How to judge a good actor is how well he applies the method style of acting. how adeplty he changes himself according to different types of roles. from that point of view , shahrukh stands no where. he just keeps on imitating himself and his expressins are mostly over the top. he hasn't showed any variety in his acting style.
shan is much much better than him. he's the only one in the sub continent among the young generation of actors who knows the method acting.though his acting technique is inspired by marlon brando.

sorry queen victoria for starying form the topic. just thought, to show the mirror to an idiot here.
I won't do it again.
lets get back to the main topic.

indian muslims have no standing in the world. for the simple reason, they're minority community.and as you all know, monorities are at the mercy of the majority . whenever there's a voting the majority 's opinion counts.

indian muslims can't even eat beef in most of the states. what a pity! they've to seek the permission of the majority even for the type of food they eat.

Thank God! my fore fathers sacrificed for their next generations so we could live as first class citizens of an independent country !

now which hollywood have these copy cats ripped off ????

very much doubt shan would give a sh*t to that bhatt watt or whatever the name of that guy is.
he's the kind of guy who's going to teach watt a few things. poor mahesbh watt

I don't want shan to work in bollywood films.If shan does that, I would feel he has sold himself at a cheap price.
they are not trustworthy, based on past record.

dilbara said:

haah another zealot comment by khansahibji..of course he was discouteous and even though he felt it ..he shouldnt have said it. u gather nutthin and u have no idea how it is to live in plural society. all this stupid religion stuff is outdated . you seem to be livin in stoneages. they dont have to marry their daughters to rich guys cause they are one of the richest in india. dilshad begum was married to the prince when she was 24 and he was 27 and it was a love marriege . religion matters to conservative guys like you. what about sonya jahan who married an indian hindu dude and settled in india . or anita ayub who did the same . they are pakistanis . did they marry for money. stop this bullsh*t. i am a muslim and i dont thin ki am answerable to anyone i marry be it a hindu or a christian or whoever. these are the people who have incorporated the true value of secularism. muslims in india have it much better than pakistan . atleast we arent killed by muslims like it happens in pakistan on a daily basis . guess its ok if a muslim kills muslim. more muslims have died in pakistan by muslims than they have in india by hindus . you caqnt even compare the figures. dude the muslim card doesnt work anymore . pakistan is screwd up man and just cause u are a muslim doesnt make me love you more. and by the way in a plural society there are clashes but institutionally there is no stoppin muslims in india and we can become the richest person in india ( aziz premji) biggest superstar ( sharukh khan ) social activist ( shabana azmi) cricket captain ( azhar) or even the prez ( azad ). maybe the previous generation of muslims in india were screwd up identity wise because of creation of pakistan but now even a blind person can see how pakistan is in tatters and where india is right now. actually its a good thing that pakistan was created cause it seperated a lot of conservatives from us . we arent like u dude and you cant be like me.

are you sure dilshad begum had a love marriage?? (though doesn't take much time to fall love with a 'weaklhy' prince )
'kiddie' you seriously need to update your infomration because few years after her marriage, under the guidance of her greedy brothers,she was trying to woo our ex prime minister nawaz sharif. she was his keep for a long time. what a sham of a marriage!
what a family brothers pimp ,sister and daughters prostitutes(under cover )!

and this dumb dude sunjay khan , who was always a non-actor, is a defaulter.

thanks to the farsightful leaders of muslim league(of pre-partition india(which is a muslim name) ) , who could see through the hindu mentality. whoever says a hindu and a muslim can live together is distorting facts for his own selfish gains. all those muslims who stayed back did it to save their property and money.
IN PAKISTAN NO ONE KILLS A MUSLIM BECAUSE HE'S A MUSLIM. THAT HAPPENS ONLY IN INDIA!
you're a prejudice, narrow minded indian , just accept it kiddie.

by the way, find your perosnality quite contradictory on one had you call yourself a muslim and on the other you consider it 'out-dated'( ) to folow religion.please make up your mind where you stand.
Am I the only one who thinks he's confused! a product of 'secular india' !

May Allah bestow you with some common sense. (Amen)

dilbara said:

ok now khansahib ...u r prolly bitter at pakistan being called a failed state or the fact that india is far ahaed in every sphere be it political, economics, media, arts and entertainemt, education....tourism.not to mention size..u name it. now i m sure your militant mentality of comparing with india and making a fool of urself. we arent in the same league. now if u wanna debate on that then i ll rip ur theories to tatters by quoting international sources. as far as media is concerned ..indian media is doin great . after hollywood it is the only industry whose products are seen much beyond its own borders. pakland , nepal, sri lanka, bangladesh, middle east , africa, and of course limited audience in america and europe. the days of indian song and dance routines being ridiculed are over . its a multibillion dollar industry and its the money that speaks. that s the reason that every international media house has corporates in india cause they know how much money is involved . amitabh and shahrukh are prolly the most well known stars by sheer eye balls that recognize these guys. our stars get a rousing reception where ever they go. to the extent that they can come to your country and insult you on ur soil. dude . pakistani cinema is in tatters just like pakistan itself. is there any concept of cinema in ur country. where are the multiplexes, where are the families that go and see it . where is the money. where is the film cities. where is the equipment and where is the professionalism. if indian media wasnt dominating there was no reason for ur dictator to ban it. if it wasnt that attractive there was no reason for ur people , cinema owners and cable guys to go on strikes demanding it. look i know it sucks for you but being in denial wont do sh*t. as far as mixing with pakistanis is concerned , your artists come to india and then fukin start living there. how much more can we assimilate them . yea of course religion has no place in indian society , only at homes or places of worship, so we dont zealots from pakland living here. but if you are modern and progressive then we welcome you with open arms . this is exactly the whole world is sayin to muslims all over . how are we different. look at adnan sami, loo kat meera, sonya jahan ..granddaughter of a pakistani legend , she even married ahindu and settled down in india. did i mention javed shiekh, shoib akhtar, strings and atif aslam who are virtualy living in india and spend more time than they do in pakland. i mean cmon , are u tryin to fool urself . as far as conservatism is concerned , dude you know what state of affairs is ther ein ur nation. everything is crime in islamic republic of pakistan, what do u guys do in the evenings, where do u go after 6 o clock except eat out. dont talk about .1 % richi riches who live it up. the general population is screwed cause there is nutthin in the name of entertainment. thats why there is no tourism in pakland besides security concerns and it being called a hotbed of terrorism and the 'most dangerous place on earth'. am i wrong. even now ur public transpost is segregated for sexes . ur schools arent even co education . you are one of the most sex straved nation in the world. there is nutthin for entertainment. even ur pakistan channels are filled with indian programs.
anyways ...before making tall claims , back em up with sources . so much for khan sahib and his delusions.
and golimaro..its ms dilbara ..proud muslim and proud indian. peace.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! I SET YOU UP!
all your so-called 'power' and 'progress' and false claims of 'superiority' were exposed in Kargil.

dilbara said:

i meant he insulted pakistan on pakistans soil. its shameful . i am an indian but embarrassed by the incident. however feroz khan has been known for his shenanigans for the last 40 years.whatever he did in pakistan is just an extension of his personality. this whole khan family is very influential, friends including people like sultan of brunei, PM of mauritius . amongst others. their parties are the wildest in bombay and everyone bends over on all fours to get in. and they are outspoken, almost cavalier about everything they say and consider themselves not answerable to anyone. that s how they are.in india they are loved for that but i guess it wnet too far in pakistan. however i m sure he meant whatever he said and it just came out more cause he was drunk. this khan family like other middle class and up muslims in india is secular to the core . here is a peek inside their family.
three brothers--feroz khan , sanjay khan, and akbar khan. feroz married a hindu , a top model of her times called sundari..have two kids fardeen and laila. fardeen married natasha, who has a hindu father and a muslim mother ..the godess of 60's mumtaaz. laila khan is married to a hindu named rajpal and lives in new delhi now. feroz henceforth divorced his wife and now has a girlfriend 25 years his junior. such is his charisma.
sanjay khan, an accomplished actor of his times and now runs one of the top television software company which made big budget tv series like the sword of tipu sultan and mahabharata, married a parsi beuty queen zarine and have a son zayed khan whos an actor and recently married a hindu girl and a daughter suzanne khan who is married to hindu heart throb hrithik roshan. akbar khan is a bachelor and known for his drinking and womnaizing ways. this family is very modern , outlandishly so and very proud of their mindset . they never converted their spouses and are very chilled out that way.
Ofcourse being celebrities one does get away with lot of things and feroz khan was a high flyin khan of his times like salman khan is now. so many times he got into trouble with the law but being the celebrity he is got away with it ..same like salman khan who was imprisioned for 5 years but waw released three days later and was watching the indo pak match in dubai and now is touring the us for his shows. everyone in india knows not to f**k around with this khan cause he volatile, very well loved, intelligent and very well connected. i m not condoning what he did . even though he might feel it , he shouldnt have said it. but trust me he wont lose any sleep over the prospects of not visiting pakistan again. he is in poland now directing his new blockbuster.

there's a lot of difference between being outspoken and being outright discourteous. what he did belongs to the latter category. if he's so dare devil and devil-may-care kind of attitude guy why doesn't he fight for the rights of his community in india? why does he keep mum over there?
from all the traits you've mentined, I gather he comes from some low-class nouvo rich family.
the reason why he acted like that in pakistan is no one really paid attention much to him. he's not at all popular here. in pakistan there's no unneccessary celebrity worshipping. that might have frustrated the old ruffian.
whereas his entire family is concerned, they are all pimps. on how they make these big connections and money , they marry there daughters to rich guys doesn't matter which religion they belong to as long they've MONEY.
there own sister dilshad begum is married to an OLD hindu kashmiri raja(old but filthy rich).

dilbara said:

we have exposure world wide and also the technology and craft is world class in india . the movies look like a professional product. where does the difference ...and this is true for any country where film making is huge and there are only three countries like that...usa, india and china.

are you kidding or what? howocme you have worldwide exposure? most of the foreigners don't even know who the heck shaurkh or amitabh is? even if you mention bollywood, they burst into a laughter 'oh ya those funny films people with people going crazy danicng'. tha's it. bollywood is the joke of the season.

the people , the film watching audience decides where the industry is going. we have a culture of movies where everyone from a infant toddler to a 100 year old man would go to a theatre and watch movies. the theatres are world class multiplexes and familes and women throng em. millions go to cinemas on a daily basis. its entrenched in the indian society.

that also shows people don't have anywhere else to go to.
so the only option they've is to go watch films. it does not at all mean they are well made films. in fact, your indian audience has a bad tatse. if shahrukh is concerned a heart throb in your country imagine the dearth of beauty ? from perosnal observation, most of the indians go to theatre just to promote their films.

pakistanis movies look worse than home videos. how would people of other countries know them when your own people dont watch it. they are pathetic low budget trash. the cameras are from stoneage....and there is no concept of art direction or cinematography or other technological aspects like sound and other stuff. the acting osover the top and there is no one who even looks like a star . sorry dude but the films look like they are made by a paanwala who just won a lottery.

f someone from Iran, france said it I wouldn't mind, because they have talented people back home in their film industry but you are not in a position to say that. apart from a few names your industry is replete with non actors and copycats . you don't even have ten films produced in the recent ten years films which are original.
whereas acting is concerned, there's no actor like shan in your entire industry.

the only good pakistani movie was khamosh paani and that also was directed by a pakistani who is settled in new delhi and is acquiring an indian citizenship.

you know what indians need to get there facts right. where as india promotes khamosh pani( for 'obvious reasons'), as good film blah blah pakistan has never even promoted it.
we have so much talent in our country we are not dependent on just one name to feel secure about ourselves. secondly, we've seen the golden age of our cinema which has given bollywood enough films to churn out copies of. we have got talented people in our film industry the only thing which was lacking was money but now people have started investing again . what bothers me is although bolylwood has got money but whats the use when there's no brain to use it????? no wonder your films have never won any pretigious international award.

cinema is just not about making movies but a whole culture. the reason why indian cinema has reached far corneers of the world is because of a billion plus patrons at home who watch movies religiously in theatres. in pakistan there are other issues like culture and restrictive society , where censor plays a part and families dont out. so there are no comparisons. also one could extend this thought and say that the difference in cinema is the difference in socieites and countries that pakistan and india are.

Pakistan is a restrictive country??? are you serious?
I think the amount of narrow-mindedness and communalism one can see in India can't find anywhere else in the world. your communities don't even like to mingle with each other. no pakistani artist can gain respect in india unless he indianizes himself or pretends to be indianized.