of his noble companions. Did the Prophet (pbuh) and his companions respect the Holy Words less than we do?

Was the verse, 'Today I completed your religion for you', revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) or to the so called scholars of our age who are all bent to CHANGE the Divine principles.

Now, when it became known that '786' is written in place of Hindu, 'Lord Krishna', and has no significance in the Holy Qur'ân and Sunnah, it is obviously an innovation and goes against the Divine doctrine of 'Obey Allah and His Prophet'

Similarly, some Muslims replace Allah's name by the number '66' and the Prophet's name by '92'. But if one ask, the number '420' is used against somebody's name and he is called '420'. Can he bear such an insult?
Calling someone by a nick name is also a sin.

Allah Ta'ala says, 'Don't call one another by nick names'.

If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames for fellow human beings, how can He allow the use of such insulting replacement number for Himself and His Prophet (pbuh).

'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' great significance in the Qur'ân and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the names Allah, not in the number of '786' or any other substitution.

A simple formulae to understand this is :- if G+O+D= x , then D+O+G is also = x , can anyone agree with such deceptions of satan.

May ALLAH guide us. AMEEN!

where did you get this info??

from where I got this info, if u go thru again u will find it. there are quaranic references and it is a matter of commen sence.

and

if Yaf16 posted this info before, well i did not see that, may be before my joining to the JB.

hmmm,,,,
not sure abt yeh info kitni sach hai ya nahi
but seeeee,,, for me 786 is like a sign or a symbol

using 786 doesnt mean that before doing anything u ll say 786 instead of "Bismillah"
but it s like cross is symbol of Christianism,,, Crescent is used as a symbol for Islam,,, same with 786 it s like a symbol... matlab k if u write it on a paper to be-adbi ka darr bhi itna nahi rehta (hmm i may b wrong)

lemme give a little example,,, my e mail add is
- - - - - 786@.....
me koi aur numbers bhi use kar sakti thi, as my date or yr of birth,, or any other important date,, but 786 use karna mujhe behtar laga,, coz id prefer to b recognised as a muslim... ab apne e mail add mei i cant use pooora "Bismillah"

jahan tak "kali mata" ka taluk hai to,,,, i dont realy believe this
han yeh hai k numbers use karna Sunnah nahi hai... im sorry dear fellows,, par aise to net use karna bhi sunnah nahi hai
plz dont take me wrong,, im not saying anything against sunnah,, i know the best way to follow Islam is to follow sunnah,, but honestly kahin kahin pe mujhe sahi se samajh nahi aata..
khair it s a different subject,,, hmmm lemem start a topic

khair,,, jahan tak 786 ka taluk hai to it s simple,, mera khyal use karna galt nahi hai,, baki Allah miyan knows better

khansak said:

Also it was calculated & clarified long ago that it is alternative for a hindu goddess name 'Kali Mata'. Long before the partition of India/Pakistan when the hindus and muslims were living together this tradition came into practice due to unawareness of Islam.

khansak said:

More astonishing is that fact that '786' is an aggregation of the numbers of Hindu 'Lord Hari Krishna'.

H(a)iri Kr(i)shna

h-5, r-200, r-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate of 786, Thus, the aggregate number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'.

thnx to REpaste same post so so :)

khansak said:

Dear Karobi_SA
I have met a lot of people who believe that 786 is used for bismillah. Today I want to erase this misconception. Therefore I wanted to share this information. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ALL. AMEEN.

786 is the numerical representation of "Bismillahirrahamaanirraheem" has no religious or Islamic significance

The numerals 786 or any other numerals in no way represent 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' or other Surahs of the noble Qur'ân and is not the Sunnah either.

Allah says in Qur'ân "Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'ân in order that you may understand" (12:2).

We are instructed to recite the Qur'an Majeed, as can be seen from the following verses: "And (it is) a Qur'ân which We have divided (into parts), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals. And We have revealed it by stages. (in 23 years)." (17:106); "....So RECITE as much of the Qur'ân as may be easy (for you),..." (73:20).

Now would one recite the Qur'an if it is reduced to numbers? As an example, we shall reduce the Surah Fatihah to numerical figures for the benefit of the reader :

Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem     -     ; -     786
Al-humdolillaahir rubbuaalamin     -    ;  -     632
Ar-Rahmaan-ur-Raheem     - &nb sp;   -     - & nbsp;   618
Malikay yawm-midhdeen     -  &nbs p;  -     -  &n bsp;  242
Eeyya ka Na' bo-du Wa eeyya ka nastha'een     836
Ah'daynas-sira thalmustaqeem………………….and in NO WAY sacred. It is a conspiracy against the Holy Book of Allah.

This old game of numbers was practiced by the ancient Egyptians, as did many other civilizations. Islam came to ELIMINATE ALL such superstitions, mysteries and numerological mumbo-jumbo. However, Muslims are still enslaved to the number game, and think that 786 represents BISMILLAAHIR RAHMAANIR RAHEEM.

Even Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in his letters to different heads of states and governments, used the holy words at the top. Therefore, whosoever uses 786 with the intention to obtain Allah's blessings, is a misguided person and any attempt to justify it, is ignorance.

More astonishing is that fact that '786' is an aggregation of the numbers of Hindu 'Lord Hari Krishna'.

H(a)iri Kr(i)shna

h-5, r-200, r-10, k-20, r-200, sh-300, n-50, a-1 = Aggregate of 786, Thus, the aggregate number of these letters (Hari Krishna) equals 786. This is also the case of 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. Therefore, it is necessary to avoid using this number to avoid the danger of being indulging in infidelity.
Islam's foundation is laid on the belief in Tawheed (oneness of God). If we associate anyone with Allah's exalted names orally or practically, we would be committing infidelity which is an unpardonable sin.

The Qur'ân warns us, one who finds a rival against Allah, Allah will never allow him to enter paradise, and his abode is the hell.

The letters by the Prophet (pbuh) to non-Muslim Kings and chiefs bear the holy words 'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem'. This was also the case of his noble companions. Did the Prophet (pbuh) and his companions respect the Holy Words less than we do?

Was the verse, 'Today I completed your religion for you', revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) or to the so called scholars of our age who are all bent to CHANGE the Divine principles.

Now, when it became known that '786' is written in place of Hindu, 'Lord Krishna', and has no significance in the Holy Qur'ân and Sunnah, it is obviously an innovation and goes against the Divine doctrine of 'Obey Allah and His Prophet'

Similarly, some Muslims replace Allah's name by the number '66' and the Prophet's name by '92'. But if one ask, the number '420' is used against somebody's name and he is called '420'. Can he bear such an insult?
Calling someone by a nick name is also a sin.

Allah Ta'ala says, 'Don't call one another by nick names'.

If Allah prohibits the use of nicknames for fellow human beings, how can He allow the use of such insulting replacement number for Himself and His Prophet (pbuh).

'Bismillaah al-Rahmaan al-Raheem' great significance in the Qur'ân and Muslims are ordered to begin any work but in the names Allah, not in the number of '786' or any other substitution.

A simple formulae to understand this is :- if G+O+D= x , then D+O+G is also = x , can anyone agree with such deceptions of satan.

May ALLAH guide us. AMEEN!

Hmmm... Maybe You Are Right

SALL said:

hmmm,,,,
not sure abt yeh info kitni sach hai ya nahi
but seeeee,,, for me 786 is like a sign or a symbol

using 786 doesnt mean that before doing anything u ll say 786 instead of "Bismillah"
but it s like cross is symbol of Christianism,,, Crescent is used as a symbol for Islam,,, same with 786 it s like a symbol... matlab k if u write it on a paper to be-adbi ka darr bhi itna nahi rehta (hmm i may b wrong)

lemme give a little example,,, my e mail add is
- - - - - 786@.....
me koi aur numbers bhi use kar sakti thi, as my date or yr of birth,, or any other important date,, but 786 use karna mujhe behtar laga,, coz id prefer to b recognised as a muslim... ab apne e mail add mei i cant use pooora "Bismillah"



khair,,, jahan tak 786 ka taluk hai to it s simple,, mera khyal use karna galt nahi hai,, baki Allah miyan knows better

Hmmm... Agree With YOu Sall...
Because Main Nay Kabhi Khaton Main Bismillah Nahi Likha ( aj Kal To e-mails Hain Na) Kion.Kay Itni Dur Send Karnay Hotay hain And Bismillah Likh Dain To Be-hurmati Ho Sakti Hay Na,,, Thats Y I Use 786,,, And Note Books Main Bi Coz Off Same Reason Na... Baki Niyat To ALLAH TALAH ko Malom Hai Na. Chalo Dil Se To 786 USI Ke Naam Se Start Karnay Ki Khatir Likha Na.
May ALLAH forgive Us And Show The Right Way, Amen!

as far i know abt dis is dat beismillahirehmanirahem


not bis........ coz 'be' means Allah k nam se ....
so b care full

SALL said:

hmmm,,,,
not sure abt yeh info kitni sach hai ya nahi
but seeeee,,, for me 786 is like a sign or a symbol

using 786 doesnt mean that before doing anything u ll say 786 instead of "Bismillah"
but it s like cross is symbol of Christianism,,, Crescent is used as a symbol for Islam,,, same with 786 it s like a symbol... matlab k if u write it on a paper to be-adbi ka darr bhi itna nahi rehta (hmm i may b wrong)

lemme give a little example,,, my e mail add is
- - - - - 786@.....
me koi aur numbers bhi use kar sakti thi, as my date or yr of birth,, or any other important date,, but 786 use karna mujhe behtar laga,, coz id prefer to b recognised as a muslim... ab apne e mail add mei i cant use pooora "Bismillah"

jahan tak "kali mata" ka taluk hai to,,,, i dont realy believe this

hmmm... SALL wonderful !

1- "Kali Mata" kay baray main tu believe nahi, how can you believe that 786 is a real representation for Bismillah.

2- 786 is a SYMBOL for Bismillah, well, then why not for "Lord Hari Karishna", agar aap ko koi email ..786@.. parh kar Muslim samajh sakta hai tu kia Hari Karishna ka follower nahi samajh sakta?

3- Again SYMBOL, hmmm... if your name counts to 420 like Bismillah counts to 786, can I and everyone else call you 420. After all, it will be your symbol.

4- Agar papers etc par Bismillah poori likhnay say be adbi ho sakti hai, tu poora QURAN bhi tu papers par hi likha hai, tu QURAN poora hi in counting letters main convert kar dena chahiye, kia khyal hai?

I will post a little more about that, just wait.

aap ne meri poooori posts dehan se parhi hein ??
i guess NO

jahan tak meri baat hai to i never WRITE 786 anywhere,, balke Bismillah bhi nahi likhti,, sirf zuban se ya dil mei kehti hu
786 ko istemal na karne pe mujhe koi eitraz nahi hai,,, only thing is,, jo reason diye ja rahe hein woh mujhe samajh nahi aa rahe
agar 786 likhna galt hai to,,, itna kehna kafi hai k ISSE USE NA KIYA JAE.
that s it..............................
iss ka matlab yeh,, aur wohhh,, aisi stories banana fazoool hai..

ZEESHANAHMED said:

4- Agar papers etc par Bismillah poori likhnay say be adbi ho sakti hai, tu poora QURAN bhi tu papers par hi likha hai, tu QURAN poora hi in counting letters main convert kar dena chahiye, kia khyal hai?

nihayat fazooool baat,,,,,
just tell me log 786 kahan likhte hein ?????
Quran pak ko harr koi sambhal k kissi mehfooz jaga pe rakhta hai,,, this is not the case with letters or other things



THE END................. ME OUT !!

khansak said:

from where I got this info, if u go thru again u will find it. there are quaranic references and it is a matter of commen sence.

and

if Yaf16 posted this info before, well i did not see that, may be before my joining to the JB.

its not from any site.../?butt how did you knew that??

shahrukh khan said:

khansak said:

from where I got this info, if u go thru again u will find it. there are quaranic references and it is a matter of commen sence.

and

if Yaf16 posted this info before, well i did not see that, may be before my joining to the JB.

its not from any site.../?butt how did you knew that??

buhat si sites par hai, you can search for them, kuch 786 ko use karna bilkul ghalat kehtay hain aur kuch ghalat tu nahi kehtay par Bismillah recommend kartay hain.

our teacher of islamiyat in pak..didnt even told that...

Too many people are accustomed to using 786 instead of Bismillah, so mostly this goes unnoticed.

exactly..

good information btw..

hey what about valentines day?

can't u see? many of us use to celebrate it..
why?

valentine's day ka naam suntay hi sab chup ho gae

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