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oups,,, SERIOUS SECTION




han to hum keh rahe the k

our buzurg log find us 'badtameez, nafarmaan, na-ehl and etc etc'
i totaly agree to them
hum/me (this generation) hein hi kharab,, no doubt

hum kharab hein yeh maan liya,, par (98%) buzurg log yeh bhi kehte hein k woh khud bohot ache bohot shareef bohot naik apne baron ka adab karne waale the/hein
parents ki kya baat, apne neighbours k buzurgon ki bhi itnnniiiiiiiiii izzat karte the (well im sure u know the rest of list, i better stop here)
AGREEEE, TOTALY AGREE AGAIN


yeh bhi baat ho gai,,,
han to masla kya hai bhui,,,, janab masla yeh hai k

me manti hu k ache logon ki aulad buri aur bure logon ki aulad achi ho jati hai,, but obvisouly aisa kam kam cases mei hota hai
hum logon ki baar yeh kaise ho gaya k saaaaari buzurg generation farishta aur saaari jawaan generation (at least 70% of us) shetan ho gae











mujhe hansi aa rahi hai
apni post pe bhi aur jo comments milein ge unn pe bhi

Posted on 5/26/2006 8:17:50 PM

Sall g
mein ne 2 plays parhe hain
aik Antonchekhov ka hai us mein GEneration gap ka bataya tha
play ka naam tha
"the boy comes home"
that was v nice play
Actually 50 50 donon generationa ka qasoor ha na hum unhein samjahte hain na woh

Posted on 5/26/2006 8:28:30 PM

sorry H
me ne kabhi kissi russian writer ko nahi parta




hmm,,, dono ka kasoor hai
par prev generation ka zyada hua na,, kyun k woh bare hein,, experienced hein, samajhdar hein
oupss....

Posted on 5/26/2006 8:31:16 PM

its ok dear

HAan yaar un ka kuch ziada hai
ager wo chahein tu hamein samjah sakte ahin lekin nahi g

Posted on 5/26/2006 8:46:25 PM

hum ne to mazak kiya tha
aap to free hi ho gaeen



yar waise agar baron se koi galti ho bhi gai hai to zaroori hai k hum unn ki galti ko dohra'ain ???
i guess after 17/18 sab mei ache bure ki pehchan aa jani chaiye
zidddddddd basss zid
aise jaise dono gerenations k beech mei jung hai

Posted on 5/27/2006 11:46:52 AM

oay Sall
itni aqalmandoon wali baatin na kar

u r rite yaar bande ko acha bura khud pata chal jata hai

Posted on 5/27/2006 1:08:28 PM

Chall solly i cant agree with you


i think we are better thn em!!!


asal main wo thud yahi chahtay hain k
ITNI HIMMAT UN MAIN KION NAHIN THI,
K APNAY BZURGON KO "NA" kar saktay,
un ko unki ghalat bat par rok saktay,
ya phil apni raey day patay.



meri aksar behs ho jati hay,
with papa, bro, sis, etc
and hamecha un logon ko hi "chup" hona parhta hay.



un ki nazar main chahay ham badtameez hon
but hain to nahin na
unki nazar main "badtameez" wo hota hay jo
"saaf-goh ho"...to mujhe badtameez hona manzor hay but
doghla-pan dikhana nahin

so mujhe bohat lucky feel hota hay k
m NOT 1 of em!


and main bohat khush hungi agar
kal ko mere kidz bi
itnay saaf-goh hoey to
coz doghlay log zaher lagtay hain mujhe


Posted on 5/27/2006 8:01:30 PM

sorry..agar kisi ko yahan mera reply karna bura lagay to!! bt after some1 told me abt ths topic..n i read it..i cudnt stay away..n btw sall..nice topic for discussion(as alwz)

sall:
hum logon ki baar yeh kaise ho gaya k saaaaari buzurg generation farishta aur saaari jawaan generation (at least 70% of us) shetan ho gae


iss mein generation gap kia hai?!!
generation gap se matlab views ka diff hona hai!!
do u mean to discuss tht!!
app ka qs?s jis ko app nay main sawal banaya hai..generation gap say related hai he nahin literally!!

Posted on 5/27/2006 11:31:49 PM

its a natural phenomena that will carry on when we bcome parents.

Posted on 5/28/2006 1:34:19 AM


rapunzel:
oay Sall
itni aqalmandoon wali baatin na kar

deevanon ki si na baat kare
to aur kare deevaana kya
adaab arz hai




ßãrïsh:
Chall solly i cant agree with you


i think we are better thn em!!!


asal main wo thud yahi chahtay hain k
ITNI HIMMAT UN MAIN KION NAHIN THI,
K APNAY BZURGON KO "NA" kar saktay,
un ko unki ghalat bat par rok saktay,
ya phil apni raey day patay.



meri aksar behs ho jati hay,
with papa, bro, sis, etc
and hamecha un logon ko hi "chup" hona parhta hay.



un ki nazar main chahay ham badtameez hon
but hain to nahin na
unki nazar main "badtameez" wo hota hay jo
"saaf-goh ho"...to mujhe badtameez hona manzor hay but
doghla-pan dikhana nahin

so mujhe bohat lucky feel hota hay k
m NOT 1 of em!


and main bohat khush hungi agar
kal ko mere kidz bi
itnay saaf-goh hoey to
coz doghlay log zaher lagtay hain mujhe

balich itna tappoooo kahe ko rey

well i wont say that u r all wrong,, all i want to say is
woh log galti pe the, shayad abhi bhi hein,,, there was a time (hmm even now) mujhe gussa aata tha k yeh log akhir kya karte hein aur kya chahte hein
but yarr ab jo ho chuka hai it cant b changed,,,
saaf-go hone mei koi burai nahi,,, bure ko bura kehna galt nahi hai

but
burai ko khatam karna aur usse "recycle" na karna zyada behtar hai
jo hamare bare kar chuke hein woh ab hum na karein,,
me ne yeh dekha hai k woh log humein sahi jante hue bhi ab apni baat se hut nahi sakte,,, woh apni adat se majboor hein,, iss liye kehte hein k gussa aur zidd (takabur) insaan ko bohot kharab karta hai

mere nazdeek kissi galti ko point out karne ka matlab hota hai k
"seeee, this has been done by others,, dont repeat it and try to change it in present and in futur coz u cant change the past"

a last thing
we can b saaf-go without being badtameez,, i myself is working on it, mushkil hai par ab samajh aane lagi hai
ab me samajhti hu k kai baar meri baat sahi hoti hai par 'tone' galt hoti hai

Posted on 5/28/2006 10:44:02 AM

kash_beauty:
sall:
hum logon ki baar yeh kaise ho gaya k saaaaari buzurg generation farishta aur saaari jawaan generation (at least 70% of us) shetan ho gae


iss mein generation gap kia hai?!!
generation gap se matlab views ka diff hona hai!!
do u mean to discuss tht!!
app ka qs?s jis ko app nay main sawal banaya hai..generation gap say related hai he nahin literally!!

humein aap ka reply jarna bohot bura laga
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,,, mera dil band na ho jaaaaae



kajjuuuuuuuuu



yar dekho
generation GAP to hai, aur mera khyal hai k hona bhi chaiye,, gap aur view ka fark nahi hoga to koi changes nahi a'ain gi koi behtari nahi hogi
its not something negative

par hamare han yeh gap kuch ajeeb sa hai
as i said our buzurg log 'shayad' apna aap kuch zyada barha charha k peish karte hein,, aur unn ki yehi aadat hum logon mei bhi hai
yeh hai generated GUP jo k hamare han zyada hai
hehehheee...

bass itna discuss karna hai k view ka fark hona apni jaga
par aik bakaida se jung chiri lagti hai,, iss ka reason kya hai,, kyun hamare buzurg apni aulad ko apne raste pe nahi laga sake ???
i called it generation gap coz its wot THEY call it

Posted on 5/28/2006 10:59:32 AM

BadShaH1:
its a natural phenomena that will carry on when we bcome parents.

aap k mu mei

i already said generation gap koi galt cheez nahi hai
par agar changes negative hone lagein to yahan kuch karne ki zaroorat hai
we need to know kya galti prev generation se hui jo ab humein atleast mujhe nahi karni

Posted on 5/28/2006 11:02:00 AM

SALL:

yar dekho
generation GAP to hai, aur mera khyal hai k hona bhi chaiye,, gap aur view ka fark nahi hoga to koi changes nahi a'ain gi koi behtari nahi hogi
its not something negative


u dont think its -tive!neither do i!! bt jab generation gapp ki baat aati hai to 95% loag iss ko -tive sense mein he letay hein!! thts also an issue jis ki wajah say generation gap ka resolve hona mushkil hai

sall:


par hamare han yeh gap kuch ajeeb sa hai
as i said our buzurg log 'shayad' apna aap kuch zyada barha charha k peish karte hein,, aur unn ki yehi aadat hum logon mei bhi hai


majority does ths!!..thts a fact!! bardha chardha kar sirf hamary he baray nahin.. iss duniya ka her insaan baat karta hai..kyun!!?? coz thy wanna be ryt!! her insaan ki koshish hoti hai k woh apni baat sahi sabit kar sakay!! issliye kabhi kabhi reality say hat jatay hein woh msg convey kartay kartay..like u said hamaray culture mein!! its more than anywhere else!! kyun?!!? munafkaat hum sab mein kut kuttttttt kar bhari hui hai jo sach hota hai woh kehtay hue pait mein dard hota hai hamary!! so hum loag woh kehtay hein jo hamay lagta hai k sahi hai beshq sachai say kitna he dour ho!! hamary baron or hamari example aisay lay lo k

i was doin a job somewhere! n one of my collegue was pakistani!! she was a teacher and was teachin english to arab childern!! u knw ..sometimes whn u hve to communicate u hve to speak their language as well(i.e.arabic)so she said something! as she wasnt good @ arabic so 1 of the student just went upto her n said tht she was wrong!the proper sentence is this! she got soo pissed offf..she said he is not the teacher she is..n she knwz better than him no matter wht he says!

she was young!whn she cudnt take a criticism from a child how do u expect our elders(who spend most of their life being ruled by their elders n thn ruling our 18 or 20 yrz of life)to take criticism by us!!No,thy cant do it evn if thy want to..it will hurt their ego
not evry parent is like ths!!sometimes talking does help...evn if u hear thm screaming tht u r betameez n all tht stuff..bt after few talks things start turning better!! bt u knw!! in generation gap its 50% 50% fault of both the generations! our elders think thy r alwz ryt n our youngsters think thy "y bother wid old ppl,i wud eventually do wht i want to"
now its not funny!! bt thts the truth!!we call thm "puranay zamanay k loag" .. u knw wht..agar hamary baray ghalt hein to hum loag bhi ghalt hein!! kyunk hum loag baat karnay k bajay lartay hein un say!! things dont change widin secs of talk!! it takes time!! bt hamari generation zara besabri hai!! issliye woh chahtay hein k un nay baat ki nahin k un k parents maan jaien ek dam say!! thts not goin to happen!!u knw most of the time elders r ryt abt stuff!!u cant deny tht!! life experiences teaches thm a lot!! bt sometimes whn thy r wrong..instead of us jst tryin to proff thm rong..we shud talk to em n tell em tht now its diff!! ths is wht is suppose to be done now!! n widin time evrything will fall into its ryt place!!
changes happen whn u r patient abt it!!

like thy say "haste makes waste" so thts wht has been happening

Posted on 5/28/2006 2:11:26 PM

well... main ne koshish ki hey k doosray comments pehle parhoon....

mujhe ye samajh nahi a rahi k aakhir ismain masla kya hey... ho sakta hey main ne baat theek tarah se samjhi na ho..

abhi main ne subha Amjad Islam Amjad ki is topic pe guftagu suni hey...aor aik nazm bhi sunai unhon ne... Kisi ko parhne ka ittefaaq ho to zaroor parhay..
ALI ZEESHAN K LIYE AIK NAZM

generation gap ka matlab jo meri samajh main aata hey wo ye k bohat c baatain aisi hain ho hum apne elders se frankly nahi kar saktay ya bohat c baatain un ko samjha nahi saktay...
aor ye waqai aik natural baat hey...

aor aik baat jo bazurgon k hawalay se main kahoon.. hamaray elders ya bazurg jo bhi kehtay hain... ab baat ye hey k hum un ko badal nahi saktay... na un se behas kar saktay hain k wo ghalat hain aor i must say wo zyada ghalat nahi hain...

ye baat main ne achi tarah feel ki hey k VALUES jo hamaray elders main thien... hum logon main kamm hain... agar wo koi baat kartay hain to uski koi na koi base zaroor hey...

aor yun bhi jese hum un ki bohat baaton se agree nahi kar saktay ... wo bhi nahi kartay...


Posted on 5/28/2006 3:35:12 PM

generation gap technology advancement tak tu theek hai... baki values main kesa gap?? meri apne mom dad se buhut achi understanding hai, they are like my friends I can discuss all my probs with them, even my nano is my sweetest friend, she is abt 62 years old.... I feel I'm nothing without them.... I dont feel any generation gap b/w us....

Posted on 6/1/2006 9:12:02 PM

kajjuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

khud ko sach sabit karna tab theek hai jab k aap wakai SACH ho,, otherwise i consider it as a LIE,, chahe koi bhi ho :)
see in ur example,, its exactly wot our parents do.. aur me yehi kehna chah rahi hu k agar bachpan se yeh tarbiyat mile k jhoot pe arr jao to wot do u expect from ur children k woh bare ho k kya reer maar lein ge ??

u r rite,,, best solution is to discuss pbs,,
galti hum mei bhi hai and i already said it,, magar ab mujhe shayad iss liye zyada clearly samajh aane lagi hai coz imma mother myself,, agar me apne bachon ko koi baat bachpan se sikhau gi nahi,, agar me unhein itna confidence nahi du k woh galt ko galt keh sakein aur sach pe kayam rahein to kaise maloom hoga unhein,,
ya to woh ehsas e kamtari ka shikar honge ya phir ehsas e bartari ka (which is quite the same thing)

u said most of the time parents are right,, han shayd yeh baat theek ho,, but masla yeh hai k they dont even know y did they take this or that decision,, if they could explain clearly to shayd bachon ko samajh aa jae,, par nahi,, they only say a word "do it coz im saying it"


galti dono generations mei hai
par hamare buzurg ab aisi age mei hein k shayad unhein apni galti samajh bhi nahi aae gi,, so unn se insist karna behes karna shayad fazool ho,, par yeh matlab bhi nahi k sab bhool k beth ja'ain hum
agar koi galti repeat nahi karni to usse samajhna zarooori hai,, and thats the reason of this topic

kaju yarrr,, itna serious batein nahi kiya karo

Posted on 6/3/2006 11:56:06 AM

daktarrrr
i didnt read that poem but tell me how many parnets are able to explain things to their children in such way ??
generation gap hona natural hai,, no doubt

but seeee,, u said jo values hamare buzurgon mei thi woh hum mei nahi hai
read my post again,, this is one of the point
howcome our parents were unable to "tranfer" their values to next generation


kahin na kahin koi galti hui haiii
unn ki harr baat k peeche koi raeson, koi base hai par woh BASE kya hai ??
me shayad ab iss age mei hu k khud se batein samajh saku,, but dont forget we all ve been thru an age jab bohot se jawab chaiye hote hein aur tab koi samjhane waala nahi hota..


mera khyal mei sab se bara masla yeh hai k
our buzurg and even hum log yeh bhool jate hein k hum khud konsi age se guzre hein,, we alll forget that hum log bhi kabhi 10/15/20 saal k the,,,, tab hamare zehn mei jo batein hoti thi woh hamare bachon k zehn mei bhi hongi..... jo mushkil hum pe guzri wohi mushkil bachon pe bhi guzar rahi hogi


hum ab bare ho gae,, we ve more experience and we understnad things better (well not always) par hum yehi baat aik bache se kaise expect kar sakte hein jisse koi experience nahi hai
ab me apne parents ki kuch batein samajhne lagi hu,,, par aaj se 5/10 yrs pehle agar me samajh nahi sakti thi to iss mei mera kya kasoor tha ?????????
they never explained me anything
basss sirf itni si baat hai

Posted on 6/3/2006 12:06:14 PM

Khushi_Khushi:
generation gap technology advancement tak tu theek hai... baki values main kesa gap?? meri apne mom dad se buhut achi understanding hai, they are like my friends I can discuss all my probs with them, even my nano is my sweetest friend, she is abt 62 years old.... I feel I'm nothing without them.... I dont feel any generation gap b/w us....

khushiii khushiii,, hamesha aise hi khush raho

baat aap ki ya meri nahi hai
baat aik mulk aur kaum ki hai,,, have a look around u and u ll get the answer k kaisa GAP

Posted on 6/3/2006 12:07:42 PM

thanks Sall....

hummm may be you're rite...

Posted on 6/3/2006 11:52:58 PM

hmm nice topic to discuss
well u r right sall..i hear ma bazurg sayin "hum to yeh hoa karte the, woh..aor aaj kal ke bache uff"

hum logon ke naseeb mein hi tha shetaan hona or farishton ko tang karna lol

Posted on 6/5/2006 2:48:09 PM

DG
lets try not to reproduce the same situation for our coming generation

Posted on 6/18/2006 1:41:16 PM