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i did not make the topic for the cold war...
Nb aap ne theek bataya hey... infact... i read it in a child magazine.. many years ago.. The magazine was PHOOL.. usmain detail se bataya tha ... ab mujhe itni detail to yaad nahi hey... lekin i remember k ye e baat thi..
Baazi bhai... i m sorry i m unable to post here the month and the year in which it was printed.. but whenever i find the magazine. i will post here...
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Bazigaar said:
new_beau said:
I heard that Some Muslims Were prisoners in Roman Empire. And they were promissed to release after there prison.
Roman Army Men took them in a boat to go on an Island and in the Middle of the Ocean they started Laughing and said you are fools. We brought you here to kill. And they threw muslim prisoners in Ocean.
This was April Fool
source source??? any source for these things? if not, then this story is simply bogus
baazi bhai... ye bhi to aik source e hey... aap knowledge sirf parhnay se to gain nahi kartay na... kisi se koi baat sun k bhi kuch gain kiya ja sakta hey...
if anyone can prove . this is wrong... he should come forward... and tell us the real thing..
baaqi NB ne theek kaha hey.. v r sharing our knowledge..
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Doctor Sam said:
Bazigaar said:
new_beau said:
I heard that Some Muslims Were prisoners in Roman Empire. And they were promissed to release after there prison.
Roman Army Men took them in a boat to go on an Island and in the Middle of the Ocean they started Laughing and said you are fools. We brought you here to kill. And they threw muslim prisoners in Ocean.
This was April Fool
source source??? any source for these things? if not, then this story is simply bogus
baazi bhai... ye bhi to aik source e hey... aap knowledge sirf parhnay se to gain nahi kartay na... kisi se koi baat sun k bhi kuch gain kiya ja sakta hey...
if anyone can prove . this is wrong... he should come forward... and tell us the real thing..
baaqi NB ne theek kaha hey.. v r sharing our knowledge..
well, according to my knowledge, there was a farmer who's cow suddenly started shouting april fool april fool on april 1st and so it became april fool..prove me wrong
knowledge ko mae tab bahaoon na jab mujhay source bhi to pata chalay...can' believe everything we hear...
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jee baazi bhai... aap theek keh rahay hain... v cant believe everything we hear...
but i agree with NB as i knew it before... i have read in some magazines and columns written by authentic people...and i discussed it many times with my friends...
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what was the purpose thn?
its so annoying that u wudblatanly blv something oh so horribly wrong but wont admit that there is one thing in life that wasnt meant to insult muslims or is a celebration of their masskilling.
if u cant admit that , atleast stop spreading such wrong facts n figures.
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Wait a minute, Mallak! I am confused. I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that story has no basis? people are quoting their sources - imperfect they may be - having some substance to support the story. If you want to set the records straight, bring your own sources to back your argument -that's the way to carry out an intellignet discussion.
People believe in things that are super blatantly horrible and they just don't stop there. They are propagating it with force in the name of "freedom of ...".
Genocide of Muslims in many a places through out the history is a fact non-muslims are trying to hide and wipe out from the books of history. In the past 10 years, hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed. If you want to condone the facts of mass murders of non-combatant Muslims in Spain, Palestine, Iraq and so on at the hands of crusaders, Gengizkhan and others, you have the "freedom of ...". You simply can't tell anyone to stop believing in something by the same token of "freedom of ...".
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April Fools' Day, sometimes called All Fools' Day, is one of the most light hearted days of the year. Its origins are uncertain. Some see it as a celebration related to the turn of the seasons, while others believe it stems from the adoption of a new calendar. New Year's Day Moves
Ancient cultures, including those as varied as the Romans and the Hindus, celebrated New Year's Day on or around April 1. It closely follows the vernal equinox (March 20th or March 21st.) In medieval times, much of Europe celebrated March 25, the Feast of Annunciation, as the beginning of the new year.
In 1582, Pope Gregory XIII ordered a new calendar (the Gregorian Calendar) to replace the old Julian Calendar. The new calendar called for New Year's Day to be celebrated Jan. 1. That year, France adopted the reformed calendar and shifted New Year's day to Jan. 1. According to a popular explanation, many people either refused to accept the new date, or did not learn about it, and continued to celebrate New Year's Day on April 1. Other people began to make fun of these traditionalists, sending them on "fool's errands" or trying to trick them into believing something false. Eventually, the practice spread throughout Europe. Problems With This Explanation
There are at least two difficulties with this explanation. The first is that it doesn't fully account for the spread of April Fools' Day to other European countries. The Gregorian calendar was not adopted by England until 1752, for example, but April Fools' Day was already well established there by that point. The second is that we have no direct historical evidence for this explanation, only conjecture, and that conjecture appears to have been made more recently. Constantine and Kugel
Another explanation of the origins of April Fools' Day was provided by Joseph Boskin, a professor of history at Boston University. He explained that the practice began during the reign of Constantine, when a group of court jesters and fools told the Roman emperor that they could do a better job of running the empire. Constantine, amused, allowed a jester named Kugel to be king for one day. Kugel passed an edict calling for absurdity on that day, and the custom became an annual event.
"In a way," explained Prof. Boskin, "it was a very serious day. In those times fools were really wise men. It was the role of jesters to put things in perspective with humor."
This explanation was brought to the public's attention in an Associated Press article printed by many newspapers in 1983. There was only one catch: Boskin made the whole thing up. It took a couple of weeks for the AP to realize that they'd been victims of an April Fools' joke themselves. Spring Fever
It is worth noting that many different cultures have had days of foolishness around the start of April, give or take a couple of weeks. The Romans had a festival named Hilaria on March 25, rejoicing in the resurrection of Attis. The Hindu calendar has Holi, and the Jewish calendar has Purim. Perhaps there's something about the time of year, with its turn from winter to spring, that lends itself to lighthearted celebrations. Observances Around the World
April Fools' Day is observed throughout the Western world. Practices include sending someone on a "fool's errand," looking for things that don't exist; playing pranks; and trying to get people to believe ridiculous things.
The French call April 1 Poisson d'Avril, or "April Fish." French children sometimes tape a picture of a fish on the back of their schoolmates, crying "Poisson d'Avril" when the prank is discovered.
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listen members discussion ko healthy discussion hi rehnay dain
ager aap main say kisi ko bhi doosaray ki baat ka yaqeen nahin to na kerain jis kay pass jo knowledge hai woh share ker raha hai lakin aap ko man'nay per majboor nahin kiya ja raha sab ko azadi e rai ka haq hai ager aik member say aap source maang rahay hain kay wo apnay opinion ya knowledge ko sahi peove keray to aap kay pass bhi oos ki info ko ghalat sabit kernay ka source hona chahiye.aap ko bhi haq hai kay aap apni raye dain kay aap is info say agree nahin kertay but mahole ko plz friendly rehnay dain main "sab say" keh rahi hoon. so plz discuss friendly mahole main kerain .aur ager aap aik doosaray ki baat berdasht nahin ker saktay to yahan post hi na kerain. hamaray liye sabhi members respectable hain. I think aap meri baat samajh gaye hon gay thanx for ur co-operation
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Smooth_daddy said:
Wait a minute, Mallak! I am confused. I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that story has no basis? people are quoting their sources - imperfect they may be - having some substance to support the story. If you want to set the records straight, bring your own sources to back your argument -that's the way to carry out an intellignet discussion.
People believe in things that are super blatantly horrible and they just don't stop there. They are propagating it with force in the name of "freedom of ...".
Genocide of Muslims in many a places through out the history is a fact non-muslims are trying to hide and wipe out from the books of history. In the past 10 years, hundreds of thousands of Muslims have been killed. If you want to condone the facts of mass murders of non-combatant Muslims in Spain, Palestine, Iraq and so on at the hands of crusaders, Gengizkhan and others, you have the "freedom of ...". You simply can't tell anyone to stop believing in something by the same token of "freedom of ...".
ahhh sigh look at it all mate no one has mentioned any info source. thats what i am saying.
the guy said he thinks we celebrate it cuz of some people killing nad humiliating muslims....then he says he read it somewhere.....THATS THE SOURCE? IMPERFECT?
puhlease....tahts a no brainer..thn everyone says they read it in some newpaper?
show me somehting that says the histpory is what theya re saying?
ah n btw....if ur idea of an intelligent argument is me telling them that they are right in blving some none sense....thn that wud make u a typical paksitani who is willing to blv anything as long as it makes him look miserable!!
iraq, palestine, and all the rest......if u mention those and april fools day in the same sentence.......wake up lad!
Some of the kuffaar (infidels) call this day All Fools' Day, as it is known to the English. That is because of the lies that they tell so that those who hear them might believe them and thus become a victim for those who are making fun of him.
Many of us celebrate what is known as April fool or, if it is translated literally, the "trick of April". But how much do we know of the bitter secret behind this day?
When the Muslims ruled Spain, approximately one thousand years ago, they were a force that could not be destroyed. The western Christians wished that they could wipe Islam from the face of the earth, and they succeeded to some extent.
They tried to limit the spread of Islam in Spain and to put an end to it, but they did not succeed. They tried numerous times and never succeeded.
After that, the kuffaar sent their spies to Spain to study and find out the secret of the Muslims' strength which could not be defeated. They discovered that adhering to taqwa (piety or consciousness of Allah) was the reason.
When the Christians discovered the secret of the Muslims' strength, they started to think of strategies to break this strength. On this basis they began to send wine and cigars to Spain for free.
This tactic on the part of the west produced results, and the faith of the Muslims began to weaken, especially among the young generation in Spain. The result of that was that the western Catholic Christians subdued the whole of Spain and put an end to the Muslim rule of that land which had lasted for more than eight hundred years. The last stronghold of the Muslims, in Grenada, fell on April 1st, hence they considered this to be the "trick of April."
From that year until the present, they celebrate this day and consider the Muslims to be fools. They do not regard only the army at Granada to be fools who are easily deceived, rather they apply that to the entire Muslim ummah. It is ignorant of us to join in these celebrations, and when we imitate them blindly in implementing this evil idea, this is a kind of blind imitation which confirms the foolishness of some of us in following them. Once we know the reason for this celebration, how can we celebrate our defeat?
After knowing this reality, let us make a promise to ourselves never to celebrate this day. We have to learn from the Spanish and adhere to the reality of Islam and never allow our faith to be weakened again.
I say: it does not matter what the origins of April fool are. What matters more is knowing the ruling on lying on this day, which we are sure did not exist during the first and best generations of Islam. It did not come from the Muslims, but rather from their enemies.
The things that happen on April fools' day are many. Some people have been told that their child or spouse or someone who is dear to them has died, and unable to bear this shock, they have died. Some have been told that they are being laid off, or that there has been a fire or an accident in which their family has been killed, so they suffer paralysis or heart attacks, or similar diseases.
Some people have been told about their wives, that they have been seen with other men, and this has led them to kill or divorce their wives.
These are the endless stories and incidents that we hear of, all of which are lies which are forbidden in Islam and unacceptable to common sense or honest chivalry.
We have seen how Islam forbids lying even in jest, and it forbids frightening a Muslim whether in seriousness or in jest, in words or in actions.
This is the law of Allah in which is wisdom and care for people's circumstances.
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