hey chandarmukhi where r u from? where is saint helena?

cool.
eik building hay agar us kay foudation, material, aur labour sahih (correct) nahi hay to ya to woh building nakara ho jati hai, ya gir kay kai janay lay leti hai, aur us ki itni devestation phelti hai kay kiyamat sa sama lagta hai. look a the twin towers.(not saying it was bad quality, but what devestation it caused).

isi tarah society bhi hai, hamaray pas hamaray achay values hain (building ka plan), lekin hamaray ideals, hamaray loog aur hamari harkatoon mein khot hai.

agar bachoon ko bachpan mein rok-a-toka na jai, to phir there should b no surprise when everything goes haywire. choti ummar mein bachoon ko remote istamal peh rok nahi. woh jo marzi dekhain, sirf is liye kay ma ya bap busy hai to bacha tang na kare ussay tv kay aagay rakh do. is umar mein hamnay tv remote ki shakal nahi dekhi thi.
bachoon ki language itni kharab hay kay F* galiyan tak aati hai meri cousin kay batay ko jo sirf 3 sal ka hai. ma baap nay achi tarah tho-kai ki ho to bachay ki majal nahi hoti kay woh aisa kam karay.
bachonn ko apnay kamaray diye hain aur agar app un say communicate karnay ki koshish karen to woh privacy, privacy ki rat laga day tay hain. parents ko patah nahi kay liyaa ho raha hay under. tv aur games aur computer kamroon mein rakhe hain jo marzi P**N, ya wahyat dekhin, kisi bhi galat loog say chatting karen, koi pata nahi parents ko, lekin parents to apni independent zindagi guzar lein na bachay comunicate karen, na parents apnay bachay kay kareeb ja nay ki koshish karen.
phir bachay galat dostiyan pal lay tain hain, jo unhay bura banatay hain, parents ko bachay ki company peh bhi nazar rakhni chahiya.

meray parents nay apni independence kisi had tak qurban kar kay, bajay is kay hum bahar ja kay buri chizoon say pala paray, ghar la kar sab dia. tv jo sab dekhain, computer sab kay samnay. abhi tak agar koi zara si bhi dodgy dress ya gf ya bf ka lafaz aa jaye abu itnay naraz hotay hain, kay hamari majal nahi hoti kay aagay say kus-kain.

thik hay aajkal family entertainment ka koi concept nahi lekin family living ka to hai. parents film pehlay dekhain, phir bachoon kay dekhnay wali ho to bachoon ko bhi dikhain. un ka bhi haq hai. un kay kamaray sharing peh karen doosary behan bhai kay sath. un kay dooston peh nazar rakhain. unhay parhnay, likhnay, dekhnay ki ijazat dein, lekin nazar rakhen. kehtay hain na sona ka chamach khilain, lekin sher ki nazar rakein.

i have just read a hadees and that too says that prophet muhammed always listened and communicated with his daughters about life decisions, and cos they were the daughters of the prophet they hardly ever argued with theri parents, but he still discussed, asked their opnions and talked to them in a very civilised and educated manner to make a family.

mayb this is a lesson for all of us to follow, for both youngsters and parents out there. learn to listen, communicate and talk to ur parents and children. dont push them or they will b pushed away from u, and dont disrespect the or u will become disrespected for all and infront of the almighty.

in conclusion i think parents should offer their children a idea they have and discuss it with their parent. they have to b open minded in that aspect. children in return even if they feel aginst it should not rebel and definatly not disrespect their advice. both parties should talk things through and listen to each other, what a parent says may b right and what a parent says may b right and covince each other in a friendly mature and civilised manner. parent and child should have the environment to talk and reach to a dicision especiallly in life matters together. that is whata family is. to live and work together.

cool topic. i cant speak for evryone but as far as i know and understand a b-o-g (aka boy or girl)usually r very annoyed and disrespectful to their parents when it comes to life decisions. HOWEVER, parents in return are very controlling who expect their child to be mindless robots who just accept their decisions. so i guess because in pakistani families it is usually expected that children r supposed to b seen and not heard. and so that has created a major lack of communication amongst families. parents put forward ordres instead of advice and suggestions, and inreturn children b-o-g become very defencive and rude and rebellious.
what ignites this feeling in them is because of all this mass entertainment and tv they see ppl who r independent and controlling their own lives, children or youngsters felll suffocated in their controlled envioronments, and this frustration comes out as a rebelion and an attitude towardas their elders. and on the other hand what ignites the controlling nature among parents is the fact that when they were young that is what their parents did to then so they became very frustrated too and start thinking that this is the way children r supposed to b brought up.
so i think in general there is no right or wrong person, i think it is very much to do with our society and its ideals, (not values). ideals such as not listening to what a child has to say.

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oh god man why dont u tell us who it is with resham

n some more

some pics of aminah and ammar belal

thanks mytery gal. i am hoping other ppl will give more stories and tales. u tell us one too.

come on people. im a new member i want some replies as this is one of my first posts and i want it to b fun and get some replies.

thanks sis but im a sis too

ok perhaps u guys dont have serious regrets but u probably have some humorus ones that make u laugh now.

my regret was that for my 21st my aunt gave me a pair of socks. SOCKS.... i mean who gives u socks on ur 21st. not only that they were the most ugliest pair too. so i chuked them in the bin after the party. till today i havent told her what happened to them cos shes always asking me why i dont wear em. i jus say oh theyve gone for washing.
i wish there was a way i could get those back, cos now i realise that its not the present but the gesture that counts. sorry aunt J.

how long ago was that. i know they were dating and moved in together. anyone know why too.

well firstly it is not necessary that nudity makes a good film. look at oscar nominated lagaan, swades, etc.. etc..we pakistani not having any education in the art of film making etc have started thinking awarapan makes a good film. no. good story, good acting, got film making is what makes a good fim. but since apni cheez hai to ussay neglect to nahi kar saktay. just like a parent still loves an ugly child, cos its theirs. so we should not dis it,nut encourage our actors and industry whereveer and however we can and just be patient. allah kabhi na kabhi to sunnay ga.

defo sister

to phir batao. irshad

i think majority of people have not many opinions on this topic. plus its too a sensitive topic to discuss as it can jeapordise the peace talks. you never know about these political things sometimes politicians just do stunts to create situations. wat if he is faking all this from the oposition side in either pakistan or india who r against peace to shed pakistan in a bad light or give indians a bad heart. i reakon cos ppl dont know much about this its better to leave it alone so no heart is hurt.

I agree with u smooth daddy. and lil dolly perhaps this forum has gone of track but i think in order to compare the old and modern values we also have to deeply consider the factors that have made the trasition. It doesnt nessasirly rely on edjucation but also human, social and cultural values that have changed. our country is mashallah filled with values that the western world doesnt have, but that still is not to say that we are the best. we as a nation with great ptential to be the best. and the only way forward is if we rather than being negative about either the past or present we take along what has both eras have taught us, what we have learned from our mistakes, to become truly modern. modern doesnt mean nudity etc.. but it is making a statement. so we as people should make a statement of being true pakistanis with values to suceed in life and life after.

yes but too little knowledge makes us jahil, hence the coming of the prophets at the times of jahalat amongst the arabs. prophets were educators.

so thata boy and girl are aware of each other rather than curious. there was a pope caught with child P**N, according to him it was out of curiosity.
Our religeon is so broad that it even discusses these things in its hadees and verses.

This is a very interesting topic, however also very broad too. any how, i think being a muslim somewhat strict brought up in uk, i have been taught human biology in school at the age of 15+ in a co-education environment. that has made me realise the seriousness of the act. i have no curiosities about the subject. whereas as far as i know in pakistan it is much of a hush...hush situation, majority of ppl are illiterate. When they get to a sexually active puberty age they become frustrated with unanswered questions so i suppose they have to experience it them selves and relate to crime. my parents r pakistani born bred muslims who actually encouraged us to learn. according to our prophet agar insan ko education kay liye china jana ho to jaye. education hasil karnay mein aur us kay ulta matlab lein nay farak hai.
I dont necessarily think it is directly the fault of the modern zamana, but more of the exposure of media to our children and teens. parents should have control over the content their children are seeing. when we were young we werent allowed to even touch the tv let alone the remote. nowadays, children have cable tv with paperview etc... and they are freely flick through channels.
boys r kept seperate from the girls is another factor. decency ki had tak larkay aur larki ko bat chit karnay koi harj nahi, sab kay satth ta kay un mein confidence aai kay koi hawa nahi.

this is resham, not meera, brov or sis, (whatever gender you are). Watch bolly film Nazar to see Meera.

to agar is baat ko ulta dekho to what if kisssi ka kabara kar kay koi sorry hi na kahe. That is a lot more selfish. Atleast saying it enough times and meaning is better than not saying it.

yeah but what can u do when ur sorrys are falling on deaf ears. what if u have actually meant it but the other person has no regard of it. and u have even suffered the punishment for what you have done. then?

sall(yeh kiya hota hai??)

The picture with meera, bal meeras leg looks like a ...a....a....a... sooooooooooooooo fat. ugly bitch.

it looks like the very ugly and minging Shumail Khan. The guy who was with resham when urmila came to pakistan.

all in all there is nothing wrong or shameful with saying sorry, but it is the other persons duty to forgive too. Yeh na ho app mafi mangtay jain, aur doosray ko is bat ka ehsas nahi that u r truly sorry. in that case that person wasnt worth a sorry, and just saying sorry enough times to satisfy ur self that what u have done on ur behalf is good.

big up for madam reema. no matter what her background she has always remained true to herself. this proves a strong personality.