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MMJA Bhaai....
mere khiaal mai bohat hi kam logoon ki aisi mentality yaa approach hoti hai....
ab success rate kya hai???
yeah tu struggle kar ke hi pata chal sakta hai...
ghalt baat nahi hai ke insaan kisi achi jaga jaa kar koshish kare!!!
its more difficult than your own homeland!!!
but i agree to your point of view!!!
to work/struggle in your own country!!!
to make it strong & better place for living!!!


waise insaan ki ek sift hi nashukraypann ki bhi hai...

ponit is k wahan manual work karnay mein kuch nahin lakin yahan katrlayngay to sharam say mar jayengay ager koi or karayga to usko bhi tang karayngay aik kam apnay mulik mein bura hai to wahan acha wahan jak sab nay sadar to nahin lag jana na mein manta hon strugle hai kuch loog achay grade nahin latay or na hi hard work ko pasend kartay hein or direct esi job chaye jo unko sab kuch dayday lakin jab yeh nahin milta to khamkha shor machatay hein.
meray cuzen nay dubai reh k aik saal without fee kam keyia hai yehi hard work pak mein kyion nahin?
mera bhai uk mein study karta hai+job karta hai+ghar k kam karta hai lakin satisfied hai lakin yehi hard work ager woh pak mein hota to kabhi na karta kyion?

Ghar ki murgi daal baraber...

bahir hasul-e-rizq-e-hilal aain ebadat yahan yehi koshish bais-e-nidamat...

Assalam O Alaikum

*Welcome Back Mr.Mmja
InshAllah enjoy your Stay...!

Yaa right
For Example
Most Afghan log Foreign Countries main rehtay hain
is liye kay Afghanistan kay halaat kae salon say buhat kharaab hain
Ab woh log unhi Countries main citizens ban chukay hain
unki families wahan hain
So woh kabhi Afghanistan main wapis aanay ya wapis Rebuilt karnay ka sochaingay bhi nahi.

*Pakistan main Aisa is Liye hain
Kyunki mainly jo students wahan ja chukay hain
ab se kuch saal pehlay
Unho nay wahan study ki,unhain woh jaga pasand aaye isi liye woh udhar hi job karna pasand kartay hain
Baat yeh bhi hain kay yahan Rehna thora difficult hain
Roz apko struggle karni parti hain
Per wahan Facilities thori ziyada hain
isi liye ziyada tar log wahan jaana pasand kartay hain.

mmja said:

aik chez mughay samgh nahin ati loog pak say khush nahin isliay woh bahir sttle hona chatay hein wahan pay koi bhi job manzor hai usk sath ghar ka kam bhi karayngay or ager koi student hai to woh study bhi karayga.
wahan sab kuch karlayngay lakin pak mein nahin wahan jak manual work karlayngay lakin pak mein nahin wahan settle hona boht hard work mangta hai jabk pak mein asani say banda set ho sakta hai phir bhi pak say kyion jana hai?

welcum back MMJA

nice to se u back on the forum lolz reason ka dimagh ki kharabi hum logon ko maza ata hai ghulam ban k apne mulk mein naak oonchi honi chhaiye chahe bahir ja k jitni marzi be-izzati ho

LOL!!.. nice topic, MMJA

Pakistan se koi bhi nahi jana chahta!.. hur koi halaat say majboor hoker jana chahta hae!.. kisi ko family ko achi education deni hae to wo pakistan chor ker jata hae... pakistan mae study kelie bhi rishwat deni perti hae.. or aise koi taraqee nahi ker pata... and wahan per kon aisa hae jo apni job se khush hae?
wahan study se koi khush nahi.. job se koi kush nahi.. wahan 100% mese bhi koi 20/30% aise log honge to khush-kismat hotey honge.. jinko apni kabiliyat se degrees milti hain.,. apni hi kabiliyat se jobs ya business hotey hain.. baaki 70/80% ki population bhooki roads per so rahi hoti hae.. fir aisa Q hota hae?

going abroad is alot better than living in pakistan!

Pak say jana...... being very honest.. aaj kisi bhi europian country ki imigration open hojai...sab paki logon k liye to...POORA PAKISTAN KHALI HOGAI.

hum log apnay mulk k sath mukhlis nahi hen.

ISHI LIYE ITNI PARESHANIA HEN. Hum khud theek hojain to yehi mulk hamry liye JANAT he.

Lekin agar mujhy b chance mily to me b nahi rukonga..
yehi fact he.

hmmm agree Javad bhai

javad said:

Pak say jana...... being very honest.. aaj kisi bhi europian country ki imigration open hojai...sab paki logon k liye to...POORA PAKISTAN KHALI HOGAI.

hum log apnay mulk k sath mukhlis nahi hen.

ISHI LIYE ITNI PARESHANIA HEN. Hum khud theek hojain to yehi mulk hamry liye JANAT he.

Lekin agar mujhy b chance mily to me b nahi rukonga..
yehi fact he.

pakistan bohot khoobsurat country hae.. magar wahan ki government bohot burri hae!

pakistan bohot piyara mulk hae, kon chorna chahta hae.. wahan key apne log.. bohot achhay haein dil key.. magar wahan to aik doosrey kay saath hi janwar wala salook hota hae bhai

javad said:

Pak say jana...... being very honest.. aaj kisi bhi europian country ki imigration open hojai...sab paki logon k liye to...POORA PAKISTAN KHALI HOGAI.

hum log apnay mulk k sath mukhlis nahi hen.

ISHI LIYE ITNI PARESHANIA HEN. Hum khud theek hojain to yehi mulk hamry liye JANAT he.

Lekin agar mujhy b chance mily to me b nahi rukonga..
yehi fact he.

Simply & Straightly Disagree!!!


abroad jana itna mushkil nahi hai....

jitna wahan survive karna mushil hai....


jo phool apni matti mai na khill sake...woh kya kisi aur jaga khile ga!!!


halaat itne buray nahi hein Javad!!!

Assalam O Alaikum

*yaa Very Right
Sab kay Points apni jaga theek hain
Yahan Asia Specially pakistan main aapko kafi struggle karni parti hain
Jabkay Europe ya America main Bhi kuch mushkilaat aati hain per Itni nahi Jitni yahan hoti hain.

To be honest,Apna Mulk Khushaal Ho tho kaun Ghairon ki ghulami pasand karta hain
Log Majborri ki wahan jatay hain...!

apk points valid hein par mein disagree hon.
uk,usa mein aik shakis jo study karta hai woh pak say boht mushkil hoti hai lakin ho jati hai part time job bhi hoti hai and thora boht ghar ka kam bhi ho jata hai lakin jab wahi shakis pak mein hota hai to na woh uth k pani peeta hai or na hi job k liay utne mehnat karta hai pak mein sabko direct masharaf lagna hota hai jabk wahan koi bhi job kar laytay hein pak mein bhi problems hein lakin mehnat say boht kuch keyia ja sakta hai yahan pay mostly logon ka dimagh hi kharab hota hai ager ap local level payy daykhay to pak mein kaye loog esay hein jo apni income fair way say icrease kar saktay hein lakin woh us pay aram ko targi daytay hein koi bhi country gerat tab tak nahin hoti jab tak wahan k loog great na ho kisi bhi chez pay tankied karna boht asan hai lakin jab wohi insaan kisi job pay lagta hai to rishwat kyion khata hai?.ager wahan rehna itna hi acha hai to wahan pay jab unk bachay baray hotay hein to unko paki rishta kyion chaye?tab wapis kyion atay hein ager pak itna hi bura hai bahir janay mein ya wahan settle honay say me ko koi problem nahin lakin jo kehtay hai pak mein yeh hai woh hai isliay hum ja rahay hein me ko un say sakhit nafrat hai.

mmja said:

apk points valid hein par mein disagree hon.
uk,usa mein aik shakis jo study karta hai woh pak say boht mushkil hoti hai lakin ho jati hai part time job bhi hoti hai and thora boht ghar ka kam bhi ho jata hai lakin jab wahi shakis pak mein hota hai to na woh uth k pani peeta hai or na hi job k liay utne mehnat karta hai pak mein sabko direct masharaf lagna hota hai jabk wahan koi bhi job kar laytay hein pak mein bhi problems hein lakin mehnat say boht kuch keyia ja sakta hai yahan pay mostly logon ka dimagh hi kharab hota hai ager ap local level payy daykhay to pak mein kaye loog esay hein jo apni income fair way say icrease kar saktay hein lakin woh us pay aram ko targi daytay hein koi bhi country gerat tab tak nahin hoti jab tak wahan k loog great na ho kisi bhi chez pay tankied karna boht asan hai lakin jab wohi insaan kisi job pay lagta hai to rishwat kyion khata hai?.ager wahan rehna itna hi acha hai to wahan pay jab unk bachay baray hotay hein to unko paki rishta kyion chaye?tab wapis kyion atay hein ager pak itna hi bura hai bahir janay mein ya wahan settle honay say me ko koi problem nahin lakin jo kehtay hai pak mein yeh hai woh hai isliay hum ja rahay hein me ko un say sakhit nafrat hai.

yaa right
*Wahan System theek hain
Wahan rishwat nahi chalti,Life style sabka aik jaisa hain.wahan aapko Dhoop main kharay ho kar Electricity ya gas bill jama nahi karwana parta
wahan aapki kabliyat chalti hain aapka paisa nahi
Yahan aik university professor ki pay 3 lakhs bhi ho phir bhi woh rishwat laingay
Wahan Agar kisi ko khuda na khwasta kuch ho jaye
Govt unki family ko support karti hain
Yahan Jeetay jagtay log aapka sab kuch cheen laitay hain
Logo ko wahan ka system pasand hain
Isi liye wahan jana prefer kartay hain
Per As you said Shaadi kay liye Pakistan main rishta dhondhtay hain
Kyunki they want a House wife Not a Bussiness partner
Wahan ki girls Asian boys kay sath guzara nahi kar paati.

unko aikhouse wife hi kyion chaye jabk islam nay to yeh nahi kaha k jo ghar mein hogi woh neek hai or jo job karaygi woh achi nahi ager ap aik modern country mein rehtay ho or apko aik educated larki chaye to apko apni soch ko thora wasee karna parayga kyion aik mard ko perfect larki chaye jabk khud uska apna koi hal na ho.

*I think yeh tho ab unki soch pe depend karta hain
Woh is liye Pakistan main rishta dhondhtay hain kyunki woh girls House wives hoti hain,jo job kay bajaye Apnay ghar main Apnay bachon ki tarbiyat karti hain
Aur I Think house wife apnay Bachon ki tarbiyat behter tareekay se kar sakti hain...!

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