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You guys leave in ur wonderland. The fact of the matter is that junoon artist are desperate to release albums in India as they know that in pakistan they cant make money.   

Why dont u talk about ur country poverty figures. We have managed to reduce the abolsulte pverty to 29% of our population but urs have increased form 43% to 45 % of ur population.

U people dont even have a democratic govt. We have a wonderful democracy. And to deny the goondas entry into parliament, this year our election comission have introduced an option called "none of the above" in the electronic voting machine wherein we can reject all of the candidates. thats called a true democracy. Our cricket team today has almost 30 % muslim representation , Zaheer, Irfan and Kaif (despite muslims only comprising 14% of Indias population). Thats what we call true India. If we dont want bal thakreys, we can vote them out of power from satte govt, but its so pity that u cant even do that as ur corrupt and coward military (lost bangladesh) take sover.
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Junoon's Sales figures are pathetic. they are nowehere in the top 50 top selling Asian pop artists....

Posted 01 Mar 2004

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Junoon Group best in Asia...         Give me a break. U guys urself branded it....   Tell me did it sold more copies than Asha Bhosles Album, Alisha Chinai's album or for that matter Kaanta Laga or shaans album...

This was really funny. Junoon comes up with all hyper active and stupid songs. Just 1 song was good, the rest all are typical pakistani crap.

India's Asha Bhosle and Alisha Chinai are pop queens.

If u combine junoons total sales, it would be not even half of what Falguni pathak sold.

If thats what u call best in Asia according to ur standards then its a pity.
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About Indias poverty figures, u said India has 600 milion poors.... LOL!! it can't get more funny. I wish u had taken economics as ur subject.

India Human Development Index ranking is much higher than pakistan. Our poverty % of population is much lower than pakistans.

About mosque demolition, yes riots took place where it does not. it happens everywhere. But u wont know about secularism, we muslims who interact with all religions in India know and mean it. Ur shias are killed day in and day out. Women r murdered in the name of honor killings.

About muslims being murdered in kashmir, well we muslims feel so happy if some terrorist gets killed, be it a muslim one.   About our politicians caring about muslims. Dotn foget Indian president is a muslim.

You are talking so much about our overty, have u seen urself and u country. If u want statistics, go to the pakistani site mentioned below:

https://www.yespakistan.com/hdf/whywedoit/hdinsa.asp#hpi

Sach kaha laaton ke bhoot baton se nahin maantay, thats why u were kicked on ur ass in the bangladesh war. indias poverty % is 29.33 % and Pakistans poverty percent is 45 %

Indian ecnomy will grow this year by 8.5 % and pakistans GDP is stuck in 4 %.

We feel bad if riots happen, but atleast our muslims are not killed by muslims only. So many shias get killed every month. The Indian muslims that migrated in 1947 are still called mohajirs. Your Averga eincome is much lower than that of Indians. I bet there are less poor muslims in india than in Pakistan..

You have scientists that are thugs and are frauds. You lost bangladesh war so badly and in kargil u showed ur back and ran away. The wold witnessed it.
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Paki Lion u make me laugh....ur artist are so poor compare to indian artist only because their songs dont sell much...we rule music.

About me being a muslim..muslims are better off in India then in pakistan...dont get too political...BTW, our President is a Muslim, the richest Indian Azim premji is muslim, muslim stars rule bollywood, the FM radio channels in mumbai are ruled by muslims. Bombays Biggest Call Centers amd IT firms belongas to muslims...Indian muslims are more than that in pakistan, riots take place everywhere, if we have gujrat then u have shias being shot dead while praying...

ur drama is good!!!            another joke....commercially our serials are successful. Our advertisements have been winnign awards at Cannes Ad fest for the last two years.. ur dramas are so boring lousy and no glamour, music or performance..

ur film artist pop artist and all are victim oflower pays
Posted 01 Mar 2004

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the fact is junoon's total abum sales combined sold less then the kaanta laga remix...

What u have to say on that
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even isha khopikar was called to france to perform a sance number.

Shilpa shetty danced at cannes.

We have MTV India channel coz our pop and film music are very good.
Posted 01 Mar 2004

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Please name one pakistani so called pop artist that won a single grammy.

And if ur pop songs are so good then why dont their albums sell more than their Indian counterparts despite their release officially in India.

Why dont ur artist make more money than indian singers...

Answer: their album do not sell much....only few pakistanis purchase them...
Posted 01 Mar 2004

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Sitarist Ravi Shankar has won Grammy Three Times.

As far as paki artist copy of songs is concerned, well there may be plenty, as we in India don't give a damn about ur artist, we dont know which one may be copied. Wish i had the courage to listen to a pakistani song (although my ears would teribly pain)..

Old is gold dear, and if Kareena wants to try some old fashion there is nothing wrong. Kareena does not look better than Ash, or madhuri dixit, but she is definitely beautiful than the old and nervous aunties from pakistan that were there.
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abrar_bombay said:

It no use fighting like this. U will always think that ur artist are better and we know that we are better. Our opinions wont change and neither the fortunes of ur entertainment industry.

So let it happen as it does happen for all good.

Shahrukh inroducing Resham: 100 films in 8 years (that means 100 times audience had to go through severe head pain and trauma )

Shahrukh continues: she has done films like jeeva ...

Resham standing damn nervous (she must be thinking...abhi main mummy ko boloongi aur muhallay ko bataaoongii that I was standing next to SRK )
Resham stops shahrukh and starts her self appraisal (badai)trying to impress everyone, but in vain: I have done jeeva, sangam, dupatta jal raha hai...

Shahrukh must be laughing within. He gently sends her offstage (bas auntijee aapnay bahut paka diya)



IM NOT SAYIN PAK ACTORS ARE BETTA COS I PREFER BOLLYWOOD MOVIES AND STARZ BUT I THINK KAREENA IS UGLY COMPARIN TO SOME LOLLYWOOD STARS. BUT I DEFENTLY DO THNK AND KNOW THAT OUT POP STARS ARE MILES BETTA THAN YOUR I MEAN JUNOON SINGLE NO MORE GOT INTO THE MTV AWARDS IN THE UK AN INDIAN SONG HAS NEVA BEEN IN THE MTV AWARDS IN THE UK NOT EVEN PUNJABI MC WHICH IS ACTUALLY BRITISH OR THAT LATA.


I think u only have junoon to harp on. And BTW, Junoon was made popular by India and Indians. It was Zee TV that invited junoon to india and made it famous. Otherwise they would always emain in the dust. And for ur kind information, Hariharan won the Grammy for his album Colonial Cousins. Tell me one pakistani artist that won a grammy. Apart of Hairharan, several indian classic musicians have won important awards including grammies...in USA. forget UK, it is always second to USA....

BTW, junoon is a one album band. Their remaining songs and albums have failed to create any impact. Indian Kaanta Laga remix made more money than Junoon's entire music sales combined...
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as if u guys dont copy our songs...?

u also blindly copy our movie titles like "dil to pagal hai" and convert raja hindustani to Raja Pakistani.. Ultimately, the one who makes more money is more popular as more people listen to that artist....

But the copied songs never made it to number 1 slot of the year...the audience still likes original songs and music by indian music directors.

Thats why hum aapkay hai kaun, dil to pagal hain, kuch kuch hota hai, K3G, Kal Ho Na Ho DDLJ and many many more are always and will always be the gem of indian cinema...

Poor pakistani artist need money desperately....
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It no use fighting like this. U will always think that ur artist are better and we know that we are better. Our opinions wont change and neither the fortunes of ur entertainment industry.

So let it happen as it does happen for all good.

Shahrukh inroducing Resham: 100 films in 8 years (that means 100 times audience had to go through severe head pain and trauma [LOL] [LOL] [LOL] )

Shahrukh continues: she has done films like jeeva ...

Resham standing damn nervous (she must be thinking...abhi main mummy ko boloongi aur muhallay ko bataaoongii that I was standing next to SRK [LOL] [LOL] )
Resham stops shahrukh and starts her self appraisal (badai)trying to impress everyone, but in vain: I have done jeeva, sangam, dupatta jal raha hai...

Shahrukh must be laughing within. He gently sends her offstage (bas auntijee aapnay bahut paka diya)

Posted 01 Mar 2004

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But I must say that the aunties of LOL!ywood were in full form. i wonder how they aspire to become bollywood actress. Meera more beautiful than Aishwarya Rai... ??
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Rekha was Nervous....Excuse me...may be u don't understand the meaning of nervous. And she was not childish, she is so mature diva and spoke brilliantly about single parenting. She shouted in excitement and thats what called the level of comfort, coz she felt good that her screen son won the best actress award. She made the environment so bubbly. Thats what called fun and pure entertainment. Nobody in bollywood cares about people who r dumb and nervous on stage.

About Kareena with the curly hairs, Kareena was hot, she looked sexy in that hair. Its funky. Pakistani actress do not know what fashion is all about. Kareena is so so beautiful. May be pakistanis did not like her. Big deal! who cares! she does not get revenues from ur nation.

So chill !!
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I heard some of paki songs and when sung by pakistani artist and their videos made in pakistan look so pathetic.

But if the same song is sung by indian artists and picturised beautifuly and music given some tehno, western Indian music beats then it sounds good. Fact of the matter is the "Maahi Ve" song in pakistan did not made good sales if u compare it with Kaante's song. Kaante's music rights only wss sold in millions of rupees. So stop crying. it happens everywhere..

Kaliyon ka chaman and chamma chamma were copied in hollywood. It did not made hollywood inferior. They made good business.



So chill friend. The fact of the matter is Indians make millions even after copying songs and pakistani artists are just get some thousand rupees.


nusrat fateh ali khan's wife has admitted in an interview that she thinks the best songs that nusrats sung and album were the one in which he collaborated with indian artists and music video was recorded in India. She says aafreen song looked and sounded much better when to was remixed and picturised in India than in pakistan.
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Sushmita looked sexy and vibrant mature lady. And she didnt looked 35+ as she is not. When she won Miss Universe in 1994, she was 18, so she is 28 or 29 now. Sushmita Sen speaks so well and what a command she has over the language she speaks be it Hindi, English or urdu. She is a Diva. About Resham, lol!    I never saw NE1 so nervous before. The 3 audience that danced with shahrukh were even more confident then resham. Resham was so excited to call out the stupid names of her films, as if she was dying for an offer from a bollywood producer. She spoke a very stupid line which sounded so artificial "humay srk ko nachtay dekha hain, acting kartay dekha hain, magar gana gaatay nahi suna". She sounded so unnatural. Yuks! I think if she comes to bollywood, she would end up being a side artist who will be dumped by producers after they go through a trauma of watcher her.
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YDAKH asessment of Pakistani Music was all about self appraisals that ur artists are known for. BTW, Biwi number 1 is wroth a title. Thats why u guys have copie our titles and makde them: Raja Pakistani, Dil to pagal hai and all stupid titles that was given. Instead of that they should focus of quality films.

BTW, ur assement of pakistan pops.    I cant stop laughing. The dozens of name u mentioned are not even known to any1 else besides pakistanis. Junoon was so called rock band of Asia because of some political reasons that it became famous due to just 1 song. I can't recollect any other song of junoon that ended up being anywhere in the top 10 slot of best selling albums.

Lata Mangeshkar appraises ur noorjehan and I dont have any bad mouth to tell about her. But the fact of the matter is Lata is much better singer and the world knows it. She may respect Late Noorjehan because she used to enjoy a sisterly relations with her. But every1 knows how commercially successful Lataji is.

About some song "dil vil pakistan" being the third favorite song in some poll. Well Favorite is different from Successful and good song. The poll must be having all the pakistani voters and no on else had participated in it and why would people from India show interest in it.

BTW, that dil vil pakistan song must not even have sold 5% of albums if you compare it with A.R Rahman's Bombay Dreams sales.

Live in today's world: Succeess and Sales are synonymous dear.
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I also saw pictures of actress Meera. Yuks, she is so ordinary looking 40+ years old actress. And in one interview posted on JB forum, I read that she thinks she is more beautiful than Aishwarya Rai.       I can't control my laughter. This is real fun!
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NFAKFan said:

2 bad abrar bombay left. i would have LOVED 2 discuss pakistani pop music with him. [:|] [:^:]



Is there somethign worth discussing....Pop music.   Ydakh i told u to find out the audio sales of ur artists albums. They all die for releasing their album in India. Most of them meet failures. When u said India Pop Music is smaller than pakistan's, I could not stop laughing. Please be informed that A.R Rahman, who also comosed Bombay dreams, has sold more albums then Britney Spears, Madonna and Jennifer Lopez combined. Check CNN and BBC sometimes.   

I think u may like ur pop songs, because a bad pop music is always much better than worst film music. So between the devil and the deep blue sea, you decided to chose either. But please dont get comparison into frame, as u dont know the facts.
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One of the actress didnt even know how to be in front of Camera. The so-called Aishwarya Rai of Pakistan was staring at the audience and praying "Ya Allah, have the Bollywood producers and directors take notice of myself".

She should have seen on the camera. She acted on stage as if she was one of the extra girls who just do the work of carrying the award and hand over to the presenter to honour the winners.
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So lets discuss ur so-called pop if u wish to.

BTW, the actress Resham was calling out her film names as if they were Titanic or lord of the rings kinda movies. It was so childish of her to rattofy the movie names. Most of them were of Gundagiris, Jeeva and all. And one of the funniest name i ever heard of a paki film was Sultana Daku
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Start a new thread and banned from JB. Well a ban wont change my views and public opinion.

If u find criticism so difficult to read, then i would never speak the truth on this board from now on. or would rather visit it.

Thanks a lot!
Count me out if thats the case.
Thats why i now realize, why competition in almost non existent in lollywood and this board.


Adios!
Posted 01 Mar 2004

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YDAKH, ur english is pathetic....

U said "pakistani pop music has accepted all over world..including india".

Now if i translate it in urdu or hindi, it means the following:

pakistani pop music nay duniya ko kabool kar diya hai aur india ko bhi kabool kar diya hai

u lost the words "been".

BTW, I dont like top point out pity things. But u guys desperately need to improve on ur English. It was also visible on Zee Awards, how poor ur artist's english was.
Posted 29 Feb 2004

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Pakistan's Pop Music Accepted All over the World. YDAKH , check the number of copies sold of ur artists.

BTW, what do u call world. I did not knew that an average american. russian, british, canadian, french, Asutralian and Latinos listen to pakistani pop music. May be i should resign from my call center job. I speak all night with these foreigners and they always found out bollywood and india songs to be a point of informal discussion.

May be a next time a latin american residing in miami calls me up, I will first ask him "so how many copies of Ali Haider's song have u purchased" Ali haider is giving Michael Jackson a run for his money... LOL!!!!!

May be my sarcastic comments will make the customers laugh
Posted 29 Feb 2004

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But The best part of the awards was when Juhi Chawla sang the Kal Ho na Ho song
Posted 29 Feb 2004

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Can Any1 tell me who that guys who said" india pakistan dosti zindabad" was. I think his name is javed shaikh.

Posted 29 Feb 2004

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ydakh, i am sorry if i offended any1. But I was just trying to say that the one popular among the masses should be on Zee Cine Awards. Honestly speaking no one in India knows about Reema, Meera, Seema, Cheema and all.

But we know about junoon, we know about Mehdi hasan and Abida Parveen. But unfortunately they are not in ur film industry.
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About Pakistan's pop artist popularity in India and world. LOL!     that was a good one.

Can you please check through the music industry files in your country and in India and please find out how many copies your so called hit pop artist sold in "India"

Well if you compare all his album's sale, it still wont come anywhere to the sale of Falguni Pathaks or for that matter Kaanta Laga videos.

Our pop songs are technically, visually and more importantly singing wise so better.   

I do not wish to offend any1. But I myself am a fan of pakistani artist like Mehdi Hassan and Junoon. I thought of Junoon to be a big hit. But after the Sayoone song, they havent come with a big time hit.

BTW, as far as Indian Pop Songs popularity in the world is concerned, I was watching BBC new's Asia Today programme and there i saw Japanese girls and guys swinging to India pop tunes of Kaanta Laga remix.

FYI, Bombay dreams of A.R Rahman is categorized as a pop album for a theatre and it sold millions of copies worldwide.

Indian Pop Singer, Hariharan won the grammy for his albu, Colonial Cousins some years back.

Punjabi MC, the mudya song fella got the Europe Music Awards.

And if u go by sheer number of sales, then u will know which one is popular.

And tell me one living pakistani singer's album in 2003 that sold more albums than Kaanta Laga.

I think ur press has hyped ur pop industry. and if they get carried away, then they will face same fate as ur film industry
Posted 29 Feb 2004

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India media called her Ash.

Hey Man, Indian media is famous for impressing visiting personaities by showering praise. My cousin works for Bombay Times Newspaper and I know that it is all done to get a chance to interview the visiting personality.

And By the Way...if u listen carefully or read carefull the Indian Media's comment, then you will realize that India media did not called her Ash. India media said that she is called Pakistan's Aishwarya Rai in Pakistan
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I think they should have invited Junoon or Abida Parveem from Pakistan. Coz they are the only pakistani Pop acts that are worth listening. The rest all we in India heard just come up with some stupid music (Ali Haider (except purani jeans song all his songs are pathetic), Strings and all craps and they are big time flop.

I think Indian pop really rock nowadays with peppy remixes and originals like Alisha China, Asha Bhosale, Shaan, Sonu Nigam, amazing Falguni Pathak and all the new talent that are taking pop in India at par with Bollywood Music
Posted 29 Feb 2004