sahih kaha Sall mein aap ki baat samajh gayi hoon
jab kuch na karte hoon tu khali awaz unchi ker lete hain k dekho hum ye ker rahe hain self -solace

thnx to understand me H


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hmm acha yara

kissi bahar k bande ko galt kehna shayad zyada asaan hota hai

but see,,, yesterday my bro came back from pak and he s bought loads of cd/dvds including one of na'at (Qtv waale logon ki)
i know my brother well,, woh namaz nahi parhta to na'at sunn k konsa sawab mil jae ga

sahih kaha pahle farz poore kerne chahyein phir nafal

Theet tahti hain aap Chall

mujhe bi toi aitraz nahin hay ,
naat sun.na and sab kuch

main bohat kam naat etc sunti hon
coz you know jab music sunti hon to i know k yah gunah hay
but still i do ( m weak )but tab kuch bura feel nahin ho raha hota.

But agar naat sun.nay lagon, and namaz na parhi ho to
ajeeb sa feel hota hay ,
not gud

+ mujhe aisay logon ko jinko main janti hon k
wo kitnay buray hain
jab wo sirf dikhaway k tor pal
naat qawaliyan sun.nay lagain to
main un k sath kabi nahin baithti
na unki do 5 mins ti "achi" batain sun sakti hon!

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and abt thoze prgs
to i never watch em
coz books main sab tuch hi to likha hoa hay.
and jo log daikhtay hain,
wo bas apni marzi ka jawab chah rahay hotay hain.
mainay thud daikha hay,
jawab apnay matlab k mutabik mil jaye to HAPPY
na milay to "kisi alam say pochna chahiya"
lol

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aik aur channel bhe hai "PEACE" k naam say..

.. i often watch programmes on that channel .. us par India k famous Alim Dr Zakir Naik atay hein, i really like the way that person convince people..

baqi channels kabhee zaida dekhay nahi tu pata nahi hai.. par suna zaroor hai..

kaafi dafa aisay bhee hota hai k kuch chezoon ki wrong interpretation ki jaati hai ye tu mainey bhee suna hai..

deen main itnii bidaat shamil ho chuke hain k at times samjh he nahi ate k kia sahe aur kia ghalat hai .. bidat ko loog youn apnnaye huay hein jaisay wohi sahe hai aur baqe saab ghalat.. aur kaafi programmes main bhee inhein promote kia ja raha hota hai ..

balich
aik dammm sahi,, hum log wohi jawab sunna chahte hein jo hamari marzi ka ho
aik din me aik prog dekh rahi thi about "larki ki marzi ki shadi"
they invited a lawyer and an aalim e deen,,, aur dono yeh rights bata rahe the k larki ya larke ko shadi k baare mei kitni mazhabi aur kanooni azaadi hai aur parents ko kya nahi karna chaiye
and an AMMA JII called gusse mei and said to the lady presenter "aap ne pasand ki shadi ki thi jo doosron ko yeh targeeb de rahi hein"



khair back to topic
mujhe yeh samajh nahi aati k yeh aalim wagera ko jab log contact karte hein apne maslon k hal k liye to yeh logon se kyun nahi puchte k kya aap ne zindagi mei kissi ka haq mara ?? kya aap ne koi galt kaam kiya ?? aik nazar apne gireban mei jhankiye aur dekhiye k aap ki mushkilat ki waja aap k kiye gae gunah to nahi ?????


ab jab mere paas time hota hai i try to watch these prog k pata chalta hai hamari poori kaum kidher ja rahi hai
uss din a hakeem sahab was telling abt a med for ppl who want to have a BOY

once i remember there was a prog jahan woh log aik MUFTI or AALIM E DEEN ko bulate the k log unn se apne masa'il ka hal puch sakein
aur Masha Allah se 8/10 log mufti sahab se apne hone waale bache k naam k liye mashware lete the





my point is
aik kaum jo pehle se itne jahil aur akal ki andhi ho uss ko "rasmi deen" k raste pe lagana kahan ki akalmandi hai
i agree inn channels pe bohot ache prog bhi aate hein but wot do u think inn mei se zyada kamyab prog konsa hoga
quran pak ki tafseer wala ya phir waza'if wala

i dont know abt this channel saheli
id love to see more prog of Dr naik coz ppl say a lottt of good things abt him,, par me ne ittefak se jo 2/3 prog dekhe mujhe unn ka tareeka bohot ajeeb sa laga
(thora sa doosron ko neecha dikhane wala)
ho sakta hai mujhe samajhne mei galti hui ho

u r talking abt BIDDAT
aur sab se zyada herat ki baat hai k hamare han majority "ehl e sunnat" ki hai
yani k woh log jo biddat pe chalne waalon ko kabhi kabhi islam se kharij kar dete hein,, hmm hamara insaaf kaun kare ga

SALL:

kissi bahar k bande ko galt kehna shayad zyada asaan hota hai

but see,,, yesterday my bro came back from pak and he s bought loads of cd/dvds including one of na'at (Qtv waale logon ki)
i know my brother well,, woh namaz nahi parhta to na'at sunn k konsa sawab mil jae ga

sall... ye aik baat jo mujhe shuru se ajeeb lagi hey... ab jese aap ne kaha hey k agar wo namaz nahi parhta to naa'at se kon sa sawab milay ga...

pata nahi kion mujhe ye baat ajeeb lagti hey... agar koi aik banda aik acha kaam nahi karta to kya wo koi doosra acha kaam bhi na karay...
namaz k farz hone ki behas se alag...
agar ab aik banda namaz nahi parhta to kya wo naa'at ya koi doosra acha kaam bhi na karay..
Naa'at ko shoq se sunna bhi mera khayal hey bohat achi baat hey... aor kya pata koi naa'at suntay suntay seedhay raastay pe aa jaye...

well sall... i m sure.. aap meri baat ka bura nahi maanain gi.. ye baat mere mind main kafi arsay se thi.. aor aap ki post to bus aik source bani hey...

i dont watch cable programmes... kion k mere ghar main cable hey e nahi...

wesay to main tv kam hi dekhta hon
aur abhi tak mainy tooo koi esaaa prg dekha nahi
han Qtv par jo Dr Zakir hussain ka prg ata hai wo to acha hai,,, baki ye baat bilkul theek hai k jab bartan khali ho to awaz karta hai,,,

buss yehi haal hamara hai hum andar say khali ho chukay hain,,, oooper opper sy ye daramy bazi chal rahi hai,,

aur naat wo bhi music k saath   aur uspar lo Subhan Allah bhi boltay bhai ye wqt to doob marny ka hota haiiii nakay Subhan Allah kahny ka,,,

you're rite Sall... but if you see Peace Channel its amazing... very influencing...
I must say that in prg Istakhara, they do istakhara for other people...
jabke istakhara banda apne liye sirf khud karsakta hai.... Hazrat Jabir( radhe Allahu anhu)farmatay hain ke Rasool(Peace be upon him)hum ko istkhara iss tarah (ehtmam se)sikhate the jaise koi Qura'n sharif ki surat sikhate the.
Aur agar aap woh dua parhe to uss clearly lafz aate hain ke "Ya Allah agar ye kam Meri duniya aur aakhrat ke liye behtar hain to..."
Then any one reciting this dua, is praying 4 himself not 4 others.
aur iss prg main log wahi bethe bethe istakhara karte hain... unhe jawab kese mila kia wo har sawal ke baad 2 mins sone keliye jate hain ke Allah ki taraf se koi jawab aaye... its just ridiculous... logo main itna common sense bhi nahi ke wo ye baat sochen apne masle bayan karne se pehle...

Doctor Sam:

sall... ye aik baat jo mujhe shuru se ajeeb lagi hey... ab jese aap ne kaha hey k agar wo namaz nahi parhta to naa'at se kon sa sawab milay ga...

pata nahi kion mujhe ye baat ajeeb lagti hey... agar koi aik banda aik acha kaam nahi karta to kya wo koi doosra acha kaam bhi na karay...
namaz k farz hone ki behas se alag...
agar ab aik banda namaz nahi parhta to kya wo naa'at ya koi doosra acha kaam bhi na karay..
Naa'at ko shoq se sunna bhi mera khayal hey bohat achi baat hey... aor kya pata koi naa'at suntay suntay seedhay raastay pe aa jaye...

well sall... i m sure.. aap meri baat ka bura nahi maanain gi.. ye baat mere mind main kafi arsay se thi.. aor aap ki post to bus aik source bani hey...

see yar,,, me ne yeh nahi kaha k naat sunna galt baat hai
me sirf itna keh rahi hu k farz poore kiye bager aap nafil parho,, iss mei kharabi koi nahi hai par its not logic
kya yeh ehsaas e gunah se peecha churane ka tareeka nahi hai ???

maqsad aik ache kaam se rokna nahi hai,, all i want to say is pehle zaroori kaam to kar lo
i read once,, farz poore kiye bager nafil (naat, of wazeefa wagera) pe zor rakhna aise hai jaise aap khet mei beej daale bager uss pe dawaai ka chirkao karo
one thing is sure aap k khet mei keere nahi honge,, par kheti bhi nahi hogi
its simple

i hope u understand my point...
ibadat ka matlab sirf apne dil ko khush karna nahi hota,, pehle Allah ki marzi poori karo phir apni



aap ki post ne hamara dil chooor choor kar daala
haaaaaae,, koi daktar ko samjhae,, hamare nazuk dil pe aise waar na kiya karein

javad:

wesay to main tv kam hi dekhta hon
aur abhi tak mainy tooo koi esaaa prg dekha nahi
han Qtv par jo Dr Zakir hussain ka prg ata hai wo to acha hai,,, baki ye baat bilkul theek hai k jab bartan khali ho to awaz karta hai,,,

buss yehi haal hamara hai hum andar say khali ho chukay hain,,, oooper opper sy ye daramy bazi chal rahi hai,,

aur naat wo bhi music k saath   aur uspar lo Subhan Allah bhi boltay bhai ye wqt to doob marny ka hota haiiii nakay Subhan Allah kahny ka,,,

naat music k saath kyun nahi ho sakti

Khushi_Khushi:

you're rite Sall... but if you see Peace Channel its amazing... very influencing...
I must say that in prg Istakhara, they do istakhara for other people...
jabke istakhara banda apne liye sirf khud karsakta hai.... Hazrat Jabir( radhe Allahu anhu)farmatay hain ke Rasool(Peace be upon him)hum ko istkhara iss tarah (ehtmam se)sikhate the jaise koi Qura'n sharif ki surat sikhate the.
Aur agar aap woh dua parhe to uss clearly lafz aate hain ke "Ya Allah agar ye kam Meri duniya aur aakhrat ke liye behtar hain to..."
Then any one reciting this dua, is praying 4 himself not 4 others.
aur iss prg main log wahi bethe bethe istakhara karte hain... unhe jawab kese mila kia wo har sawal ke baad 2 mins sone keliye jate hain ke Allah ki taraf se koi jawab aaye... its just ridiculous... logo main itna common sense bhi nahi ke wo ye baat sochen apne masle bayan karne se pehle...   

i never watched peace channel
baat sirf istkhare ki nahi yar,, its abt all these prog
okk i understand k kuch logon ko istakhara ka tareeka nahi ata,, ya unn mei khud se samajhne ki salahiyat nahi hai,, par yahan to sab k sab line mei lage hote hein

last yr khi mei bhi me ne dekha tha,,, there r big posters/banners (adverts) abt some molvi log jo istkhara karte hein
y dont they simply teach ppl wot does it mean,, and how to do it

Sall ye poster abhi tak lage hain....
you're rite,
actually logo main awareness paida karne ki zarorat hai....
specially religious awareness...
jo yahan na hone ke barabar hai...

SALL:

i dont know abt this channel saheli
id love to see more prog of Dr naik coz ppl say a lottt of good things abt him,, par me ne ittefak se jo 2/3 prog dekhe mujhe unn ka tareeka bohot ajeeb sa laga
(thora sa doosron ko neecha dikhane wala)
ho sakta hai mujhe samajhne mei galti hui ho

u r talking abt BIDDAT
aur sab se zyada herat ki baat hai k hamare han majority "ehl e sunnat" ki hai
yani k woh log jo biddat pe chalne waalon ko kabhi kabhi islam se kharij kar dete hein,, hmm hamara insaaf kaun kare ga

nahi i never felt this way k wo dosroon ko neechay dikhatay hein .. see more programmes .. u'll find him ..

nd for the bidat:
The Prophet (salallahoalaihewasalam) said "Whosoever introduces a new belief in our religion which contradicts with it is rejected." He also said "Beware of innovations, for every innovation (Kullu Bid'at) is misguidance."
He said :"the person who invents something new in islam or supports a Bidati (innovator in Religion) is entitled for the curse of Allah and the cure of Angels and also the curse of all human beings. Neither his Farz (commanded) nor his nafil (supererogatory) Ibadaat will be accepted."

the point is bidat leads to misguidance .. the one who is leading his life on it wht will u say k wo sahee muslaamaan hai? After Shirk .. Bidat is considered to be the biggest sin..

my post emphasis more on bidat coz sum of these programmes are contributing info which is actually not a part of islam but its a Bidat .. the point abt bidat is that it is alwayz considered and practised as a part of Islam and a Bidati usually thinks that he is doing everyhing right nd according to islam..

hmmm.....
bidat ka reason jahalat hoti hai
par agar aisi batein "islamic media" k thru logon tak pohonchein gi to jahil logon ka kya haal hoga

media is not in my hands .. ye alims , muftis wagira inhein roktay kyun nahi hein??

hmmmmmmmmm....
alim mufti wagera rok sakte hein

parrrr masla aik aur hai
media hamesha uss cheez k thru chalta hai jo log chahte hein,, koi prog/drama/movie/song tabhi famous hota hai jab woh logon ki pasand ka ho

iss type k religious progs bhi tabhi zyada famous hein coz ppl want to seee that
i started another topic "ary group" uss topic ka matlab yeh dekhna tha k hum logon ko apni hi zaat ka tazaad nazar aata hai ya nahi,,
but woh topic kissi ko samajh hi nahi aaya

galti to hamare apne andar hai
other day an aalim was saying
"jo so raha ho usse to jagaya ja sakta hai, par jo jaag raha ho usse kaise jagaya jae"