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Ashii

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Is Islamic Nikah naama a contract ??



if it is then howcome both parties sign it without even reading it or knowing its conditions ???
Posted 10 Mar 2006

Every one knows abt the conditions .
Both bride and groom have the liberty to define various terms and conditions of their liking and make them a part of this contract.
Marriage (nikah) is a solemn and sacred social contract between bride and groom. This contract is a strong covenant as expressed in Quran 4:21).


Mahr

The marriage-gift (Mahr) is a divine injunction. The giving of mahr to the bride by the groom is an essential part of the contract.

'And give the women (on marriage) their mahr as a (nikah) free gift" (Quran 4:4)


QAZI SAHAB BHI THREE TIMESSSSSSS POCHTAY HAIN...
Posted 10 Mar 2006

I think sall nikah namay kay coulmns ki baat kerrahi hai
akser her coulmn ko fill nahin kiya jata
Posted 10 Mar 2006

Ashii says
queeen yarrrrrr

im not asking k kya karne ki LIBERTY hai
im not even asking abt women/men rights

im jsut saying k jiss ka nikah hota hai kya woh nikah nama parhta hai
kya koi inn tamam conditions ko samajhta hai
jo conditions likhawai jati hein kya unn ko larke larki se bhi discuss kiya jata hai ya sab bare apas mei hi decision le lete hein


nice to hear abt MEHR
par kitni aurton ko shadi k foran baad mehr ki amount haath pe rakhi jati hai ??????
Posted 10 Mar 2006

akser log keh daitay hain larki ko kay maaf ker do


haan sall main bhi yahi keh rahi thi kay tum coulmns ki baat ker rahi ho
Posted 11 Mar 2006

without reading ke koi sign nahi karta..
Posted 12 Mar 2006

javad says
i think sab janty hain k kia likha gaya hai
aur shadi k waqt everything gals aur boys janty hain

shadi main kia restrictions hai sab
aur nikkah nama to at the spot banta hai aur jo printed hai wo to sabko hi pata hai na aapkay mom dad k nikkah main b same things hi hain,,,
Posted 12 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
its not a contract
i read my nikah nama all of it
Posted 15 Mar 2006

new_beau says
I think thi stopic made just for BEHAS,...Every body know what is he/she going to sign. And what will happen next...Regarding MEHR...Its there.,..But it dependes on Husband and Wife...That when itr will be payable..
Posted 15 Mar 2006

Ashii says
I started that topic for a reason

allll paki married women I know (aged between 50/25)
none of them had read their nikah naama
most of them never had their haq meher,, a vv few knew the amount before nikah
only 5 to 10% of them were asked for/told abt "conditions" baki sab ko shadi k baad conditions ka bataya gaya
i dont know abt guyz,,,,,

yahan jitne logon ne bhi answer kiya hai i guess mere aur bazu k ilawa kissi ki shadi nahi hui,, may b thats the reason k itna 'confident' ho k answer kar rahe hein


when I got married i had different views,, mere nazdeek nikah ki koi hesiyat nahi thi,,, it was just a way to tell ppl that u want to live with that person for the rest of ur life
so i didnt impose anything,, i didnt even read it

par meri soch mei aur baki logon ki soch mei zameen asmaan ka fark hai,, jo cheez mere liye fazool hai logon k liye behaad important hai
isss liye pucha tha k jiss cheez ko itni importance di jati hai uss ki asal hesiyat kya hai ??


bazu
can u define me wot a contract is ???
Posted 16 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

I started that topic for a reason

allll paki married women I know (aged between 50/25)
none of them had read their nikah naama
most of them never had their haq meher,, a vv few knew the amount before nikah
only 5 to 10% of them were asked for/told abt "conditions" baki sab ko shadi k baad conditions ka bataya gaya
i dont know abt guyz,,,,,

yahan jitne logon ne bhi answer kiya hai i guess mere aur bazu k ilawa kissi ki shadi nahi hui,, may b thats the reason k itna 'confident' ho k answer kar rahe hein


when I got married i had different views,, mere nazdeek nikah ki koi hesiyat nahi thi,,, it was just a way to tell ppl that u want to live with that person for the rest of ur life
so i didnt impose anything,, i didnt even read it

par meri soch mei aur baki logon ki soch mei zameen asmaan ka fark hai,, jo cheez mere liye fazool hai logon k liye behaad important hai
isss liye pucha tha k jiss cheez ko itni importance di jati hai uss ki asal hesiyat kya hai ??


bazu
can u define me wot a contract is ???



well, we all know how much closly we follow islam (sarcastic), so if many haven't read their nikah nama, i am not surprised, still it;s not a contract
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:



bazu
can u define me wot a contract is ???



definition of contract can be:   binding agreement between two or more persons that is enforceable by law

now u will say k husband/wife bhi to ek tarah ke arangement mae hotay hian...

well, in that case, i would ask, what is namaz? an exercise?

so basicaly u could call if a contract if u want to, but it;s not religion is a totaly different thing
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

when I got married i had different views,, mere nazdeek nikah ki koi hesiyat nahi thi,,, it was just a way to tell ppl that u want to live with that person for the rest of ur life
so i didnt impose anything,, i didnt even read it??



even before i got married or anything, i had a clear picture of nikah, it;s not only telling ppl to live with someone and dat's it..it;s alot more then that...brings responsibility to begin with...maturity comes with it too...etc etc (in most cases, offcourse their r some exceptions)
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Ashii says
Bazigaar said:

definition of contract can be:   binding agreement between two or more persons that is enforceable by law

now u will say k husband/wife bhi to ek tarah ke arangement mae hotay hian...

well, in that case, i would ask, what is namaz? an exercise?

so basicaly u could call if a contract if u want to, but it;s not religion is a totaly different thing


a contract is not necesarily something written,, or imposed by law
its when 2(or more) log kissi baat pe mutafik hon,, kuch duties, responsibilities aur rights k badle
simple

"""its not religion, its totaly a diff thing"""
samajh nahi aaya ??
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Ashii says
Bazigaar said:

even before i got married or anything, i had a clear picture of nikah, it;s not only telling ppl to live with someone and dat's it..it;s alot more then that...brings responsibility to begin with...maturity comes with it too...etc etc (in most cases, offcourse their r some exceptions)


we can have different views,, i ve changed since
ab mere liye nikah iss liye important hai kyun k yeh aik hukm hai,, no need to ask more questions
its a religious duty, like namaz,,, and i believe k agar namaz ki ruuh na ho to it is an exercise only, nothing more

u talked abt "responsibility'
to resp to mujh pe aur sall pe pehle se thi,, we promised each other to live togather forever,, isnt a promis enuff ??
and maturity,,, woh to age k saath aati hai (not in all cases, hehee)
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

Bazigaar said:

definition of contract can be:   binding agreement between two or more persons that is enforceable by law

now u will say k husband/wife bhi to ek tarah ke arangement mae hotay hian...

well, in that case, i would ask, what is namaz? an exercise?

so basicaly u could call if a contract if u want to, but it;s not religion is a totaly different thing


a contract is not necesarily something written,, or imposed by law
its when 2(or more) log kissi baat pe mutafik hon,, kuch duties, responsibilities aur rights k badle
simple

"""its not religion, its totaly a diff thing"""
samajh nahi aaya ??


agar imam ke peechay namaz parhi jae mutafiq ho ker...to would u call it a contract too? no na...esee liye anything in religion is not a contract but an order by God
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

u talked abt "responsibility'
to resp to mujh pe aur sall pe pehle se thi,, we promised each other to live togather forever,, isnt a promis enuff ??



nope promise is not good enough...if i just promise to live, but am not responsible..i'll give u my example...i used to spend money with both hands, after marriage, no one asked me, but in become more responsible where to spend and where to hold on to my emotions (for stuff i like, but don;t NEED)...in other words saving money...and also responsible in many other ways too...
Posted 18 Mar 2006

Ashii says
imaan is a contract
and u pray following this contract

if u have changed after marriage,, and became more resp then its good for u and for ur futur life
i ve changed a lot too,,, but mariage was not the reason

i know for most of ppl promis is "not good enuff"
im not one of them

Posted 20 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
well, for u maybe imaan is contract, for me it;s guidelines
Posted 20 Mar 2006

Bazigaar said:

SALL said:

Bazigaar said:

definition of
contract can be:   binding agreement between two or more persons that is
enforceable by law

now u will say k husband/wife bhi to ek tarah ke arangement mae hotay
hian...

well, in that case, i would ask, what is namaz? an exercise?

so basicaly u could call if a contract if u want to, but it;s not religion is a
totaly different thing


a contract is not necesarily something written,, or imposed by law
its when 2(or more) log kissi baat pe mutafik hon,, kuch duties,
responsibilities aur rights k badle
simple

"""its not religion, its totaly a diff thing"""
samajh nahi aaya ??


agar imam ke peechay namaz parhi jae mutafiq ho ker...to would u call it
a contract too? no na...esee liye anything in religion is not a contract but
an order by God



hmm, I would agree with this statement
Posted 21 Mar 2006

Ashii says
its a guideline till u r not engaged
once u recite kalma (dil se) it becomes a contract

hmm,, khair,, kya fark parta hai
maksad dil se maan k SAHI rehna hai
guidline samajh k ya contract samajh k




woh topic beech mei hi reh gaya
kissi ko kuch nahi kehna ??????
Posted 22 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

its a guideline till u r not engaged
once u recite kalma (dil se) it becomes a contract

hmm,, khair,, kya fark parta hai
maksad dil se maan k SAHI rehna hai
guidline samajh k ya contract samajh k




woh topic beech mei hi reh gaya
kissi ko kuch nahi kehna ??????



so meaning once we start praying behind an imam, we r in a contract too?
Posted 22 Mar 2006

Ashii says
hansne ka kya hai


i said imaan is a contract
namaz is one of its conditions

namaz Allah k liye parhi jati hai,, imaam k liye nahi
Posted 24 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

hansne ka kya hai


i said imaan is a contract
namaz is one of its conditions

namaz Allah k liye parhi jati hai,, imaam k liye nahi



if iman is a contract that means God is up there doing a business interesting...

now question is..if we believe God is all powerful, then why does he offers us these contracts? (iman/religion)? why not just force them on is...?    why go through all this contract thingie
Posted 24 Mar 2006

Ashii says
wot does contract have to do with business ?????
havent u ever heard abt moral / unwritten contracts
??????????

didnt get ur 2nd quest
if u want to ask y do we have a choice then its simple
we do beleive in 'last jugement'
if everything is imposed then there s no point of a jugement
Posted 27 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
SALL said:

wot does contract have to do with business ?????
havent u ever heard abt moral / unwritten contracts
??????????



a contract is a business..any kind of business...
could involve money, services, obedience, anything...contract
Posted 27 Mar 2006

Ashii says

not necessarily
Posted 28 Mar 2006

nikama says
bazi ko accounting mar gai o bhai marriage is a contract between two persons to live togather(HOPEFULLY)for the rest of their lives and to share the joys and sorrows that come their way.baqi mulla ka khutba,pundit k ashlok,padri ka sermon sab ghair zaroori hain.marriage us waqt se aik contract he jab insan gharon main rehta tha,her aane vaale religion ne is contract ko apne apne tor per legitimize ker dia aur bus.ager do ghair muslim mian biwi islam main convert ho jain to unhain dobara nikah parhwane ki zaroorat nahin hoti,matlab islam acknowledges their old contract.as for namaz,its not a contract but a condition,and if GOD had imposed religion on us then there would have been no need for heaven and hell.
Posted 28 Mar 2006

Bitoo says
mai b mai b
Posted 28 Mar 2006

Ashii says
pfff
thnx nikamma

par merae khyal fazool hai
Posted 28 Mar 2006

Bazigaar says
nikama said:

bazi ko accounting mar gai o bhai marriage is a contract between two persons to live togather(HOPEFULLY)for the rest of their lives and to share the joys and sorrows that come their way.baqi mulla ka khutba,pundit k ashlok,padri ka sermon sab ghair zaroori hain.marriage us waqt se aik contract he jab insan gharon main rehta tha,her aane vaale religion ne is contract ko apne apne tor per legitimize ker dia aur bus.ager do ghair muslim mian biwi islam main convert ho jain to unhain dobara nikah parhwane ki zaroorat nahin hoti,matlab islam acknowledges their old contract.as for namaz,its not a contract but a condition,and if GOD had imposed religion on us then there would have been no need for heaven and hell.



if marriage is a contract then religions r also a contract where we follow then accoring to the guidelines of the contract
Posted 28 Mar 2006

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