Bismillah it: The Halal Meat Dilemma

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I'm not one to shy away from controversial issues. In fact, I love them. What I'm about to write about is arguably the most controversial topic in the history of our Muslim community. Well what is it? It's quite simple:

Our Muslim community is divided on the meat issue as you'll see in a moment. First let's envision a scenario of myself in Burger King with an old friend.

"Wow man... the B.K. Big Fish is huge man" I said.
"Yes it's quite the catch" my friend replied.
"Arright let's get that then..." *I turn towards the cashier* "I'll have two Fish Sandwiches and-"
"Hey! Who said I wanted fish!"
"Well... we-"
"I want a Whopper! A WHOPPER!"
"But they aren't even cut properly... it's not Halal"
"It will be when I say Bismillah before I eat it."
"That makes it Halal?"
"Dude you're so dumb. Anything is Halal if you say Bismillah."

I shot him a disgusted look and proceeded to shake my head throughout the entire meal as he scarfed down the Whopper. You see, as Muslims, we are to eat meat that was cut properly (Zabiha...cut across the animal's jugular vein so it is bled properly). Most meat available in any restaurant is usually not cut across the jugular vein and thus not Halal but some people think otherwise. Some people think that if you say BISMILLAH, the meat magically becomes Zabiha and tolerable. People need to realize that magic is haram and you can't halalify a chicken once its on your plate on a bun.

Basically the logic is: anything makrooh (disliked, in this case meat that isn't cut properly) can be turned halal (lawful) if the magic words are said.

I decided to use this Bismillah logic with other things:

And next.

See the retardation?

I know, I know. Some of you are gonna start saying "BUH HAMZAH... WE CAN EAT ANY MEAT FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK!!! THAT MEANS ANYTHING BECAUSE THIS IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY!!!!"

People of the Book = Jews, Christians, Muslims. Sounds great on paper but I checked out some of the Slaughterhouses and this is what I saw:

He even said that too.

Addtionally, this whole meat issue just causes havoc anywhere. Evil and greedy corporations essentially just genetically modify innocent chickens all over the world to fill their large pockets with green.


What's worse... genetically modified chicken in a KFC bucket or Arabs in a KFC bucket?

I think people need to realize that if there is no Halal option available, it doesn't hurt to become a vegetarian for a little while. Well, it only hurts if the veggie-burger or soy-chicken you're eating is filled with sharp razor blades or flesh-eating bacteria but I think that is rare. It's only happened to me once. Anyway eating leaves can't be that harmful. If the Zabiha diet is going tough then just remember: Fish-Filet is your best friend.

I hope you learned a spine-tingling lesson in all this.

-Hamzah Moin

[[actual article: http://maniacmuslim.com/bismillah.html]]

so what's your take on the issue? i admit it, i used to eat the chicken burgers etc etc but i'm glad to say i've been haram free for the past three months :) yes and proud of it :p
Posted 01 May 2005

Bazigaar says
Badal said:


Asal main ppl "alchohol free", "non-alchoholic" jaisi terms say dhoka kha jatay hain. jabkay yeh prooved hai hai kay is main alchohol hoti hai.



mae alcohal..meaning asli wali ke baray mae he baat ker raha thaa
Posted 15 May 2005

Badal says
Bazigaar said:

mae alcohal..meaning asli wali ke baray mae he baat ker raha thaa



us kay baray main tu pehlay posts main tha na.

aur yeh darama bazi band karain

topic tu meat kay baray main tha, laikin baat drinks par shuru ho gae. is par to separate topic hona chahiye tha.

Posted 15 May 2005

Bazigaar says
lol..kya yaar..insaan sach bole bhi to kehtay hain drama bazi chalo jese apki marzi...wesay asal topic kiya thaa? goat meat better or beef?
Posted 15 May 2005

Badal says
Bazigaar said:

lol..kya yaar..insaan sach bole bhi to kehtay hain drama bazi chalo jese apki marzi...wesay asal topic kiya thaa? goat meat better or beef?



kiya ho gya hai aap ko? i think topic zabiha non-zabiha par tha.
Posted 15 May 2005

Bazigaar says
zibah na zibah ko ab rehnay do..ye batao..aj kal goat meat kitnay ka chal raha hae pak mae?
Posted 15 May 2005

Badal says
FOS main topic open kar lain, wahaan koi butcher aa kar rates post kar de ga. Relegion section ka kuch tu khyal karain
Posted 15 May 2005

Bazigaar says
o yar fiker kiyoon kertay ho...religion mae kiya price checking allowed nahi hae
Posted 15 May 2005

Badal says
Relegion main tu hai magar Relegion section main nahi hai
Posted 15 May 2005

Bazigaar says
if i want, i can actually make a connection of meat prices with this topic..per chalo abhi rehnay do   
Posted 15 May 2005

@badal

thanda ho yaar. mazaq ki baat ko mazaq hi rehne do na. mere posting me itna barra "hahaha" nazar nahi aaya kya janab ko?

aap ne kaha ke halal nahi likha alcohol ke baare me, main ne kaha ke haram bhi nahi likha. iss baat par aap itna ghussa karo to achi baat to nahi hai na.

sulah kar lo paa ji.
Posted 17 May 2005

djeedja lotta said:

@badal

thanda ho yaar. mazaq ki baat ko mazaq hi rehne do na. mere posting me itna barra "hahaha" nazar nahi aaya kya janab ko?

aap ne kaha ke halal nahi likha alcohol ke baare me, main ne kaha ke haram bhi nahi likha. iss baat par aap itna ghussa karo to achi baat to nahi hai na.

sulah kar lo paa ji.



but you shouldnt consider this section as mazakhshahrukh khan38491.8358680556
Posted 19 May 2005

moecipher says
vegetarianism is halal....
why do we eat meat in the first place?

read this website..
http://www.islamicconcern.com/moecipher38492.9558680556
Posted 20 May 2005

Bazigaar says
abhi problem solve ho gye na halal haram ke
Posted 22 May 2005

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