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quote:but the point is.. again.. end note.. Admin... Life is wot u make.. not wot happens coz of Conditions etc.. its up to u if u use a stone to trip on.. or step on...
Well that's why life is weird until you don't understand it! if you know what life exactly is you won't ask me diz question :)
quote:WHAT THE HECK Iz Goin ON HERE??? U guys are writing thesis or whaT?
Good idea, we can make thesis of iT! lol
quote:lol..nah yaar...no enemies here...and everyone got their own opinions and whatever it maybe..offcourse we all respct it...and respect u;r opinion too...but see...my parents mean a lot to me also...but i happen to be a bit rebel kind...lol..dat's why..shniff shniff...
Thank you bazi! :) need not say more! i know something iz wrong inside u & sharara too lol
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Ok tell you what I think i'll make more enemies here i'll end up here only with a small note.
In my life my parents are everything. What they say is correct even if they are wrong. Coz when I trusted them whole life even when i was kid i did'nt knew anything i trusted them why why why I try to me smart when actually they taught me how to be smart. Coz my life is given to me by my parents and you have to trust them to live happily. All i know is you marry with your parents wish you'll always be happy and successful in life no matter what. Otherwise if you go by your own Best of luck from me!
~~ Snip Snip ~~ I Surrender my self to ma parents ~~
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quote:i disagree bhai...how do parents know it;s just attrestion and no love? nah...i know many couples who got love marriage and they r together for years now and r happy...so yaay baat too janab apki ghalat hae k it;s only attraction...
Well, they are pretty smart I guess, so they know very well. which you can't see in love(possibly) they can see.
quote:sure u can love her also, but u see...apni love ko light switch samjha hae jo click kiya and on and click kiya and off? lol..i mean...love is not forced..love ho jata hae..right? and tell me..in case u never fell in love with galY..then what? i know they still can life peaceful life with girlY as being wife...but...lemme tell u..da memories of galX...would always always cuz problems in marriage...
Well yes love hojata hai, ofcourse if you live with somebody for some time you get attracted pretty soon, and don't give me your example lol that u wont! :p GalX memories well what about the Guy's memories.. they both have it, but if they are not kids they'll understand soon.
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See in short, if your parents agree on marrying the guy / girl you love.. whom am I to create a problem! lol if parents agree who cares about rest...
so if parents meet the guy/girl and they are fine . go ahead! but i'm talking about cases where parents don't agree and guy/girl runs away or abuses his/her parents or messes around.
Bazigaar's point was nor towards his parents nor somebody else that "Will not marry.."
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Tell me why do they call love is blind? coz when you are love you don't see anything else other than da Girl or Guy.. so your parents no matter whay they say, you won't listen.
Parents do meet da GirlX and suggest that she is not good for you, but as "Love" who listens na!
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quote:1) ok.. Girl X isnt Suitable.. Marriage is for a life... not temporary, same way.. im sure things can alwaz be worked out.. i dont think if ur out to start a life with someone.. u hav the right to be selfish.. i mean... can somethings not be handled more diplomatically? both ways?
Let me correct my statement there were reasons by parents for GirlX, but @ that particular time Guy won't undersatnd the reasons.. that's for sure! so there no question left. and yes marriage is for life only that's whay parrent say marrying GirlX will be temporary since it's not love just attraction!
quote:will u go and marry y.. and a) live with her as if nothing happened thinking girl X will be ok later on? or b) will u make her miserable coz u cant give her the same love? either way.. if u can give the same luv.. and liive as if nothing happened.. pls correct ur statemnt.. U DONT love GIRLX.. its just an attraction or wotever.. but never Classsify it as LOVE
a) nopes not as if nothing happened, though memories are still there. b) why to make life miserable.. ? huh why cna't u love her that much or even more ? love does'nt have limit or there is no tank inside human filled with 1 ltr of love given to GirlX not left for GirlY .. excuseme.. you can fell in love again! and again & again!
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lol! yeah good point but then why are parents for ? to guide and make sure that you don't burn yourself.. they keep you protected from every obstacle in life that's their job.
So what my point is if you listen to parents you won't put your DAMN HAND IN FIRE! lol so is'nt it better to listen to parents always rather than experimenting urself ? huh
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quote:u know..i don;t wanna get into this but according to islamic point of view what i heard (i dunno how true it is) is k when a kid is born...kid is muslims...now god knows da best how true is this thing..anyways...
see i don't even want to involve religion here in this case, coz it's something seperate but as references quoted from religion so has to be here, well as observed in real word you a born without any religion then your parents guide you all the way thru who you are , what you are & etc.. if they tell you you are christian you are christian for your life simple as that.
quote:well, admin bhai...think about it...how can flawless marry girlX or girlY...u see...
and about me...well, i know k my parents can;t force me to marry girl Y and if i see they r not listening o my reasoning then all i'd do is say fine...no girlX..no girlY...no shadi...no marriage...and dat's it...
haha! yeah flawless can't marry GirlX or GirlY . .but reverse the order flawless and then tell me.
& about you, they will listen to your reasoning but at that point of time you won't understand later on in life you will do that your parents were correct! well if you say no shadi nuffin, then also all hearts are broken.. your parents & GirlX and even yours. Who is most important in your life you priortize it .. and then make decisions. :)
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flawless & Bazigaar i think I was quite clear no conditions nothing .. just answer what will you do ? there are reasons for parents not agreeing on GirlX, no further explainations.. there are just reasons that are logical but if you like GirlX you won't understand the reasons... coz it happens like that.
So i'll appreciate the simple answer, no questions further that's clear enuff :)
quote:sorry to interupt admin jee bt marriage is part of out religion, infact, religion is an aspect of our whole life n we cnt put it aside jus 4 our own wants n needs!
When you are born which religion you have? Can you answer simple question?
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.. Well here the debate is related only to marriage not going against religion or something, parents forcing somethign against religion is something totattly different..
Let's put it this way you like GirlX and you've been with her for few years and pretty comfortable and u love/like her a lot etc etc.. now your parents have seen a GirlY for you which they think is deal for you. so what will you do ? run away with GirlX and live seperately.. or marry GirlY as your parents say..
Contions Your parents won't accept GirlX under any condition, coz of various reasons.. and neither you can convince your parents..only either you marry GirlX or GirlY .. no other options please!
oh btw, Bazi don't tell me now your parents will say go beta go.. do whatever you like, coz not everybody has so open minded parents. so be in neutral position and tell me. What other ppl will do tell me ? for girls put it other way and tell!
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Well, i'll only say I still don't agree! parents have 100% right over kids life.. they brought you up they have every right to do so.
Bazi, not everybody is like you to control themself, and stayback it happens and u never know :)
Well about dreams r broken for the girl/guy.. how about the parents dreams which they thought since you were never even born ? don't they have some value ? if your parents ask you your life even you cannot say no since it's given by them its not your own life in first place. so how can u even think of other stuff!
sadz agree wit ya! life is weird... but only if u don't understand it, if you do it's the best ~~ !! ~~
jag
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Well true! you are old enuf :) but not everything thinks like that dude, you meet a girl or guy in college in univ study togather, though as friends just little talk talk. . u study for few years move to college.. then college gets over u feel like some part of your life is missing.. then you realize that you actually like talking to da girl/guy... when you study or meet each other you don't ask them you will marry me lol! but someway or the other few things are beyond control.. and diz is one of em!
it's not necessary to marry the same person you love, love has it's own place in life and should respect, coz if you love somebody u know how it hurts so you make sure that in future you don't hurt anybody else.. and lots of things yaar! i ain't trying to be professor here but hota hai!
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Seee for parents a kid is always a kid no matter how old he/she is! they want to see their child happy and don't want to get hurt in future.. that's the only reason they try to get her/him fixed on their choice since they know it will be good for the guy/girl. . in rare cases it happens things turn out opposite but "RARE".. as in other cases whereby guy/girl goes on their own.. most of the cases end up in dispute and seperations!
So you take a rare risk.. or take a most risk! most people are smart enough what can i say :)
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quote:Originally posted by Bazigaar
quote:well , i think if our parents say NO....then there is always a reason for that......we have to listen to them also....
not really...i know in some cases parents just don;t want to listen at all anything about someone u love and wanna get married..they just want to marry u off where they want to...so yeah sometimes parents can be very unreasonable...
Well bazi in some cases rite! but even you must have seen girls who go on their on & marry the guy.. after some time the life becomes miserable.. and eventually they end up @ their own home crying upside down!! that's what parents don't want.
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Well see parents bring you up.. taught you how to talk,walk everything aspect of life they are with you, and suddenly you boycot and go against.. just for some guy ? eh.. is'nt it unreasonable. even if they decide something 4 u.. you should think that you are paying them back for what they have given you in your entire life though it's pretty less but still better something than nothing.
Most of the people might not agree with me here, but when you'll become dad/mom yourself then you'll understand.. I guess.
Oh btw, this is my idea thought.. not here to argue on it lol!
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Well basically nobody wants junks calls anyway like emails.. so that's why if u leak out your cell phones then u'll start getting calls from all over tele marketers u wnat this, you want that.. blah blah.. eventually u'll end up changing your number :)
