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We have had long discussions on valentine day and ideas of gifts been flying around the forum for weeks.

None mentioned a word about our new year
A landmark of revolution that began with the hijah of the prophet to establish the state for islam and Muslims from where they'ld flourish forever.

We offered happy notes to Christians on Christmas and Gregorian new year which most don't realize it is based on shirk.

Whole world knows when Yom Kipor is or when chinese new year occurs and on and on...

If we don't care, do we think others will care for Islam and what it teaches
Posted 15 Feb 2005

Freddy says
who cares man!
we even don't know it's the beginning of new islamic year including me...........too bad.

Happy New Year to All!
Posted 15 Feb 2005

shaista says
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!!!!
(do want to mention that we do know that it's islamic new year, is se pehle topic start hua hai is baare main)

but if anyone has some information about karbala plz place it here....

Posted 15 Feb 2005

Guest_005 says
HAPPY NEW YEAR>..


Posted 15 Feb 2005

shaista says
thanks king!!!!

Posted 15 Feb 2005

Ashii says
tsk tskkk..
buri baat SD

just check SERIOUS corner,, thre s a new yr topic with 'few' comments... well,, Vday k topics yahan zyada hein but stilll hum bhoole to nahi




HAPPY NEW YR TO ALLLLL
Posted 15 Feb 2005

Smooth_daddy said:

We have had long discussions on valentine day and ideas of gifts been flying around the forum for weeks.

None mentioned a word about our new year
A landmark of revolution that began with the hijah of the prophet to establish the state for islam and Muslims from where they'ld flourish forever.

We offered happy notes to Christians on Christmas and Gregorian new year which most don't realize it is based on shirk.

Whole world knows when Yom Kipor is or when chinese new year occurs and on and on...

If we don't care, do we think others will care for Islam and what it teaches



i did,,,check sentiments....check serious corner,,,
Posted 15 Feb 2005

lolz...sirf fos ko dekh kar keh diya
Posted 15 Feb 2005

friend_16 says
koi baat nahi .. insaan say he ghalti hoti hai .. unhoon nay deekha kay FOS main nahi hai tu post ker dia..

waisay mods r admins agar 2 3 din kay liay is topic ko uper Imporatnt topics main daal daitay tu kia ho jata ?? waisay tu new yr ka topic kitnee dair raha tha aur hamara muslims ka jaab new yr hai .. kisi ko khayal he nahi ..
Posted 15 Feb 2005

shahrukh khan said:

lolz...sirf fos ko dekh kar keh diya



actually hoped to see it in religion forum and fos. I didn't even know serious section already started.
Posted 15 Feb 2005

Badal says
shaista said:

thanks king!!!!



shaista ki masoomiyat tu dekhiaye karbala par post karnay ko kaha tha par King ne post kar dya just Muharram and 10th Muharram par, magar phir phir bhi thanks keh rahi hain , see

shaista said:

but if anyone has some information about karbala plz place it here....



King ki posts main tu karbala ka kaheen zikar hi nahi , aur hota bhi kaisay.

Posted 16 Feb 2005

Smooth_daddy said:

shahrukh khan said:

lolz...sirf fos ko dekh kar keh diya



actually hoped to see it in religion forum and fos. I didn't even know serious section already started.


HAAN TU GAUR SE DEKHO...SIRF FOS KO NA DEKHO...I HAD STARTED IN SENTIMENTS,F16 IN SERIOUS TALK..
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Happy New Year Everyboday late but only 5 Days
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Badal says
Happy new year to every Muslim.

shahrukh khan said:

Smooth_daddy said:

shahrukh khan said:

lolz...sirf fos ko dekh kar keh diya



actually hoped to see it in religion forum and fos. I didn't even know serious section already started.


HAAN TU GAUR SE DEKHO...SIRF FOS KO NA DEKHO...I HAD STARTED IN SENTIMENTS,F16 IN SERIOUS TALK..


TRUE FAN OF SRK, iss main naraz honay kia baat hai agar unhoon nay nahi dekha jo aap aisay bol rahay hain? and by the way, Sentiments main aisa konsa topic hai jo aap nay start kia hai? name it please, haan friend_16 nay zaroor start kya hai "~New yr of Muslims..~" serious corner main.
Posted 16 Feb 2005

happy new year...check 1st and 2nd page
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Smooth_daddy said:

We have had long discussions on valentine day and ideas of gifts been flying around the forum for weeks.

None mentioned a word about our new year
A landmark of revolution that began with the hijah of the prophet to establish the state for islam and Muslims from where they'ld flourish forever.

We offered happy notes to Christians on Christmas and Gregorian new year which most don't realize it is based on shirk.

Whole world knows when Yom Kipor is or when chinese new year occurs and on and on...

If we don't care, do we think others will care for Islam and what it teaches



Happy New Year
Posted 16 Feb 2005

KJB
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Blue Oasis says
Okay peeps in actual fact muslims don't wish eachother "Happy Islamic New Year!" beacuse the year starts out with tragedy. Anyone looking for information regarding this can visit this very creditable website.

http://www.answering-ansar.org/
or
http://www.answering-ansar.org/index.php

Posted 16 Feb 2005

Badal says
Jia_ka_chand said:

Okay peeps in actual fact muslims don't wish eachother "Happy Islamic New Year!" beacuse the year starts out with tragedy. Anyone looking for information regarding this can visit this very creditable website.

http://www.answering-ansar.org/
or
http://www.answering-ansar.org/index.php



yeh tu aap nay khalis SHI'AH firke ki baat ki hai aur yeh website bhi unhi ki hai, phir tu aap yeh bhi kahain gi kay sari dunya mourn karna shuru kar de unki tarah
sirf Muharram hi main nahi, doorsay maheenoon main bhi buhat log shaheed huay hain even on EID days, tu kia EID manana bhi chor dain?
aur hamaray liye tu sab say bari shakhsiyat humaray NABI hain, then aur four KHULAFA jab unkay liye itni feelings nahi tu kisi aur kayliye kyun?
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Ashii says
mourn karna galt hai
par iss baat pe hansna bhi to nahi chaiye

aur yeh SHIA kya hota hai ?????
i know a lot of other firke k muslims jo 10 din ka sog manate hein, new kapre nahi pehente,, shadiyan wagera nahi karte
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Badal says
SALL said:

mourn karna galt hai
par iss baat pe hansna bhi to nahi chaiye

aur yeh SHIA kya hota hai ?????
i know a lot of other firke k muslims jo 10 din ka sog manate hein, new kapre nahi pehente,, shadiyan wagera nahi karte



arey hans kon raha hai main tu unki reasoning par hans raha hoon, aur jo doosray log kartay hain un par bhi Ahl e Tashi ka asar hai buhat ziada.
ok answer me agar Hazrat Hussain ki shahadat ki waja say hum poora maheena sog main guzar saktay hain tu kia yeh haq pehlay humaray Nabi, unkay pyaaray dost aur Ambia kay baad sab say afzal Abu Bakkar Sidique aur phir Umar, Usman aur Ali (R.A.) ka nahi banta hai kay hum unki wafat walay months main bhi sog manaain? bulkay unka haq tu pehlay hai. yeh tu khair tankeedi batain hain asal waja tu hai kay humaray Nabi nay kisi ki death par 3 din say ziada sog mananay ki ijazat di hi nahi.
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Ashii says
hmmm,, historical facts dekhe ja'ain to sog sirf Shahadat ka nahi hai,,, sog hai uss massacre ka,,
lekin uss se bhi zyada sog hai apni bad-kismati aur kam-himmati ka

par khair,,, jo bhi hai galt hai,, galti ki maafi mangne se pehle uss ki talafi ki jati hai
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Badal says
SALL said:

hmmm,, historical facts dekhe ja'ain to sog sirf Shahadat ka nahi hai,,, sog hai uss massacre ka,,
lekin uss se bhi zyada sog hai apni bad-kismati aur kam-himmati ka

par khair,,, jo bhi hai galt hai,, galti ki maafi mangne se pehle uss ki talafi ki jati hai
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...



mujhay iss massacre ki samajh nahi aati hai, aik taraf tu kehtay hain kay Hazrat Hussain nay Deen ki sarbulandi kay liye apni jaan de di aur doori taraf sog manatay hain kay kyun de di. Kia ghalat kaam kar dya tha unhoon nay, shadat ki tu har moumin ki tamanna hoti hai aur agar mil gae hai tu rotay hain. waisay you should note it Hazrat Usman ki shahadat bhi kisi aik massacre hi tha.
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Blue Oasis says
I gave the link to that website and not one which had just information on Shias/Karbala/Maharram etc because that site deals with the questions you have asked ZEESHANAHMED, e.g. why mourn?

1 billion PEOPLE (not Shias and not just MUSLIMS) each year mourn on the 10th of Muharram. That is more than any amount of people who mourn for the other great tragedies in history (WW1/WW2 etc)

Every muslim regardless of what 'semi-label' of a group they have mourn on Ashura I have seen Christians break into tears on hearing the events of Karbala.

These labels my brothers and sisters, of Shia and Sunni do nothing but put divides between Muslims. And FYI both practicing Shias and Sunnis mourn during Muhharam.

I refuse to ever label myself with them! I'm a Muslim who loves the Prophet and his family and that's good enough for me.

Anyone with the love of the Prophet and his Ahlul Baiyt should commemorate the 10th of Muharram. This mourning is a purely personal devotion and shouldn't label you for anything.

By the way before anyone makes any comments on any religious group, they should check their facts and make sure what they are saying about someone is something that that group actually believes and practices.
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Blue Oasis says
ZEESHANAHMED said:

SALL said:

hmmm,, historical facts dekhe ja'ain to sog sirf Shahadat ka nahi hai,,, sog hai uss massacre ka,,
lekin uss se bhi zyada sog hai apni bad-kismati aur kam-himmati ka

par khair,,, jo bhi hai galt hai,, galti ki maafi mangne se pehle uss ki talafi ki jati hai
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...



mujhay iss massacre ki samajh nahi aati hai, aik taraf tu kehtay hain kay Hazrat Hussain nay Deen ki sarbulandi kay liye apni jaan de di aur doori taraf sog manatay hain kay kyun de di. Kia ghalat kaam kar dya tha unhoon nay, shadat ki tu har moumin ki tamanna hoti hai aur agar mil gae hai tu rotay hain. waisay you should note it Hazrat Usman ki shahadat bhi kisi aik massacre hi tha.


In later years when Syed Sajad AS (Hussain AS only surviving son) was asked what the greatest suffering was that he faced in Karbala he replied it wasn't the Shahadats, it was the treatment of the women and children afterwards on Shame-Gareeba and the events Damasscus.

The Quran teaches us about the respect for Hijab and the proper treatment of orphans. Agree? Well the orphan of Hasrat Hussain, Bibi Sakina was mistreated after her father's shahadat and the hijab of her aunts and mother were torn away by Yazid's men.

Yazid's general Shamir comanded his army to loot the camps where her and the ladies resided, mourning the loss of the sons, brothers, nephews and father. They set fire to the camps, tore away their hijabs and when Bibi Sakina refused to give Shimir the earings her father had gifted her, he tore the earings off along with her tiny earlobes and slapped her.

The mourning is for the INJUSTICE and the loss the women faced of the men of their family. More than anything the mourning is for the fact that these people sacrified so much for our Islam and not all of us make the most of our deen.
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Blue Oasis says
Me again, I forgot to mention that my last two posts are in no way indended to Offend anyone, and if any offence was taken I am sorry. I'm not here for religious debate really, but I wanted to share with you a site which tackles the problems of that debate.
Posted 16 Feb 2005

Ashii says
true jia
but islam doesnt allows mourning,,,

hmmm,, we better leave this topic here
NO MORE COMMENTS,,
we alll r muslims aur basssssssssssss
Posted 17 Feb 2005

Blue Oasis says
I agree SALL we should finish this here. There are other sites on the internat espcially made for that type of debate and JB is nice as it is.
Posted 17 Feb 2005

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