Shab-e-barat

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Posted 09 Oct 2003

STANDARD says
I have never attack other muslims..man...but some truth has to mention...I am not saying others r wrong,contovertial is good for Islam in a betterment of Islam,I am against to say 'Kafir' and Kill these people,u know who call to these things?
Posted 21 Oct 2003

**NOOR** says
Bro Riza said:

My opinion on this guys, is that we have been told that there is going to be 73 sects in islam, and only one will be right, when it was asked by a companion which one, the prophet (saw) said the ones which follow my teachings.
Now from this its quite clear that if we were to only follow the teachings correctly then we are the correct ummah, right?
Now if we were to follow his teachings but also add innovations which werent practised at that time, then we are risking a chance, because that might be bad, but maybe it might be good cos we our intentions are there, i believe the people that do do things according to sufism, do it to gain more reward and they think what they are doing is logicaly right because they are doing it for Allah. But its still a chance, because we know that if we follow only the teachings of the prophet (saw) then we are doing right, we have been told this by him(saw) So why do more, when we dont know for 100% sure that it is right? I am not saying we shouldnt try to gain more reward, we should, but only in the ways we have been told by the prophet (saw). Do you guys understand what i mean?




MA SHALLAH SO TRUE BRO.....................

WISH EVERY ONE WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS , A LOT OF THINGS WE DO ARE BIDDAH WITH OUT EVEN REALISING IT   !!!
Posted 21 Oct 2003

BibiJan says
ydakh said:

I have never attack other muslims..man...but some truth has to mention...I am not saying others r wrong,contovertial is good for Islam in a betterment of Islam,I am against to say 'Kafir' and Kill these people,u know who call to these things?


I want to share the meaning of Kafir with u guys...
Kafir is an Arabic word (as we all know ) it means a non-muslim, it is not a gali.. there must be a word in all religions i.e. Hindu - non-hindu, Chirstian - non chirstian. and so on... It does not mean if you are a Kafir u r a bad guy... I know lots of Hindus and Chirstian who are very good by nature...
Posted 21 Oct 2003

STANDARD says
but bibijan,some religious people call to 'fatwa' to own followers and kill these person is a worst shape of sect..that should be condemn...
Posted 22 Oct 2003

BibiJan says
You are right... it should be condemn... i.e. Shias and Sunnis are killing each other..we dont know out of 73 sects which is correct.. as i have been telling before we should call ourself Muslims only..
Posted 22 Oct 2003

~Fragi~ says
well kafir means .... nafi karney wala......


her woh ziaqel jo Allah kee zaat nafi karta hai
woh kafir hia

chaye woh jin ho ya insaan



Posted 22 Oct 2003

BibiJan says
well some Hindus think Kafir is a gali... a non-muslim is a person does not belive in ALLAH.. so what you said is also correct
Posted 22 Oct 2003

Bro Riza says
As far as i am aware, a kafir are people who do not follow a book. eg aethiests or indians. No offence to any indians or aethiests, i'm just explaining what it actualy means.
Posted 23 Oct 2003

Ashii says
interesting
now i get what we call BID'AT butt.. hmmm act my knowledge is quite minim,,, but i ve heard that like in first half of 20th century some ppl didnt want electricity in mosques coz it was considered as BID'AT
soo..............

me so confused abt lot of things if i ask stupid questions plz dont mind, and sorry if i ever say something wrong
Posted 24 Oct 2003

NADZ18 says
ITS NOT A STUPID QUESTION
YOUVE GOT ME SO IM WAITING FOR SOEMONE ELSE TO ANSWER THE ELECTRIDCYT AND MOSQUE QUESTION
Posted 25 Oct 2003

Bro Riza says
I dont the answer to that either, but i reckon its coz some people are very extreme, i would say its cos at the time of prophet (saw) they obviously didnt have electricity. But for someone to say that we shouldnt have electricity cos at that time they didnt have it, would just be stupid, bt i wouldnt put it past some people, its these kind of people who end up leading people away from islam by making it so strict and extreme, and its not like that, Allah has gave us provisions to make things easy for us, so we should use them. This is my opinion anyway. Not saying that this is the reason they had this discussion about electricity, could have been something else.
Posted 26 Oct 2003

Cute_gal says
i agree wid ya @ bro riza
Posted 26 Oct 2003

STANDARD says
Bro Riza said:

I dont the answer to that either, but i reckon its coz some people are very extreme, i would say its cos at the time of prophet (saw) they obviously didnt have electricity. But for someone to say that we shouldnt have electricity cos at that time they didnt have it, would just be stupid, bt i wouldnt put it past some people, its these kind of people who end up leading people away from islam by making it so strict and extreme, and its not like that, Allah has gave us provisions to make things easy for us, so we should use them. This is my opinion anyway. Not saying that this is the reason they had this discussion about electricity, could have been something else.


yeah..I am 100%agree,that is my view,some extremist is doing islam to 570 A.D islam,Islam itself is a broad minded religion,we should not tell every new thing is bidah,some bidah are good ...some r wrong.
Posted 27 Oct 2003

Cute_gal says

we should not tell every new thing is bidah,some bidah are good ...some r wrong.

bidah is wrong no matter wat.....& ofcourse we can't say dat new things r bidah....
Posted 27 Oct 2003

STANDARD says
no bidah has two types described,which r good,or other r wrong..u can study in bidah books in detail..
Posted 29 Oct 2003

~Fragi~ says
BIDAH CANT B GOOD OR BAD


Bidah iz Bidah
Posted 29 Oct 2003

Ashii says
okkkie...
thnx bro riza

well kiddo if u ve any other explanation then me waiting
(no offense)
Posted 29 Oct 2003

~Fragi~ says
ok i ll post soon about bidah
Posted 29 Oct 2003

Cute_gal says
i posted abt Bidah already!!
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