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kanchan said:

FORECAST: These elections will create a big mess, No One will get majority.
Every Part will get almost equal seats with a very minor difference,
Untill 2 or 3 Months no one will be able to form a cabinet.
And in the end, Presidential System will be implemented for 2 years as test.


Save this post, we will discuss the sources after the elections.
very interesting,your post saved the topic from a complete disaster atleast
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keep waiting
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i think shahrukh u should report the matter to authorities after consulting with some senior members of muslim community.surely,authorities will have no objection changing it and even if they dont atleast u will be satisfied that u have done your duty
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SALL said:

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness O ALLAH, that I have conveyed your message to your people."

these last lines show how much he cared for us..those who have not seen him or heard him and still are believers.its very touching indeed
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yes whats your point really?
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Smooth_daddy said:

I agree rap. I mean to say, things don't change overnight. If we want change, then we must be the agents of change and want it for ourselves first. When motives and purpose in mind change, change in the society follows the suit.

s.d we badly need someone like u here,who does not just have knowledge,but common sense also.
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unmentionable
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religion is between u and GOD.koi jay na jay,us ki marzi
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thank u so much doc is nazm main pata nahin kya he jitni bar parho dil nahin bharta
    qatel gahon se chun ker hamare alam
    aur niklain gay ashaaq k kafile
    jin ki rahetalab se hamare qadam
    mukhtasar ker chale dard k fasile
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haan,samjha kero na
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Pakistan Vs England 1day cricket in Cardiff 30 th August Wooooooooo

It will be Fantastic, Pakistan all the WAY!!!!!!!!!



yup,another reason to live
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actually,her masle ka hal amne samne beth ker dialogue kerne main he aur dialogue initiate kerna gov.ka farz he jis ko vo poora nahin ker rahi phir yehi kuch ho ga
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ya me too
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yes,actually i wanted to post this topic somewhere else,ghalti se j.b per post ker dia TOPIC CLOSED
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Virdan said:

i think now baat mazaq mein chali gai hay so stop talking its better 4 all of us

YES,virdan is right,asooli tor per virdan ki pst bilkul sahi thi,usmain behes ki gunjaish thi mager ab ye behes nagative side per chali gai he.lets stop talking
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my opinion is that we should never try to justify our faith on the basis of modern values and/or science etc.islam does not need any justification,ager ALLAH aur US k RASOOL s.a.w.s ne slavery ko aur female slaves k saath relationship ko jaiz kaha he to,we need not be apologetic about it.human values are bound to change,some 1500 years ago whole world considered it normal to keep slaves now we dont,but who knows after a couple of centuries our values take a u-turn once again.ager koi cheez badalne vaali nahin he to vo ALLAH ka deen he.vo jaisa bhi he hamain us ko as it is qabool kerna pare ga.vo log jo western values se mutasir hain aur un ko deen k bare main maloomat bhi na hone k baraber hain,vo aisa hi kehte hain jaisa k yahan kaha ja raha he,main na manoon RASOOL-E-PAK S.A.W.S ne farmaya tha,jab dajjal nazil ho to tum koshish ker k us se bachna kyunke bohat se log jab us se milain gay to momin hon gay aur jab mil ker vapis aaian gay to kafir ho chuke hon gay.why?is liay k jo bhi deen ko aqal aur mantak k sahare manta he,anti-christ k paas us ki her baat ka jawab ho ga.ISLAM KO BAGHER DALEEL AUR LOGIC K MANEIN,KYUNKE HER LOGIC CHANGE HO SAKTI HE,HER DALEEL KA TOR HO SAKTA HE,BUT ALLAH KA DEEN JAISA HE VAISA HI RAHE GA
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Chapter Five

Slavery in Islam

All the ancient as well as the contemporary scholars acknowledge the fact of slavery in Islam and clarify the status of slaves. I have chosen the opinions of the most famous scholars to shed light on their position.

The Scholars of al-Azhar in Egypt

In his book, "You Ask and Islam Answers", Dr. 'Abdul-Latif Mushtahari, the general supervisor and director of homiletics and guidance at the Azhar University, says (pp. 51,52),

"Islam does not prohibit slavery but retains it for two reasons. The first reason is war (whether it is a civil war or a foreign war in which the captive is either killed or enslaved) provided that the war is not between Muslims against each other - it is not acceptable to enslave the violators, or the offenders, if they are Muslims. Only non-Muslim captives may be enslaved or killed. The second reason is the sexual propagation of slaves which would generate more slaves for their owner."

The text is plain that all prisoners of war must either be killed or become slaves. The ancient scholars are in full agreement over this issue, such as Ibn Timiyya, Ibn Hisham, Malik etc. Ibn Timiyya says (Vol. 32, p. 89),

"The root of the beginning of slavery is prisoners of war; the bounties have become lawful to the nation of Muhammad."

Then (Vol. 31, p. 380), he indicates clearly

"Slavery is justified because of the war itself; however, it is not permissible to enslave a free Muslim. It is lawful to kill the infidel or to enslave him, and it also makes it lawful to take his offspring into captivity.

In Part 4, p. 177 of the "Prophet Biography" (Al-Road Al-Anf'), Ibn Hisham says,

"According to Islamic law concerning prisoners of war, the decision is left to the Muslim Imam. He has the choice either to kill them or to exchange them for Muslim captives, or to enslave them. This is in regard to men, but women and children are not permitted to be killed, but must be exchanged (to redeem Muslim captives) or enslaved - take them as slaves and maids."



On Matters Of Sex And Marriage -

1. The Slave cannot choose for himself.

This was confirmed by all the Muslim scholars on the authority of Muhammad. In Vol. 6, Part 9, p. 467, Ibn Hazm said,

"If a slave gets married without the permission of his master, his marriage will be invalid and he must be whipped because he has committed adultery. He must be separated from his wife. She is also regarded as an adulteress because Muhammad said, `Any slave who gets married without the approval of his master is a prostitute.'"

The same text is quoted by Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya (Part 5, p. 117 of "Zad al-Maad"), as well as Ibn Timiyya (Vol. 32, p. 201). Malik Ibn Anas relates (Vol. 2, Part 4) more than that. He says (pp. 199, 201, 206),

"The slave does not get married without the approval of his master. If he is a slave to two masters, he has to obtain the approval of both men."



2. The male slave and the female slave are forced to get married.

Malik Ibn Anas says explicitly,

"The master has the right to force his male or female slave to marry without obtaining their approval" (Vol. 2, p. 155).

Ibn Hazm says that Sufyan al-Thawri, too, has said that the master has the right to force his male or female slave to marry without securing their approval (Vol. 6, Part 9, p. 469). Ibn Timiyya is of the same opinion.

I must not fail in this regard to mention that Malik Ibn Ons, who (after agreeing with the other scholars that the master has the right to force his male or female slave to get married) added,

"The master does not have the right to force the female slave to wed to an ugly black slave if she is beautiful and agile unless in case of utmost necessity" (refer to Ibn Hazm, Vol. 6, Part 9, p. 469).

3. The Arab freeman does not marry a slave unless it is inevitable:

In Vol. 31, p. 383, Ibn Timiyya says,

"It is not permissible for the Arab freeman to marry an owned slave unless it is inevitable, such as being unable to get married to a free woman. If it happened and he were wed to a slave, her children would be slaves, too, because they follow (the status) of the mother in slavery."

Malik Ibn Anas notes,

"It is not allowable for a man to wed a slave besides his freewoman wife. In this case, his wife has the right to divorce him. Likewise, if he marries a freewoman while he is already married to a slave and he fails to tell her so, the freewoman has the right to leave him" (Malik, Vol. 2, p. 204).

What Would Happen If A Freewoman Married Her Slave?

Let us see the reaction of Umar Ibn Khattab in these situations. In Vol. 8, Part 11, pp. 248, 249, Ibn Hazm remarks,

"A woman was wed to her male slave. Umar intended to stone her, but instead he made them separate and sent the slave to exile. He told the woman, `It is unlawful for you to get married to your owned slave!' Another woman got married to her slave. Umar scourged her with a whip and forbade any man to marry her. Another time, a freewoman came to Umar and told him, `I am not a pretty woman and I have a slave to whom I would like to get married.' Umar refused to do so. He whipped the slave and ordered him to be sold in a foreign country. He told the woman, `It is unlawful for you to get married to what your right hand owns. Only men have the right to get wed to what their right hand owns. Even if you set him free in order to marry him and he becomes a freeman, the manumission will be invalid and the marriage is not valid."'

In matters of sex and marriage, Ibn Timiyya states:

"The one who owns the mother also owns her children. Being the master of the mother makes him the owner of her children whether they were born to a husband or they were illegitimate children. Therefore, the master has the right to have sexual intercourse with the daughters of his maid-slave because they are his property, provided he does not sleep with the mother at the same time" (Vol. 35, p. 54).

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what a great win that was.i only watched the last 11 overs,chasing a total of 288,india required another 102 to win with 8 wickets in hand and 11 overs to go.and paki bowlers and fielders put up such a great fight,they dismissed the remaining indian batsmen in next 8 overs only.i will remember a catch taken by tofeeq umer for a long time.he dived back in the air to catch the ball knocking down bazid khan in the process,and not letting the ball to touch the ground pakistani 2nd fiddles have also proved their might
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kya ooper jo QURANIC VERSES aur AHADITH main ne quote ki hain vo ap ne nahin parhin
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as if guys were not enough to tease asian
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GOD! ITS HILARIOUS
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Teen Tracker said:

nikama bhai wah wah


in ki parwa na karo yeh humaree azmat se jalte hain



achaaaaaaaaa
geeeeee.azeem logon se ye dunia yunhi jalti aai he,but who cares
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hamare pindi cantt. ki bhi yehi halat he,although we dont even have a nazim
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