Pope John Paul dies

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul II has died, the Vatican has announced.

The 84-year-old Pontiff, who had headed the Roman Catholic Church for 26 years, died at 9.37 p.m (8.37 p.m. British time), a statement said on Saturday.

"The Holy Father died this evening at 21.37 in his private apartment," the statement said.

The news was immediately announced to huge crowds gathered in St Peter's Square.

John Paul will be remembered for his role in the collapse of communism in Europe and his unyielding defence of traditional Vatican doctrines as leader of the world's 1.1 billion Catholics.

Huge crowds had staged a tearful vigil in St. Peter's Square, praying for a man already being dubbed by some Catholics as "John Paul the Great".

The Pope's health had deteriorated steadily over the past decade and earlier this year took a sharp turn for the worse.

The Pontiff, once a lithe athlete and powerful speaker, was already racked by arthritis and Parkinson's Disease, his voice often reduced to a raspy whisper.

He was rushed to hospital twice in February and had to have a tracheotomy to ease serious breathing problems. But he never regained his strength from the operation and failed dramatically on two occasions to address crowds at St. Peter's Square.

On Wednesday doctors inserted a feeding tube into his stomach to try boost his energy levels. A day later he developed a urinary infection and high fever that soon precipitated heart failure, kidney problems and ultimately death.

According to pre-written Church rules, the Pontiff's mourning rites will last 9 days and his body is likely to be laid to rest in the crypt underneath St Peter's Basilica.

The conclave to elect a new Pope will start in 15 to 20 days, with almost 120 cardinals from around the world gathering in the Vatican's Sistine Chapel to choose a successor.

There is no favourite candidate to take over. Karol Wojtyla was himself regarded as an outsider when he was elevated to the papacy on October 16, 1978.

Few would have predicted then that the first non-Italian Pope in 455 years would throw off the stiff trappings of the papacy, travel the globe and leave an indelible mark on history.

In over a quarter century on the world stage, he was both a champion of the downtrodden and an often contested defender of orthodoxy within his own church.

Historians say one of the Pope's most lasting legacies will be his role in the fall of communism in Eastern Europe in 1989.

"Behold the night is over, day has dawned anew," the Pope said during a triumphant visit to Czechoslovakia in 1990.

A decade after witnessing the fall of communism, he fulfilled another of his dreams. He visited the Holy Land in March 2000, and, praying at Jerusalem's Western Wall, asked forgiveness for Catholic sins against Jews over the centuries.

But while many loved the man, his message was less popular and he was a source of deep division in his own church.

Critics constantly attacked his traditionalist stance on family issues, such as his condemnation of contraception and homosexuality, and hope the next Pope will be more liberal.

However, he has appointed more than 95 percent of the cardinals who will elect his successor, thus stacking the odds that his controversial teachings will not be tampered with.
Posted 03 Apr 2005

Ashii says
shahrukh khan said:

we can use arabic words for non muslim??


wot is so special abt arabic
do u think arabic mei galiyan wagera nahi hoti




well aap ka matlab agar "dua" se hai to... y not
Posted 05 Apr 2005

Ashii says
Bazigaar said:

c'mon guys don;t be narrow minded...a non-muslim is also a human...i am surprised how easily we say Allah maghfirit keray for a muslim who have all da bad habbits yet we have problem saying Allah maghfirit keray for a non-muslim who have been nice and kind all his life following his religion properly...

islam teaches us to spread peace, love and humanity...is this a way to spread humanity and love by saying k no i can;t pray for u...i hope u burn in hell? naah...Allah himself is forgiving and he can forgive anyone anysin...it;s up to HIM...he could forgive a non-believer for something he did or catch a muslim for some mistake he might have made...

and agar ab bhi kisi ke baat samajh mae nahi ati..then i have no more time to waste - sorry


uff,, bazu bezaaar,,
itna bezaaar na raha karo...............

i said "ive an objection abt it"
non muslim ki maghfirat ki dua nahi karte is wot i ve always been told,, or wot i read,, beshak mujhe iss baat pe aitraz hai par soche samjhe bager maan lena jitna galt hai utna hi galt soche samjhe bager jhutlana bhi hai
being "broad-minded" without understading is as silly as being "narrow-minded"

that was exactly my question,,,,,, k kyun nahi kar sakte dua,, wot is the reason
aap ne takreer to kar di par reason nahi bataya
Posted 05 Apr 2005

Ashii says
Bazigaar said:

God is all forgiving..there's nothing that he can;t forgive...cuz if we say god can;t forgive something perticular..then it;s like restricting god's abilities/powers to forgive...and god is above all restrictions...it;s simple logic


bilkul theek..

but jahan tak mujhe yaad parta hai i ve read somewhere in Quran pak abt hazrat Abrahim,,, that he prayed for his father (for his maghfirat i think)
aur unhein mana kiya gaya tha
(i dotn remember exact story and ayaat)


so there s still a confusion abt GOOD n PIOUS NON-MUSLIMS
and BAD MUSLIMS
Posted 05 Apr 2005

Ashii says
TeenTracker said:

Mr Jibran I think this is childish behaviour.We all come on such topics not only for fun but for information and experience sharing.

We are not here to humilate a departed soul.After all he was the supreme leader of Catholic Church.I got many christian friends and i saw them weaping after that. listen Mr Jibran if we are not going to respect sipritual leaders of others how we expectv others to respect others. Make sure that you have read the Surah Kafiroon. Sorry if I am being harsh


teeen dabba
hum ne pehli baar aap ko akal ki baar karte suna hai

baat spiritual leader ki bhi nahi hai
baat aik insaan ki maut ki hai,, we HAVE to respect it, chahe koi muslim ho chahe non-muslim
Posted 05 Apr 2005

the_one says
TT,SaLL,Bazigaar,MZ,all of you
Posted 05 Apr 2005

WELL there must be written abt what i said...
Posted 05 Apr 2005

mzaid says
TT stolen your show...
Posted 05 Apr 2005

God bless him.
Posted 06 Apr 2005

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

Bazigaar said:

God is all forgiving..there's nothing that he can;t forgive...cuz if we say god can;t forgive something perticular..then it;s like restricting god's abilities/powers to forgive...and god is above all restrictions...it;s simple logic


bilkul theek..

but jahan tak mujhe yaad parta hai i ve read somewhere in Quran pak abt hazrat Abrahim,,, that he prayed for his father (for his maghfirat i think)
aur unhein mana kiya gaya tha
(i dotn remember exact story and ayaat)


so there s still a confusion abt GOOD n PIOUS NON-MUSLIMS
and BAD MUSLIMS


yes u r right...hazrat ahbahim ko mana kya gya thaa...but then there r so many examples where muslims have been shows praying for non-muslims...so banda kidher ko jae? it depends on i;r own judgement..if u feel comfortable praying for a non-muslim...go ahead, if u don't...it;s up to u too
Posted 06 Apr 2005

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

uff,, bazu bezaaar,,
itna bezaaar na raha karo...............

i said "ive an objection abt it"
non muslim ki maghfirat ki dua nahi karte is wot i ve always been told,, or wot i read,, beshak mujhe iss baat pe aitraz hai par soche samjhe bager maan lena jitna galt hai utna hi galt soche samjhe bager jhutlana bhi hai
being "broad-minded" without understading is as silly as being "narrow-minded"

that was exactly my question,,,,,, k kyun nahi kar sakte dua,, wot is the reason
aap ne takreer to kar di par reason nahi bataya




i gave my reasons for praying for a non-muslim cuz that;s what i support...u asked a question why we should not pray for non-muslims...so those who support that theory...can answer that
Posted 06 Apr 2005

let me quote a incident

Hazoor (PBUH) has offered a absent namaz-e-Janazah for Nijashi Chritian Emperor of Habshah
Posted 06 Apr 2005

Ashii says
hmmmmm,,,
sahi


aa gai samajh shayad
Posted 06 Apr 2005

the_one says
so everybody is happy here now
Posted 06 Apr 2005

Bazigaar says
TeenTracker said:

let me quote a incident

Hazoor (PBUH) has offered a absent namaz-e-Janazah for Nijashi Chritian Emperor of Habshah



yes that too
Posted 07 Apr 2005

Ashii says
TeenTracker said:

let me quote a incident

Hazoor (PBUH) has offered a absent namaz-e-Janazah for Nijashi Chritian Emperor of Habshah


hey that empror converted to islam,, par chup k
correct me if im wrong.....
Posted 07 Apr 2005

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

TeenTracker said:

let me quote a incident

Hazoor (PBUH) has offered a absent namaz-e-Janazah for Nijashi Chritian Emperor of Habshah


hey that empror converted to islam,, par chup k
correct me if im wrong.....


no he didn't
Posted 09 Apr 2005

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