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term originating in ancient Greece to designate a government where the people share in directing the activities of the state, as distinct from governments controlled by a single class, select group, or autocrat.

The definition of democracy has been expanded.........

wot else u have to say/add ?¿

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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their is no concept of democracy anymore in any country of the world !!

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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rite,,
that s y i said
"The definition of democracy has been expanded........."

forget the rest of world,,,
wot does it mean to u ??

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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democracy... pata nahin kia matbal hota hai iss ka

likin jahan tak hamara chota sa demagh kaam karta hai..matlab yehi hona chahiye k loagon ki govt ho!!yani k leaders jo kuch bhi karein awam k liye karein.. apnay bank balance ko bardhanay k liye nahin

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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disagree

democracy ka matlab yeh nahi hota k sab kuch awam liye ho
balke yeh k sab kuch awam ki marzi se ho,,,
thora fark hai
coz baki sab systems mei bhi hota to sab awam liye hi hai par awam ki marzi k bager

hmmmm,,,
par kya aisa karna hi awam k liye behtar hai ????

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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well..i dunno much abt ths !!
bt i guess loagon ki merzi tou honi chahiye na

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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logon ki marzi,,,
hmmmm..

kissi jahil kaum ki marzi kya uss k bhale liye ho sakti hai ???
(i didnt name pakis)
aik chotta sa question hai yar,,, imagine aik mulk k majority log stupid hein (and believe me aise bohot se mulk hein) to kya democracy achi cheez hogi aisi jaga pe

i heard one democracy mei logon ko count kiya jata hai
kiss ki baat mei kitna wazan hai yeh nahi dekha jata
wot do u say ??

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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well.. in tht case i dnt thnk so k democracy honi chahiye

likin..is baat ki bhi koi gurantee nahin k os country ka ruler sahi decision lay raha hai

as far as wazan is concered!!!
i m not fat

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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yes sall u r right n yehi sahi hay k count kia jaey kion k kisi ki shakal par to nai likha hota k us ki bat mein kitna wazan hota hay

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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that s wot i was thining kash
par mulk ka leader choose karna aik decision hai,, jo soch samajh k li ja sakti hai
aur jo log yeh decision hi sahi na le sakein how can u trust them for the rest

muslim dear,,
count karna hi to theek nahi lag raha mujhe
coz agar bewakoofon ki tadaad zyada hai to kya hoga
democracy ?¿

Posted 24 Jan 2005

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Posted 24 Jan 2005

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democracy means majority rules - minority, to heck with it!

Meaning, governing laws are legislated by the vote of the majority. Now question is, what if majority votes to accepting haram as a norm, or a rule contradicting divine injunctions?

Sall at el, you all have valid points.
Ideally, rule of God is supreme. All man made laws should either conform with it or be derived from it.

I am not saying word of people be ignored, rather it should be measure of performance and feedback for improvement.

Posted 25 Jan 2005

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yehiii yehi yehi to,,,,,,,,,

jo log sahi galt k beech fark na rakhte hon
democracy mei kya anjaam hoga aise mulk ka

but where to find that "perfect dictateur"

Posted 25 Jan 2005

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no1 is perfect yaar !!!

koi bhi banda iss baat ki gurantee nahin day sakta k woh sahi say mulk ko rule karay ga widout any mistakes

situations changes alwzz!!!

kabhi kabhi baray say bara akalmand bhi ghlati kar deta hai choti si jis say bohat nuksaan hota hai..or kabhi baray say bara bewakoof bhi aisi akalmandi ki baat kar deta hai banda heran reh jay

Posted 25 Jan 2005

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itniii chanjida batain toon talay ooopphhooo

Posted 25 Jan 2005

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well sal u r right dat democracyis nt a perfect system to b obeyed

bt still it is far more beter dan dicataorship

coz dctshp mein aap k pas check n balance nai hota

Posted 25 Jan 2005

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Democracy is one extreme and dictatorship is another. One grants people to practise their whims and the other one gives free reins to one ruler to rule by his whims.
Islam offers a median which is the best of both worlds. Islam welcomes norms of democracy so far as human desires do not exceed the divine thrashold. For example, no matter if majority of the people want to consume interest, or gamble, it can never become a lawful practice in the state. Islamic democracy is consultation and by which a ruler is appointed who rules unchanged until either death takes over or that his rulership is not acceptable to the people who appointed him.

Posted 25 Jan 2005

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areyy nahi,,
"perfect dictateur" se galt matlab liya aap ne
im not for a dictatorship

kash guarantee to apni bhi nahi di ja sakti
par galti galti se ho aur aik baar ho to koi baat nahi
par jaan bujh k ki jae aur baar baar ho to zahir hai it s different
tabhi to islam mei ruler ki zimmedari itni hai k isse samajhne waale "gulami ka tauk" kehte hein isse

rite SD
but we always run behind these 2 extremes
hmmm dekha jae to,,,
young generation democracy k peeche
and old generation dict ka sath deti hai

that s exactly wot happend in our families
hmmm,, tabhi to i always say, our gvt reflects our own society

Posted 26 Jan 2005

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Muslims are affraid of Islamic rule themselves, becuz they fear that their sinful lifestyle will be restrained. So they go for alternatives even if they are harmful but at least they allow everything but Islam. We want and we choose lifestyles and style of governance to suit our needs, so why complain?

Posted 27 Jan 2005

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howwwwwwwwwwwwwwww silly
they r afraid of islamic rules coz of their lifestyle
and they r not afraid of the judgement day

kya na yarrrrrr,, samajh nahi aati

Posted 27 Jan 2005

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bakhair

kuch purane khialat rakhne wale log is liay democrc. k khilaf hain k hamare Prophet [swa] bi democrat naithe

halan k in bewaqoofon ko ye nai pata k wo Allah ki selection the aur ALLAH KI SELECTION KABI GALAT NAI HOTI

aur us waqt election ya kisi aur tareeqe se perfect selection nai ki ja sakti tjhi

same is de case wid khulfa e rashedin

aur wase bi agar ghaur kia jae to ham ko pata chale ga k islam feugalism k khilaf aaea tha jo k doctorine hay

Posted 27 Jan 2005

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really sall, do you think those who want to continue to oppress poor farmers, those who cheat and decieve, those who take bribes, those who like get rich at anybody's expense, those who want luxuries of life and for which they wud cheat, steal, or even kill; those who live to chase women, those who compete with others only in dunya, those whose life is but disobedience to Allah would want...
rule of Justice, rule by the book of Allah and not by whims, when rules wouldn't bend for relatives and acquaintences, which would adopt austere living, would take account of rulers and those surrounding them before taking account of commonors, would treat all equal, would be severe on crimes and crimnals

Muslim, I'm sorry, I didn't get your point.

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