Valentines....

Aasera said:

sis friends ko wish karna kaisay haram ho gaya?

and what is it that you are wishing friends?
and who are those friends? I don't mean you as you it rather general.

Aasera said:

Shadiyon par MAHDNI MAIYON DAnce etc yah sab bi to hinduana rasmain hain...in par koi topic kion nahin banta??? shadiyan to sara saal hoti rahti hain.. lol

+ agar na-mahram ko valentine wish karna "ghalat" hay to kia waisay hi main FRIENDS ( chalain isi forum ko lay lain) yahan sab HUGS send kartay hain... "i love you" boltay hain etc... tab to yah bi usi line main ata hay na..or not? us tarha to PM main na-mahram say bat karna bi haram hay...msn par bi... kahin bi TANHAI main bat karna etc

agreed just because everybody is doing a haram, it doesn't become halal.

Aasera said:

islam main GIFTS dainay ko bola gaya hay...kay is say "PYAR BARHTA HAY"
so agar ham "fazol" things par APNAY liyay paisay kharch kar saktay hain to saal main aik din kisi ko gift day diya to mujhe to koi burai nahin nazar ati is main.

Main to manati hon...and manati rahongi... i love to give gifts , flowerz and cards 2 my dear sisterz.. and kuch nahin to WISH zaror karongi.

Now who said you can't give gifts and well wishes to your sisters? and then mhy valentine's day? The spirit of valentine is not about that kind of affection.

Aasera said:

" Bat sirf itni hay kay KOI bi din ho, HAD main rah kar manao to koi burai nahin,

disagree
I respect everybody's days of celebration but don't want to follow anybody's days or celebrations. There is no question of limits or out-of-limits there. The reason we have our own festivities and etiquettes of celebrating those are to give us our own identity.

Aasera said:

but agar EID ko bi GHALAT tarikay say manao gey to is say EID HARAM nahin ho jaey gi,.. GHALTI AAP KI HOGI."

agreed

Aasera said:

( uff mujhe neend a rahi hay )

you sound so much like Saal, I mean Aeysha

i am fully agree with the people who are against celebrating Valentine's day.
i think the media is responsible for it.

Doctor Sam said:

~Fragi~ said:

love ko express karna bura nahi

kisi khas din per bhi express karna bura nahi

Ijtimai taur per express karna b bura nahi

aur khas ker gifts dena b hargiz bura nahi

tu valentines day manana b bura nahi


haan per cheap harkatien karna,stupid kaam karna , kissi ko tung karna hargiz theek nahi

there is no Logic for celebrating valentines day.. for us, There Must be No logic... it doesnt belong to US...

Love kee koi country religion boundary nahi hoti, aap is ko dosroon ko follow karney k bajaye apney hisab sey mana lo apney hisab sey celeberate kar lo

Smooth_daddy said:

Doctor Sam said:

WHAT WE CAN DO

hold your ground, resist temptations.

its for one's own... and for others?

Smooth_daddy said:

~Fragi~ said:

love ko express karna bura nahi

kisi khas din per bhi express karna bura nahi

Ijtimai taur per express karna b bura nahi

aur khas ker gifts dena b hargiz bura nahi

tu valentines day manana b bura nahi


haan per cheap harkatien karna,stupid kaam karna , kissi ko tung karna hargiz theek nahi

your right fragi, expressing your love to your spouse is not wrong. But it is wrong for people to show it to non-mehrams, if we are believers in its fullest sense.

Observence of this day encourages illicit relations and promotes indecency. Above all, it is part of christian renaissance - tracing roots to roman christian origin.

how many people Express their love to their spouse on Valentines day...........????????
I dont think they need that.. V day is ATTRACTION for youth. Expression of love, exchange of gifts , these things matters for Young generation..

HOW WE CAN SATISFAY OURSELVES , BY THESE POINT...

Smooth_daddy said:

my question is, what are our roots, our identity, our heritage, our customs, I do not mean paki, I mean Muslim

This is the Point... This is what i want people to think about...

People have logics for celebration of V day. But the point is.. IT DOES NOT BELONG TO US..its not part of our customs and heritage...

If we are ALSO celebrating the day, what and where is the difference.. Baat shayad choti c hai, lekin itni bhi nahi...

Fairl_Girl said:

mohabat ka din hai to mohabat to hum kisi na kisi se kartay hi hai kam se kam mom dad to huwe

this day is not meant for Love for parents siblings relatives etc...
It was clearly the love between boy and Girl. St Valentines arranged marriages and this was his work jis k liye ye din manaya jata hai...

We have our own logucs to celebrate the day it any way

~Fragi~ said:

Doctor Sam said:

~Fragi~ said:

love ko express karna bura nahi

kisi khas din per bhi express karna bura nahi

Ijtimai taur per express karna b bura nahi

aur khas ker gifts dena b hargiz bura nahi

tu valentines day manana b bura nahi


haan per cheap harkatien karna,stupid kaam karna , kissi ko tung karna hargiz theek nahi

there is no Logic for celebrating valentines day.. for us, There Must be No logic... it doesnt belong to US...

Love kee koi country religion boundary nahi hoti, aap is ko dosroon ko follow karney k bajaye apney hisab sey mana lo apney hisab sey celeberate kar lo

so we can also celebrate christmas deewali holi etc ... un ko follow karne k bajaye apnay style se manaya ja sakta hai... KYA HARJ HAI...

I may not be that strong MUSLIM but i strongly beleive , Religion is most important in Life.. and we have to set EVERYTHING according to it.

Aasera said:

sis friends ko wish karna kaisay haram ho gaya?

yarrr kia na sab haath dho kar is din kay pichay parh jatay hain har saal

Shadiyon par MAHDNI MAIYON DAnce etc yah sab bi to hinduana rasmain hain...in par koi topic kion nahin banta??? shadiyan to sara saal hoti rahti hain.. lol

+ agar na-mahram ko valentine wish karna "ghalat" hay to kia waisay hi main FRIENDS ( chalain isi forum ko lay lain) yahan sab HUGS send kartay hain... "i love you" boltay hain etc... tab to yah bi usi line main ata hay na..or not? us tarha to PM main na-mahram say bat karna bi haram hay...msn par bi... kahin bi TANHAI main bat karna etc

islam main GIFTS dainay ko bola gaya hay...kay is say "PYAR BARHTA HAY"
so agar ham "fazol" things par APNAY liyay paisay kharch kar saktay hain to saal main aik din kisi ko gift day diya to mujhe to koi burai nahin nazar ati is main.

Main to manati hon...and manati rahongi... i love to give gifts , flowerz and cards 2 my dear sisterz.. and kuch nahin to WISH zaror karongi.

" Bat sirf itni hay kay KOI bi din ho, HAD main rah kar manao to koi burai nahin, but agar EID ko bi GHALAT tarikay say manao gey to is say EID HARAM nahin ho jaey gi,.. GHALTI AAP KI HOGI."

Behna...
Friends ko wish karna Kese haraam ho sakta hai... But Valentines day jistarah celebrate kiya jata hai, ustarah FRIENDS ko wish karna to theek nahi ho sakta. I m talking about grl frnds and boys frnds...
Valentines day ka CONCEPT "COUPLES" k liye hai. as i already said... and what is happening now k Hamari youth is crazy about it... aor bohat ghalat cheezain ho rahi hain...

aor isi waja say i want people to realize the DIFFERENCE. Yaar agar hath dho k peechay nahi parain gay na to Allah na karay, Pakistan ka haal kuch acha nahi hone wala.

Valentines day is being celebrated as its part of our Culture. larkay larkiyan....

aor jo baatain aap ne point out karni hain, ofcourse wo bhi ghalat hai... and C atleast we have to point out what is WRONG...

my purpose was to tell people k Just think the origin and decide...

Doctor Sam said:

~Fragi~ said:

Doctor Sam said:

~Fragi~ said:

love ko express karna bura nahi

kisi khas din per bhi express karna bura nahi

Ijtimai taur per express karna b bura nahi

aur khas ker gifts dena b hargiz bura nahi

tu valentines day manana b bura nahi


haan per cheap harkatien karna,stupid kaam karna , kissi ko tung karna hargiz theek nahi

there is no Logic for celebrating valentines day.. for us, There Must be No logic... it doesnt belong to US...

Love kee koi country religion boundary nahi hoti, aap is ko dosroon ko follow karney k bajaye apney hisab sey mana lo apney hisab sey celeberate kar lo

so we can also celebrate christmas deewali holi etc ... un ko follow karne k bajaye apnay style se manaya ja sakta hai... KYA HARJ HAI...

I may not be that strong MUSLIM but i strongly beleive , Religion is most important in Life.. and we have to set EVERYTHING according to it.

i agree but woh religios festivals hain aur yeh us sey hut k hain

kya hut k hain.. kya ye aisa event hai jo sab religions k liye hai

Doctor Sam said:

do u beleive in celebrating valentines day.?

last year, i made a topic.. just wanted to convey my thought...

Celebrating this day means Following Saint valentine.. do we have to follow him?

fazooliat hai

Doctor Sam said:

kya hut k hain.. kya ye aisa event hai jo sab religions k liye hai

MOHABAT AMAN HAI ...

MOHABAT ALAMGIRIAT HAI


MOHABAT INAM HAI KHUDA KA

i dont celebrate Valentine's day but jo karte hein karein..

~Fragi~ said:

Doctor Sam said:

kya hut k hain.. kya ye aisa event hai jo sab religions k liye hai

MOHABAT AMAN HAI ...

MOHABAT ALAMGIRIAT HAI


MOHABAT INAM HAI KHUDA KA

kis mohabbat ki baat kar rahay hain...

Mind it, V day ka taluq filmi love k sath hai. aor ye ooper walay dialogue yahan pooray nahi utartay

I agree

Smooth_daddy said:

and what is it that you are wishing friends?
and who are those friends? I don't mean you as you it rather general.

sachi bat to yah hay mainay friends ko kabi wish hi nahin kia v day hehe... coz firend beshak girl ho mujhe wish karna AJEEB lagta hay
but sisterz ko karti hon
and wish karnay kay pichay yahi bat hoti hay kay jaisay VALENTINE kisi say itni mohabbat karta tha...
utna pyar mujhe tum logon say hay.. :)

U know Sd bro,... bat sirf yah hay kay.. ham muslims hain... but ziada tar gher muslims countries main hi ISLAMIC tarikay daikhnay ko miltay hain...jinka hoqum ham muslims ko hay.. jaisay... RISHWAT kam li, di jati hay... unchi nichi zaat... rich poor ppl main diff etc..
to dusray logon ki ACHI batain apnanay say mujhe kuch ghalat feel nahin hota.

Smooth_daddy said:

Now who said you can't give gifts and well wishes to your sisters? and then mhy valentine's day? The spirit of valentine is not about that kind of affection.

kisi nay bat ki thi PAISA zaya karnay ki is topic main..thats y mainay gifts ki bat ki.

and sisterz ko is liyay coz jab ham nay start kia tha yah day manana ...us time we didn´t knew kay is ki history kiya hay... ppl told us... k you can wish anybody.. and i liked it.. and ham sara din saath guzartien... ghomtien.. chotay motay gifts daitien... and ab time nahin milta saath mananay ka.. coz ab saath nahin rahtien ham...but wish kar kay old dayz ki yadain dohra laiti hain ham.
Life itni bz ho gai hay kay... sachi main aik ghar main bi rahtay hoay itnay din guzar jatay hain HAAL pochay hoay.
waisay jo ham karti hain kia mujhe uska GUNAH milay ga? i dont think so.

Smooth_daddy said:

Aasera said:

" Bat sirf itni hay kay KOI bi din ho, HAD main rah kar manao to koi burai nahin,

disagree
I respect everybody's days of celebration but don't want to follow anybody's days or celebrations. There is no question of limits or out-of-limits there. The reason we have our own festivities and etiquettes of celebrating those are to give us our own identity.





you sound so much like Saal, I mean Aeysha

i do? :D gud


i got your point ... but hamari identity kia hay?
there are lots oph events jin main islam kay naam par logon ko spec poor ppl ko musibat parhi hoti hay pak main. Islam nahin kahta ... but hamara culture..


Sami aap ka bi reply read kiya mainay
mujhe pata hay aap log kiya kahna chahtay hain...but bat sirf Vday ki nahin hay na...
jo log Vday par ghalat harkatain kartay hain... wo aam days main bi kartay hon gey... bat sirf itni hay yah kay Vday par SAMNAY hota hay... baki pora year CHUP kar.
Is kay ilawa Pak main kia kuch hota hay.. wo to aap sab ko hi malom hay   

anywayz ppl main to chali ab.. baki batain next Vday kay topic main hon gien lol