hehhehehehee...
apni gali mei jaane se koi roke ga nahi naaa
issl iye na sofffiii
samjha karooo
soffii samjha karooo

aap to hein yahan zamane se

translate

aik dammmm galt

tum aur adiii france kab aae bhala

haan na naaaa queeennnu
bacha bhi to mera hai naaaaa
abhi se sikhana parta hai
khekeekehkeehkehekeeee..




adii k bache
kya takleef ho rahi hai
hum aap k peeche apna doggy choorr dein ge
phir woh pakre ga aap ko

just back to home
typing this msg
and thinking abt having some yummmmm yum café
with some yummm yummmm cheez
and giving a yummm yummm kisssssyyy to meeenuu ka bacchaaa
daal daal kachaaaa
muaahhhhhh !!!

ohhh han,,
sab se asaaan
masjid mie elaan karwa do

just imagine
k agar kuch years pehle koi gum hota to tum sab se pehle kya karte
i mean jab e mail aur mob nahi the

keh dooooooo zaraaaaaaaa
yeh pyaar hai
yeh pyaarr haaaaiiiiiii


luvvv that song

jiss k mu mei daant nahi matlab k hum uss k daant pehle se tor chuke hein
hehehhehhheheheheee...



sahelii saheeellliiiiiiii
areyy yar suna to aisa hi hai,, but u r rite it cant b me,, coz yeh to mazak tha,,, im not dip at all



stoooooopiddddddddd
tum to dekhnaaa aik dammm saruuuu sarial budhe hoge kuch saal baad

hmmmmm,,
koi baat nahi



par hum ne kar liyaaaaaaaaaaa





konsa sab se theek hai ??

typing this msg

and now,,,
im going to loggggg out

meri beemari ka sunnn k bohot hasni aa rahi hai saabb koooooo




ab jiss ne nikale na daaanttt
tooooooooooo
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Hadees
(i know its definition but koi spelling ki galati bhi ho gai to meri khair nahi phir )


S

stariz said:

As'Salamu'Alaikum wr.wb.

aray aray Zeshan... mera bhaii
itna gusa nahi
oski samjh ma agaya ha

aur yaar SALL questions kar rahi ha iska ya matlab nahi ka woh nahi janti... woh bhe janti hai bas is liye bhe kar rahi ha ka agar ya na karti toa koi aur karta

aur koi aur karta toa pata nahi kitni deer ma karta

wasa SALL ko ma janta ho
woh aur baat hai ya mujhay nahi pechan pai
Was'Salam...

ws salam
im dont think if i know u

ZEESHANAHMED said:

Assalam o Alaikum,
stariz yeh baat nahi hai, jo aap samajh rahay hain. infact mujhay maloom hai SALL yeh sab samajhti hain, par is tarah unkay in sawalaat say non muslims hi nahi muslims main bhi misconception create ho sakti hai jaisa kay main nay kae jaghoon par point out kia hai hai she is misleading the readerers of the forum, and that should not be allowed. ok.

Allah Hafiz.

misleading
i only want ppl to ask few questions to themselves
and stop being LEADED by few ppl instead of Quran

waise bhi i ve HEARD muslim ka imaan bohot mazboot hota hai,, how can they b misssssleaaded

ZEESHANAHMED said:

Here again you are misleading all the readers, pehli baat tu yeh kay stariz nay kisi baat may “mard kay ghar” ya “baap kay ghar” ki baat nahi ki, unhoon nay sirf aik traditional say way main ghar say muraad “family” li hai and you know it very well and can be easily seen from his conversation. And secondly, can you please tell me what is the meaning of “HOME”? Home tu kehtay usay hain jahaan kuch relations hotay hain wife, husband, children, father, mother, sisters, brothers and it cant be confined to just a COUPLE, nor a building. Aurat aik ghar se doosray ghar main jati hai, aur usay wo apna ghar hi kehti aur samajhti hai, not his parents’ or husband’s home. And note it again aap baar baar Pakistan ka naam le kar isay badnaam karnay ki koshish kar rahi hain. Aur jin “COUPLES” aur “HOMES” ki aap baat kar rahi hain na tu yeh main, aap aur sabhi jantay hain kay un ki boundaries har teesray din toot kar kisi aur se ja milti hain. Jabkay Pakistan main most HOMES aik baar bantay hain, kabhi na tootnay kay liye, remember it. Sorry if I am going a little harsh, majboori hai.

being a stooopid im allowed to say things out of topic
U R NOT


hmmmmmmmmmm,,,
u r rite abt yahan couples aur families bohot jald toot jati hein,,, par this is not the case with everyone believe me,,
yahan bohot si ACHI fam abhi bhi hein exactly like in pak

ehemm,, jahan tak paki fam ki baat hai to,, u r rite
they prefer to kill (sometimes litteraly) than leave
khekehekheekhekeekee..
(oupss,, sorry that was a joke,,, ignore it)

ZEESHANAHMED said:

wahaan families parents kay sath nahi rehti hain, its correct, but can you answer why? Parents kahaan jatay hain unkay? You and me very well know that wo unhain kahaan chor aatay hain. Or at least alag tu rakhtay hain. Kia wo unkay right unhain de rahay hain aur apni duties ada kar rahay hain? Jab parents old ho jatay hain tabhi tu unhain aulad ki zaroorat hoti hai, aur wo unsay door apnay “HOME” main magan hotay hain, aur jis ko aap so proudly describe kar rahi hai, its pity. Aur aisa nahi hota tu aap ka yeh argument tu completely fallacious hai.

i only told a fact,, aap ko aise kyun laga that im PROUDLY saying it

(hmmm,, i may say something more but OUT OF TOPIC ho jae ga na)

ZEESHANAHMED said:

SALL said:

a last thing jo abhi mere zehn mei i hai,,,,,,,,
i ve heard muslim mard "non muslims aurat" se nahi sirf ehl e kitab se shadi kar sakte hein
we all know that Bible, Evangile and (probably) Torah are modified by man
to kya aisi shadi inn conditions mei bhi jaiz hai ???
(if u had enuff just leme know, coz my questions never end )

mera khyal tha aap nay parha hoga likin aap nay tu sirf suna hai, yeh tu hamari Holy Book Al-Quran main likha hai, aur aap nay phir bhi suna hai, mera khyal hai ab aap ko parh bhi lena chahiye. Aur yeh kay muslim woman non muslim man say shadi nahi kar sakti yeh bhi Quran main hi hai.
Waisay yeh baat Allah ko bhi maloom hai kay yeh books change kar di gaeen hain, kyun kia aap ka khyal hai Allah ko nahi maloom hoga aur phir bhi Allah nay ijazat di hai. Islam humain yeh sikhata hai kay hum aisai batoon kay positive meanings lain na kay negative. Yahaan Ahl-e-Kitab is liye kaha gya takay isay mushrikeen aur mulhideen say alag kya jaey jo log Allah kay sath shreek thehratay hain ya Allah ko accept karnay ko hi tayyar nahi. Ahl e Kitab yani true christian and jews at least Allah ko mantay tu hain, Allah ki ibadat tu kartay hain.

Jo samajhna chahtay hain wo baghair kisi kay samjhaye bhi samajh saktay hain aur jin logoon kay diloon par Allah nay muhar laga di hai unko kon samjha sakta hai.

God bless you.
Allah Hafiz.

ya Khuda,,
aap koi univ prof ho kya,, who s correcting my examination paper ??

for ur kind information me ne parha hi hai,, sirf typing karne mei i didnt choose rite words
Allah ka shukar hai me ne Quran pak parha hua hai,, with translation,, and now im try to read and UNDERSTAND it tafseer too
but as i already said mujhe sab kuch hifz nahi hai,,, me silly thing


aap ko Masha Allah bohot zyada knowledge hai,, can u plz tell me Ehl e Kitaab kaun log hein ??
aur Allah ki kitabein kitni hein aur yeh bhi k unn mei se kitni ka zikr Quran pak mei aaya hai ????
(waiting for ur answer)


dil pe kiss k mohr hai yeh to koi nahi janta
han dil pe mohr kyun aur kab lagti hai yeh baat samajhne ki hai,, but im sure u know better than me


hmmm,, at the end,, thnx again for ur posts
may i ask u one question,, just one plz
aap ki arrogance ka reason aap ki knowledge hai ya phir it s ur nature ??

ZEESHANAHMED said:

SALL said:

stariz said:

and all I know it's that things based on IMAN and if our IMAN is powerful then nobody can take over nor even love. Keep in mind ALLAH and HIS RASOOL (SAW) come first then later our PARENTS and LOVE

bilkulllll sahi,, aik dammm sahi
but plz,, now dont tell me k mard ka iman aurat k imaan se zyada mazboot hota hai

coz it s a serious discussion aur meri hansi nikal jae gi

yahaan aap bilkul sahi keh rahi hain kay aurt aur mard kay iman farq nahi karna chahiye, but, by the way, stariz tu aisa kuch nahi likha jis ka aap nay yeh ridiculous answer dya hai. Unhoon ne kaha tha “if our IMAN is powerful” yeh tu nahi kaha tha kay mard ka. You should read this carefully. Aur unhoon nay jis flow main baat ki hai us main unhoon nay pehlay mard aur aurat donoon ka zikar kia hai is liye waisay bhi is ka yeh meaning ho bhi nahi sakta jo aap ne liya hai. Mard ka iman mazboot ho gat u wo correct decion le ga kay wo us situation main non muslim say shadi karay ya nahi even he is allowed. Aur aurat ka imaan mazboot ho tu wo Allah kay decision kay khilaf kuch karnay ka tasavvur bhi nahi karaygi.

hmmmm..
aap ne meri harrr baat ko galt samajhne ki kasam khai hai kya,,, ya phir i look horrible while laffing


EXPLANATION of my rediculous answer :
mujhe stariz ki baat ka matlab yeh samajh aaya k
muslim ka imaan bohot mazboot hona chaiye,, Khuda aur Rasool before parents, wife, children and family
means,,, agar muslim mard ki wife non muslim hai to usse apne imaan ko sab se zyada importance dete hue apne bachon ko muslim banana chaiye
RITE ??? (stop me stariz if im wrong)

and my rediculous answer was
kya itnaa hi mazboot imaan kissi aurat ka nahi ho sakta kya ??
k woh apne husband se zyada importance iss baat ko de k uss k bache muslim banein

aaya samajh

ZEESHANAHMED said:

.........
And you should correct “paki”, it is “Pakistani”, not “paki” remember it. And also aapki yeh baat bilkul ghalat hai kay Pakistan main non muslims ko lower class samjha jata hai, Pakistan main minorities ko jitne rights diye jatay hain itna shayed hi kisi country main diyay jatay hoon. France main beth kar Pakistan kay baray main comments deney say parhaiz karain.

hmmm,,
sorrryy,, i dont give u any rite to correct my voc
i always type in abbrev coz dont want to waste my time
if u want me to type PAKISTAN and not PAKI
then u better check alll my posts,, and correct all the words with wring orthograph and then comes ponctuation and the rst....... im sure u dont wanan do this
i always use ENG for ENGLISH,, no one ever corrected me

ZEESHANAHMED said:

jee bilkul buhat se couple ¾ years baad separate ho jatay hain, laikin aap yeh bhool gaeen kay in countries main non muslim couples ka haal is say hi bura hai aur wahaan separation hona koi unhooni baat nahi hai, jis tarah muslim countries main liya jata hai.
Aap yahaan topic say deviate kar rahi hain, khair, aur yeh baat kay they are no more muslims, still they are better than no muslims laikin yeh baat sahi hai kay akhlaaq girtay ja rahay hain, like apnay hi religion kay rules par criticism… aur yeh haal western countries ka nahi kafi muslim countries ka bhi hai, but that was out topic.

jii bilkul,,,
but sorry,, no one told me that chotti si out of topic baat kehne se number kaat liye jaain ge

ZEESHANAHMED said:

yeh tu aap nay bhi mana kay koi non muslim mard kisi muslim lady kay liye muslim nahi hoa, and that is, of course, right. But jo reason aap nay batai that is absolutely wrong and misleading too. Yeh jo reason aap nay batai hai yeh tu completely religion say bezaari ki taraf point out karti hai, I hope it is not the case with you. The reason is that most of the people just not want to change their religion, and those, specially non-muslim, who change religion for just marrying a woman would most probably revert to their old religion after marriage. Aap nay aisay log bhi tu aakhir daikhay hoon gay. So extreme care is to be taken. Yeh tu aaj kal jo ho raha hai us ki baat thi, bari waja tu yeh hai most muslim women very well know that it is not allowed for a woman to marry a non moslim rather than thinking that their families would not accept him, and they are quite satisfied with it. And “things are changing now”, remember our Islam was the same, is the same, and will be the same, there is nothing going to change in it. All desired changing in Islam will put the desirer out of Islam.

i dont think if the reson i gave was wrong
it s abs rite,, coz im living in a western country and i know quite a lot pakis and non muslims
so,,,, i think im RITE

yep,, most of muslim women r aware of their limits but it seems men r not
coz abhi aap ne kaha k perm sirf muslim society mei hai,,
aur yahannn,,,,,,,, hmmm
khair u ll say again OUT OF TOPIC

btw,, i personnaly know a gal whose non muslim collegue proposed her and he was ready to b converted (not for her only,, he had studies abt islma) but gals fam didnt allow her
now u ll say,,,, ONE CASE,, only ONE CASE
oh well,, case sirf hai hai par soch majority ki yehi hai
hmmmm,, out of topic again
hehehehhehee....

ZEESHANAHMED said:

yahaan I think stariz kuch ghalat likh gaey jis par aap buhat khush hui hain. Muslim chahay aurrat ho ya mard uski first priority uska religion Islam hota hai or at least hona chahiye. If if is not the case, then I am not talking about those people. And remember abhi may nay likha tha kay there are certain conditions that are to be met before marrying a non muslim women, aur un main aik yeh hai kay he will have to ensure that his kids are not going be non muslims. If after marriage he allows his kids to be non muslim tu wo kufar ka murtakib hoga, and you may well know what it means. Aur isi fitnay ko roknay kay liye kaha gya kay sirf Islamic territories main hi non muslim aurat say shadi ki jaey.

Definitely aap in couples say apnay country main hi mili hoon gi tu aap nay khud dekh liya kay bachay tu gaey Islam say aur wo khud bhi gunahgaar huay, that might not be the case in muslim countries jahaan bachay apna lifestyle apni nahi balkay apnay religion Islam ki marzi say choose kartay hain.

VV CLEAR.... no question

but u may try to come out of THEORY
face the real life,,,,,,

meri baatein aap ko BURI or ajeeb shayad iss liye lag rahi hein coz im talking abt ppl i meet every day,,
the way they modified islam laws for their own comfort

aur aap ko shayad yeh lag raha hai k im criticizing ISLAM
im only criticizing MUSLIMS here
and if sometimes i say IM UNABLE TO GET THIS
it means k jo ho raha hai woh meri samajh se bahir hai coz karne waale khud ko islamic laws k mutabik sahi kehte hein


aur waise bhi,,, if i dont understand something in my religion,, am i not allowed to ask and understand Y ??
or ud prefer me to live like millions of ppl who call theirselves "muslims" but r following "religion of their fathers"
i hope u get wot i want to say

thnx a lot zeeshan :)
hmmm lemme say one thing first,,, for me if an idiot person doestn understand something and ask questions to understand them,, it may take a long time but at the end agar woh samajh jae to he wont b an idiot anymore
and ignorant,,, ahannn jo k kafi kuch janta hai aur jaan sakta hai but koi effort nahi karta,,, and stays ignorant till death,,
hmmm,, i dotn think if a muslim (or even a good human) has rite to stay ignorant all his life
now tell me who s better :)

ZEESHANAHMED said:

Very well said Islam sirf mard ko non muslim aurat (only Ahl-e-Kitab) say shadi ki permission deta hai, but under certain conditions, remember it. And also sirf Islamic societies main is ki ijazat hai, agar Dar-ul-Kufr main shadi karta hai tu yeh Makrooh-e-Tanzeehi (close to Haraam) hai aur agar Dar-ul-Hurb main karta hai tu yeh Makrooh-e-Tehreemi hai. And you said you were unable to understand it, so you don’t need tu understand it too kyunkay har baat agar aap ko samjhna hoti tu yeh religions kis marz ki dawa hain? Itnay rasool kyun bhej diye Allah ne? Is liye kay insaan ki akal mehdood hai, ...........................

Permission under conditions
- only in islamic society
etc

now here s something which sound vvvvvvvvv vv clear
u dotn even need to explain me reasons for that coz i got it
(see im not that STUPID )

but y did u say
""u dont need to understand it""
i think paighambar bheje gae k woh samjha sakein, same with Quran pak,
and im sorry but mujhe poora Quran paak with translation and tafseer + all hadees and paighambar's life hifz nahi hai
hmmmmm i mite me the only duffer in this condition,, that s i keep loonking despretaly and asking those who know better than me

ZEESHANAHMED said:

Correct again kay aurat nay hi bachoon ki parwarish karni aur mard nay supervise karna hai tu is main confusion kit u koi baat nahi hai. Perhaps aap ko bhool gya kay nikah namay par likha hota hai kay aurat aur aulad ki zarooriaat poori karna mard ki responsibility hai, tu wo is liye hai kay wo aulaad ki sahi tarah parwarish kar sakay unhain poora wakt de sakay, unki tarbiyat kar sakay, aur mard ki responsibility hai wo unki zarooryat poori karay. Islam nay mard ko family ka head banaya hai, tu supervise bhi tu wohi karay ga. Aap ko President, Prime minister, Governors ki posts samajhnay main koi preshani nahi hoti tu aurat aur mard ki responsibilities ki kyun samajh nahi aati.

u didnt get me
kehne ka matlab yeh tha k agar parwarish aurat ne karni hai to how can u expect from a non muslim woman k woh aap k bachon ko acha muslim banne ki tarbiyat de,, since woh khud muslim nahi hai (and imagine she s not even interested in becoming a muslim)

i hope u got my question now

me chalii m chaliii
dekho sall ki gali
mujhe roke na koi
me chaliiii me challiiii

majorityyy
heeheheheheheheheheheeee..
haaaaahahahahahahhaaahhaaahahahahhaaaaa...
oo plzzzzz
someone stop meeeeeeee

ahannn,,,
that s better


heyy,,
wot abt his gf.. any pic ??
not that gal in orange i hope

that wot i thought kashu
but where does khudi end and arrogance starts ??



yep ather
takabur

me kyaa janu kyaaaaaaaaa
jadu hai
jaduu haiiii,,
jadu hai
inn do matwaale
naino mei
jaduu haiiiii

SALL said:

yeh topic SAABBBBB k baare mei nahi hai
unn k bare mei hai who felt concerned

guess who ??

aankh se aankh milata hai koi
dil ko khenche liye jata hai koi

hmmmmmm..
chalo phir hum din ko acha karne liye kuch kha lein

arey forum start karne waale ko choro
first thing jiss ka idea tha
and now jo iss forum ko sahi se chala sake

i suppose it s true,, coz that how im spending my life
i donno if i ll b able to do it well,, but my interst, my whole soul, ambition, energy.... infact al i have is invested in it

let s hope im on a rite way

ehhhh

yani k our national poet humein yeh sabak de k gae hein
a whole life spent to tell ppl B ARROGANT