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NFAKFan didnt mean to acuse any one its just that this is the first time in my life that this this is an issue to talk about most of us dont see the khans as muslims hence this would never ever be a topic i was just amazed that this could be some thing that matters to ppl
well i think i was gorssly misunderstood, no where did i imply that salman is not a muslim my clarification to that is it is said by muslims that the other person has to convert to islam if they want to marry muslim other wise the marrage is void now "in that case since helen is still a christian hence acording to ur understanding its void" and when i said about salman visiting mahim churches i didnt mean he is not a muslim he could have gone there for his step mom feelings there are many muslims i know who go to churches and have never been to a mosque but still proud muslims but i guess that a special breed here in bombay, during christmas sing in the gospel band. all i was saying this assumption that ppl have to be muslims to marry each other in this case is not aplicable and hence in ur eyes its wrong or if i put its crassly unislamic and i agree with joan of arc this is actually not important we have far more pressing issues to adress but since i though there was some misinformation i though i should clarifie it.
well i have never met pakis or talked but till now u seem pretty ok so peace out and hopefully our cricket team will come back alive just kidding so peace love & empathy
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sushmita sen is a bengali she is hindu bengal in india not bangladesh Salman khan mum i heard is hindu but im not sure cos her name is salma which is a muslim name unless she is a convert but he himself is muslim cos you cant have to religions. Shaihd kapur said in an interview he doesnt consider himself to be from any religion he just believes in god and pankaj kapur is his real dad but is divorced from his muslim mum.
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ps helen is not salman mum that is his step mum salim has two wives and diya mirza will i dont know what religion she is but i know that mirza is her real dad and he is from germany originally indian though
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acording to this even salman khan is not a full muslim coz his father is muslim and mother helen(still a christian)and ppl have seen salman a few times in the mahim church in bombay,there are a numorous examples famous ppl,rich business men, normal ppl like us with interfaith marages where no one converts is there any such freedon in pakistan i mean interfaith marraiges or its a taboo again these librel values are in cities not in the other parts of india hope it was informative
listen man you dont become something just cos you been born in a family that follows that religion its wat you believe and all sallu brothers say they are muslim and so has he in an interveiw whether his mum is hindu or christian you cant have 2 or 3 religions
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ps some1 tell me wat is a parsi cos as far as i know that actress in ishq vishk on this indain site their was some gossip about her and it said her parents neame and both of em had muslim names oh yea neha dhupia is a muslim her name use to be shaban but she changed it just like mahim and by the way mahima is a hindu they only changed names not religions
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and bombay wateva you must come from a modern family cos hindus in the uk i know arent allowed to get married to muslims at all they will get killed by their own parents if they eva did especially girls but i suppose some pakis are the same its all about culture at the end of the day some paki dont care either about religion
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NFAKFan didnt mean to acuse any one its just that this is the first time in my life that this this is an issue to talk about most of us dont see the khans as muslims hence this would never ever be a topic i was just amazed that this could be some thing that matters to ppl
well i think i was gorssly misunderstood, no where did i imply that salman is not a muslim my clarification to that is it is said by muslims that the other person has to convert to islam if they want to marry muslim other wise the marrage is void now "in that case since helen is still a christian hence acording to ur understanding its void" and when i said about salman visiting mahim churches i didnt mean he is not a muslim he could have gone there for his step mom feelings there are many muslims i know who go to churches and have never been to a mosque but still proud muslims but i guess that a special breed here in bombay, during christmas sing in the gospel band. all i was saying this assumption that ppl have to be muslims to marry each other in this case is not aplicable and hence in ur eyes its wrong or if i put its crassly unislamic and i agree with joan of arc this is actually not important we have far more pressing issues to adress but since i though there was some misinformation i though i should clarifie it.
well i have never met pakis or talked but till now u seem pretty ok so peace out and hopefully our cricket team will come back alive just kidding so peace love & empathy
not all muslims believe taht both couple have to be muslims cos actually i read in an islamic book that if a man marrys christian or jewish women she odesnt have to convert cos they are a matter of 1 or 2 steps behind islam. i mean you yourself is gettin married to a muslim girl and you still class her as a muslim dont you
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well miss attitude no disrespect to u but i dont want it to get out of hand. in uk it must be that way i am not denying it infact most parts of india inter faith marrages ar not permited but i specified this situation is in bombay city thats it. well no body cares ppl here hindus and muslims worship 2 to 3 gods in fact i have a photo of my hindu gods, jesus and now coz of my wife to be has given me a a photo of the kabba to keep with the rest her car has a statue of ganesha(which u call the elephant god)she believes in saibaba(a hindu saint) that dosent make her an less muslim the fact of the matter is that thankfully apart from the fanatics there is also a breed that dont care but that dosent make them less or more religious well joan of are i agree so i am not gonna reply to argressive posts peace out
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im not tryin to cause trouble with you but didnt that mosque got demolished in bombay or was it another city and besides wat about the poor part of bombay were hindu and muslim live seperatly and the muslim part got attaked few months ago and it was breaking news on zee tv well im not sayin all of bombay is like this cos its not but bombay is a big city and its not all braodminded in things like this and yeah their is freedom of religion in pak too. cos none can force to make you believe in something you dont.
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as for parsis(zoristrian) again this is a very touchy issue so just see it as facts and not propaganda if u want u can verify. the history goes that this religion is one of the oldest religion of Persia (hence they have Muslim names) so when islam was expanding They weren’t very nice to the parsis (putting as mildly as possible) So parsis fled Persia and most came to India to gujrat thats why most parsis speak gujrati some went to other places. i am sure i am gonna get som ereplys for this but pls very fye this and then answere
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And miss attitude Neha duphia is sikh not muslim http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/1744/titleholders.htm l and shenaz is very much a parsi or as we would call them bawi she said it on mtv that she was a (bawi) hence parsi
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i cant say anyhing about this that is cos i dont really know what a parsis is but my mosque teacher is from gujurat and he was on about them but i wasnt payin attention i wish i was now so wat do they believe in
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I agree and the mosque was demolished in ayodhya (up) Hell if it helps I am sorry not that I support it. But then didnt ur extremists in pak and Bangladesh destroy Hindu temples so I don’t think any one of us has the right to take a moral stand All I am saying is in Bombay it’s a lot better Ull have to see there are sections of society most of the ppl in Bombay They Want to know where they are gonna get their next meal a few ppl do this stuff and the we suffer like ur terrorist give a bad name to islam doesn’t mean islam is bad Out extremist give bad name to Hinduism doesn’t mean it’s a bad religion Sadly some how I feel this is gonna be another one of those inane hindu muslim discussions
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sush----bengali shehnaaz treasurywaala---- parsi neha dhupia----sikha( incidentally the chick is from my school in new delhi) i love the ignorant argument raised by cute esha. comparing the worlds largest secular democracy against a small theocratic state whose basis of formulation was religion. we love india and ofcourse there are elements that exploit religon and that is true for both hindus and muslims but above a certain threhold it doesnt affect anybodies lives. muslims are free in india and love it here cause we have that u dont have in pakistan and that is freedom . i mean everything is dictated by religon in ur country where more muslims are killed by muslims than they are in india by hindus.i mean just yesterday a 100 odd were killed . its just crazy there .anybody can come with a weapon and shoot indiscriminately. the truth is that even with all its diversity india is so easygoing but pakistan being an islamic state muslims are killing muslims . the mohajirs , sunni shia . whats wrong with ur country. india rocks and i m proud to be a part of this huge melting pot of civilization and thankful to my granparents for not migrating to pakistan. zeeyad38050.5223842593
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and yes it is india where we have muslim prez , muslim cricket captain , muslim stars and virtually in every sphere of life while in pakistan is purely islamic country . this is why india rocks and pakistan sucks. ofcourse there are a few people in every religon on every side but noboody gives a rat as to them except for unedducated and poor people from all religons who are conned . religon cannot be the basis of any country . u r just obsessed by it and it consumes while muslims in india are not like that. i dont want a government to dictate me on moralities or what is prmissible in my religon or not like they do it in ur country . so get real trust me that i wont leave india for any place in the world . we would be a developed nation in 202o while pakistan would be still burning in ethnic and sectarian strife.
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yeah yeah develeped nation dreamon first it was 2010 know 2020. Firstly bombayarya i only thought neh was muslim cos wen she was makin fiza she siad it was easy to play her role cos She comes from a muslim background. Secondly zeeyad yeah maybe Indian muslims Do have have good jobs But that’s just the rich not the poor yeah and about pak yes we do have trouble but were not sayin it’s the best and we don’t unlike you guyz are sayin Overall it is a fact that muslims are treated betta in pak Cos I have a dost she is from India and she told me that she hates it and prefers uk cos that so called Place of your were she originated from some1 told her she doesn’t belong in new dehli she shud go to pak Just cos she had a argument with some1 and atleast noone can say this to any1 in pak
Thirdly about hindu temples I don’t know about any that do exist in pak But there are no Hindus anymore so wats the point of keeping them wen no one is gonna visit them they got destroyed ages ago and the world is suppose to be more modern now but this kinda stuff still does happen in India. Worship place getting destroyed. Fourthly there is a minority of sikh community in pak and their gudwaras do exist in pak today they aint been destroyed Cos it was on the news that some sikhs want to come from indi to pak to see them holy places You neva hear about us fightin with them unlike you guyz you have had civil wars with all religions YEAH WE DO FIGHT WITH SHIA BUT THEIR BES ABIT OF TROBLE EVERYWERE EXCEPT INDIA WERE THERE IS TONNES OF TROUBLE
YEAH WE DO FIGHT WITH SHIA BUT THEIR BES ABIT OF TROBLE EVERYWERE EXCEPT INDIA WERE THERE IS TONNES OF TROUBLE
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Just one more thing about this freedom you have. Well we have a country that follows Islamic laws. But that’s cos the majority of us want this law. Even we have a freedom of religion in our country. That’s why their ar sunni shia Christian and sikh in our country who live peacefully yeah some times abit of trouble especially with shia but tha happens everywhere. About mix religion marriages some parents in pak would except them too like in India. this doesnt mean their is more freedom cos it depends on the parents their might be some parent in india that are stricker and wont excet it at all.
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thats ms attitude at her delusionall best. if there s bit of trouble in ur country and a lot in ours why is india the # 2 destination for tourism in the world, while nobody wants to visit pakistan cause they fear they might get killed. look what happened to daniel pearl , the french engineers, nobody wants to invest in pakistan while indian foriegn reserves are a 200billion. look what we did in IT . poverty reduced from 36% to 21 while in pakistan it increased and is close to 38 % . clue urself in ms attitude. women have absolutely no freedoom in ur country and live under hudood and karokiri laws. interfaith marriges in ur country hahahah they would kill their daughters. look what u did to poor mohajirs who did migrate in 1947. there s a huge difference between ur society and ours. i am a muslim and ofcourse i get into religious arguments but no hindu can ridicule my faith infront of me like i cant belittle theirs. i dont understand what u do in pakistan when u r banned from frolicking or even spending lavishly on marriages and parties . or where ur artists are treated and paid shabbily . no wonder they all come defecting to india. get real .
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and talkin about freedom and u givin me the speal about u following islamic laws .... well good for u livin under the dictates of one army general after the other . and bein so stringent that one cant even breathe ..forget havin fun . i wonder what u guys do in the evenings or weekends since there are no night clubs ir discos or other froliciking places and opposite sexes are not allowed to mingle and u cant even drink cause the general says so . read ur own newspapers and discover how deprived this whole scenario is . about the hindu muslim thing ... it sure comes with diversity ..its part of the package .. its none in pakistan cause urs is such a singular society that its not even fun seein the same kinda people everywhere while india is pluralistic . its all about integration , but the kinds who will wear their saffron robes or their islamic caps would never get out of that mould and would continue to fight and bicker . check the uno census . more people are killed in pakistan than in india even when its 8 times bigger than u . why are there travel alerts to ur country . why no company wants to invest there ..tourists dont wanna go there. i m not sayin ur country is bad but its very constrained, restrictive and troubled for sure.
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listen i aint gonna bother argueing bak with you cos bottom line is pak is betta than india and now its not the 2nd best tourism place in the world yes it does have more tourist than pak but that cos we dont influence on tourism that much as you guyz do. We dont care f pervez is dictator cos he is one of the bestest govewrnmetn we have eva had and he has also boosted outr businesses. And everyone know their is alot more violence iin india than pak its not our country where they show on bbc news big civil wars either with muslims or sikh in 1984 they dont make films like FIZA fornothing thats the only film that show real india. PS its not our army that rapes girls in kashmir who they have shown on the sky news
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well miss attitude you seem to be talking about pakistan and thier people and u do not know how many hindus live in pakistan that just shows how ignorant u are about ur own country you shold probably comment about a religion or a place when u know comething about it hindus are still living in pakistan here is some info http://www.hvk.org/articles/0702/138.html i mean u live in uk and u beleive what u hear man u definately get som seriously wrong info
hey zeeyad forget it dude its pointless cant believe it i am giving u the same advice joan of ark gave me. i dont blame ignorant ppl my feeling is they have always been taught that u and me cannot live to gether and all this just to justify the partition. imagine the shock they get when they see u and me living happyly so peace out bro and miss atitude no hard feeling just research a lil more before u post coz u seem to be as ignoran about india as much as u are about pakistan
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Maybe I didn’t know that they exist in pak cos maybe we probably haven’t had any problems with them. your so modern country kills new born girls in the villages like china Even today