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can someone tell me Quran pak mei konsi ayat/surat mei SOOD (Interest) k baare mei likha hai ??

plzzz filhal koi detailed copy paste nahi,, only ayat and brief translation
thnx

Posted 06 Mar 2005

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agar sirf profit share kia jata hai tu phir tu sahi nahi.

money exchange illegal nahi, us say faida uthana islam main illegal hai, goverment kay liye tu obviously nahi hai.

Posted 11 Mar 2005

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kyaaaaaaaa naaaaaaaaa..
ittnnna important business hai yeh
aur koi kuch nahi janta isss k baare mei

Posted 18 Mar 2005

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aap ko kis liye rakha hua hai hum nay...

aap bata dain na search kar kay

Posted 18 Mar 2005

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agar mujhe kuch pata hota to post kar deti
asal mei mujhe jitna kuch pata chala hai it s quite confusing,, kuch din pehle mujhe KISSI ne yeh tak kaha k quran pak mei likha hai 'sood haram hai par iss se karoobar karna ja'iz hai'

im still looking for that ayat, coz zahir hai unn sahab ko to pata nahi k yeh kahan likha hai,,

asal mei stk ex ka business itna important hai k iss haram kehne se pehle 10 baar sochna parta hai,, ppl earn milions in one deal to zahir hai koi kitna bhi acha muslim ho paise ka aana kisse bura lagta hai

it all depends aap iss ko kiss nazariye se dekhein

hmm,, dhoondne dein humein,, dekhte hein

Posted 18 Mar 2005

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hmmm...
kuch mila to hai....... hai to copy paste par parh k aur samajh k paste kiya hai me ne

The stock exchange is a market place where shares are bought and sold. By buying the shares of a company, you, in fact, share in the business. Therefore, if there is nothing against Islam in the nature of the business, there is nothing wrong in being the shareholder of that business and in getting dividends on those shares.

Ideally, the market price of a share should be related to the performance of the company. But the speculators (or investors) manipulate the prices by artificially stimulating the demand and the supply of shares. Forward contracts are made and further contracts are derived (financial derivatives) on that basis. The result is that the whole market activity is based on speculation rather than being based on entrepreneurship.
Obviously, such fluctuations have a negative impact on the economy, which is usually borne by the not-so-affluent sections of the society.

""""Islam wants that the economic activity of its followers be based on entrepreneurship, hard work, creativity, moral principles and concern for others, whereas speculation is often detrimental to these values. The moral corruption that ensues from such activities as speculation far exceeds whatever material benefit they give. Therefore, it is closer to taqwa (fear of God) to avoid them. The pervading spirit in an Islamic society should be that of infaq (spending in the way of Allah). This spirit often dies in the absence of fear of God – and avarice and apathy become the deities.""""

In an Islamic state, the government has the right to enact such laws as would eliminate the inherent risks of deception and loss by which either party can suffer in such activities as speculation on the stock exchange. However, until such laws are framed, it is up to the individual Muslim to decide when his trading becomes such speculation as would be detrimental to his taqwa. A good Muslim prefers to stick to nobler values even if they afford him less material benefit. Even in the absence of specific Divine injunctions or enacted laws, he should ask his own self whether his involvement in an activity is leading him away from God and inclining him towards the violation of moral values and ethics. His life should be marked by love of God, fear of His wrath, charity and concern for others. Losing these values for material benefit is a trade that a good Muslim never likes to make. But, as already said, that is a question which each Muslim must answer for himself. The rule here is sal nafsak (ask thy heart) – it will tell the truth.

hmmm... ab aaya samajh....
iss point of view se to SE hi nahi saare k saare karooobar e zinadagi galt ho jate hein hamare

kahaaan ja'ain Allah jiii

Posted 21 Mar 2005

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hmmm

is say ye matlab tu nahi nikalta kay SE ghalat hai, bulkay profit gain karnay kay kuch taraeekay (artificially stimulating the demand and the supply of shares) ghalat hain. aur is ka talluk sood say bhi nahi banta, isay theft ya fraud keh saktay hain.

Posted 21 Mar 2005

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SALL said:
kuch din pehle mujhe KISSI ne yeh tak kaha k quran pak mei likha hai 'sood haram hai par iss se karoobar karna ja'iz hai'

"is say karoobar" nahi bulkay just "karoobar" (trade) jaiz hai, ayat ka ulta matlab letey hain log. wo ayat main ne likhi bhi thi.

Surah Al-baqarah verse no.275

"Those who devour usury will not stand except as stands one whom the Satan by his touch has driven to madness. That is because they say, "trade is like usury", but Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden usury"

note karain "Allah has permitted trade (karobar) and has forbidden usury (riba)", not trade with usury allowed.

Posted 21 Mar 2005

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Badal said:
hmmm is say ye matlab tu nahi nikalta kay SE ghalat hai, bulkay profit gain karnay kay kuch taraeekay (artificially stimulating the demand and the supply of shares) ghalat hain. aur is ka talluk sood say bhi nahi banta, isay theft ya fraud keh saktay hain.

yeh nahi kaha yar me ne
woh to samajh aa gai thi k SE haram nahi hai

doosra comment waise hi tha... gnrl

Posted 21 Mar 2005

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Badal said:
"is say karoobar" nahi bulkay just "karoobar" (trade) jaiz hai, ayat ka ulta matlab letey hain log. wo ayat main ne likhi bhi thi.

Surah Al-baqarah verse no.275

"Those who devour usury will not stand except as stands one whom the Satan by his touch has driven to madness. That is because they say, "trade is like usury", but Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden usury"

note karain "Allah has permitted trade (karobar) and has forbidden usury (riba)", not trade with usury allowed.

yep,, im sure aisi hi koi baat hogi
par kehne ka matlab tha k apne matlab se kya kya batein bana li jati hein

abhi SE se mutalik aik point of view hai yeh
there r some others jo isse ja'iz nahi samajhte,, koi sahi reliable site mile to woh bhi post karein ge

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