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well i dont have the f**kin time for one out of those 9999999999999* n . believe me .lol
Posted 25 Aug 2003

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well they are not fanantics like the pakistani ones. theres a huge diff. - and i am stating this really matter of factly. they are normal people for god sake.
Posted 25 Aug 2003

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well they are not fanantics like the pakistani ones. theres a huge diff. - and i am stating this really matter of factly. they are normal people for god sake.
Posted 25 Aug 2003

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if u go 'tit' for 'tat'. i have no issues with it. but u gotta grow tits first nfak.lol anyways i dont think i am being disrespectful to any religon here. i was just voicing popular opinion. no offence. i l curtail it - and u could stay oblivious to it. lol i was trying to be ur plug here.
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nfak ! hope u enjoyed the cable operators strike in ur country demanding transmission of indian channels. hahahahah
Posted 25 Aug 2003

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it s a super duper hit india . movie meant for kids and they are flocking to the theatres to watch it . he s back with a bang. salman was always there and his movies always guarantee a heavy initial. all the women in india wont miss his movie for the world . that one s a hit too. lots of hits for bollywood this year .
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yeah nfak , u should also take a f**kin camel and live alone in sahara cause u see the personality types. lol
Posted 25 Aug 2003

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yeah baby! cause u r a bunch of losers. lol the only women u talk to in ur entire life are ur first cousins and get married to em. well i dont wanna comment on that but i l post another article which is an interview of another of ur hot paki babe who was a wanna be bolly wood actress. her name s anita ayub. i m sure u know who she is . see what she has to say about p[aki guys. i laffed my brains out on this one.lol
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he was just an **** man with a great voice. no denying that.







ITS FFM man oh man ,,, man oh man ..... ............
Posted 25 Aug 2003

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very funny guys , seems like the burkas are transparent now lol cause u can see ur girls are pretty . by the way - do they talk to u guys cause i see em lusting after indian guys here.lol
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news article in daily jang, sunday the 24th of august in the instep magazine section--
Bollywood calling

With each new film Bollywood is said to be taking a step towards a better, more enlightened cinema. So is our industry still competing with the one across the divide or should we just hand over the title of 'Big B' to Bollywood

By Shahzareah Husain

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and so goes the adage. But in the case of celluloid development watching Reema and Meera do their umpteenth latka and jhatka one cannot help but feel pangs of envy as Bollywood trots ahead to the finish line.

Now my argument to any friendly neighbour has always been that if we had the sort of funding from generous benefactors we too would be producing classics. But taking just this year as an example, the stark reality emerging is that it is not just the money but also the creativity that is slowly erasing the formula of boy and girl dancing around trees and introducing something that can appeal even to an intelligent mind. Previously Hollywood were reluctant to acknowledge Indian cinema but with Devdas and other big projects having made it to Cannes and back, equations have changed. And the non-resident Indian cinema wooing the bilingual audience through Bend it Like Beckham and Monsoon Wedding suddenly, the developed side of the world now seems to be in full know how of the Salman Khan and Vivek Oberoi tussle over the stunning Aishwarya!

Dreams Unlimited's Chalte Chalte is one of the biggest hits of the year. Using the same theme as Saathiya it explores life after marriage instead of rolling credits using the wedding scene as the background. The emerging genres impose responsibility on the existing scenarios to reappear after a major over hauling. Ishq Vishq Pyar Vyar was not the first movie to have been based around a college campus. Many onscreen triangles have been etched on that frame but what made this movie was not just the natural look adopted by the actors, but also issues such as teenage sex which seems to be a more pressing issue than avenging your father's death.

Natural has given way to supernatural. From the songless Bhoot that succeeded in living up to its tag line and causing one sleepless night atleast to Darna Mana Hai in which six short stories are narrated under one canopy and by the looks of it the concept appealed so much to the viewers that its sequel Darna Zaroori Hai is on its way to the cinema houses.

Even the most diehard Indian movie followers were sceptical of Koi Mil Gaya being a solid hit. Rumours ranged from Hrithik being the alien to the spaceship carrying him off to the fifth or sixth planet - projecting it as a film that might not click with the Indian audience at the end of the day. But international expertise as well as a mind blowing performance by Hrithik himself has succeeded in quashing all such doubts and as the Roshan clan make their way merrily to the bank they can be rest assured that this experimental venture will be regarded as ground breaker for years to come. Sure the alien and the last song 'Hai Allah' are tacky but the rest of it is at least a good effort in terms of science-fiction.

The fact that India and Pakistan despite sharing the same history and the same resources in the past have turned out to be so different from each other as far as cinematic values are concerned, maybe reasoned with the oft-repeated justification that singing and dancing are part of their culture - and we have always been told by the conservative elements to suppress our creative urges headed in that direction. But whatever the excuse, fact is that post Laagan there seems to be no looking back. Bollywood which was supposed to have gone Hollywood, is not only borrowing from - but lending generously its elements to the more developed industry of Hollywood. Hence it doesn't come as a surprise when a Naseeruddin Shah makes an extraordinary appearance in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or when Heather Graham and Jimi Mistry, dance to the tunes of Indian music in The Guru.

The forthcoming Mumbai Se Ayaa Mera Dost deals with a similar rural theme though its issue (electricity) is more current than land tax. Some films such as Armaan despite a very talented team failed to work at the box office. Reasons could be the slow pace or that fact that promos had revealed it all before release but just as with Dhoop Kinare PTV introduced its audience to life inside a hospital; Bollywood via Honey Irani's script took you in to the life of medical practitioners and the effort should be admired simply because it was unchartered territory previously.

The war or patriotic sagas continue with films ranging from the below mediocre Jaal and Hero to J.P Dutta's LOC which is the final installation of his patriotic trilogy (the earlier ones being Border and Refugee). Most of them are biased and dialogues often lack grey matter in them but unfortunately we continue to make the same mistake in Lollywood time and again as well.

Item and stage numbers remain and heroines are still treated as sex symbols more often than not, but using Preity Zinta's role as an example in Koi Mil Gaya, where she is more of a protector than a girlfriend, the tide is turning slowly. Sexuality remains a selling factor but with films like Jism using it as the principal theme it no longer needs to be covered in lashes of rain or be symbolised by the images of birds and bees.

The Pakistani government has recently reinforced the ban on Indian cable channels, the reason perhaps to protect us from being brainwashed by the culture of saas bahu and etcetera - unfortunately not too unlike ours. But what is ignored is that sales of tapes and DVDs escalate nevertheless. Little girls will still dance to a Kareena number at a mehndi and people will spend Sunday night watching one action hero or the other take on ten men at the same time.

Two separate nations with different ideologies and identities yet many cultural similarities. But even if the films that they make may be as different from each other as chalk from cheese, we share similar audiences at least for our creations. So while Salman romances with Bhumika Chawla in the latest Tere Naam and our audience getting vicarious thrills watching it, So much for the change in hearts and minds.

Posted 24 Aug 2003

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ok ! i apologize for that one , got carried away , please forgive me - i shouldnt have said that.
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Bollywood calling

With each new film Bollywood is said to be taking a step towards a better, more enlightened cinema. So is our industry still competing with the one across the divide or should we just hand over the title of 'Big B' to Bollywood

By Shahzareah Husain

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and so goes the adage. But in the case of celluloid development watching Reema and Meera do their umpteenth latka and jhatka one cannot help but feel pangs of envy as Bollywood trots ahead to the finish line.

Now my argument to any friendly neighbour has always been that if we had the sort of funding from generous benefactors we too would be producing classics. But taking just this year as an example, the stark reality emerging is that it is not just the money but also the creativity that is slowly erasing the formula of boy and girl dancing around trees and introducing something that can appeal even to an intelligent mind. Previously Hollywood were reluctant to acknowledge Indian cinema but with Devdas and other big projects having made it to Cannes and back, equations have changed. And the non-resident Indian cinema wooing the bilingual audience through Bend it Like Beckham and Monsoon Wedding suddenly, the developed side of the world now seems to be in full know how of the Salman Khan and Vivek Oberoi tussle over the stunning Aishwarya!

Dreams Unlimited's Chalte Chalte is one of the biggest hits of the year. Using the same theme as Saathiya it explores life after marriage instead of rolling credits using the wedding scene as the background. The emerging genres impose responsibility on the existing scenarios to reappear after a major over hauling. Ishq Vishq Pyar Vyar was not the first movie to have been based around a college campus. Many onscreen triangles have been etched on that frame but what made this movie was not just the natural look adopted by the actors, but also issues such as teenage sex which seems to be a more pressing issue than avenging your father's death.

Natural has given way to supernatural. From the songless Bhoot that succeeded in living up to its tag line and causing one sleepless night atleast to Darna Mana Hai in which six short stories are narrated under one canopy and by the looks of it the concept appealed so much to the viewers that its sequel Darna Zaroori Hai is on its way to the cinema houses.

Even the most diehard Indian movie followers were sceptical of Koi Mil Gaya being a solid hit. Rumours ranged from Hrithik being the alien to the spaceship carrying him off to the fifth or sixth planet - projecting it as a film that might not click with the Indian audience at the end of the day. But international expertise as well as a mind blowing performance by Hrithik himself has succeeded in quashing all such doubts and as the Roshan clan make their way merrily to the bank they can be rest assured that this experimental venture will be regarded as ground breaker for years to come. Sure the alien and the last song 'Hai Allah' are tacky but the rest of it is at least a good effort in terms of science-fiction.

The fact that India and Pakistan despite sharing the same history and the same resources in the past have turned out to be so different from each other as far as cinematic values are concerned, maybe reasoned with the oft-repeated justification that singing and dancing are part of their culture - and we have always been told by the conservative elements to suppress our creative urges headed in that direction. But whatever the excuse, fact is that post Laagan there seems to be no looking back. Bollywood which was supposed to have gone Hollywood, is not only borrowing from - but lending generously its elements to the more developed industry of Hollywood. Hence it doesn't come as a surprise when a Naseeruddin Shah makes an extraordinary appearance in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or when Heather Graham and Jimi Mistry, dance to the tunes of Indian music in The Guru.

The forthcoming Mumbai Se Ayaa Mera Dost deals with a similar rural theme though its issue (electricity) is more current than land tax. Some films such as Armaan despite a very talented team failed to work at the box office. Reasons could be the slow pace or that fact that promos had revealed it all before release but just as with Dhoop Kinare PTV introduced its audience to life inside a hospital; Bollywood via Honey Irani's script took you in to the life of medical practitioners and the effort should be admired simply because it was unchartered territory previously.

The war or patriotic sagas continue with films ranging from the below mediocre Jaal and Hero to J.P Dutta's LOC which is the final installation of his patriotic trilogy (the earlier ones being Border and Refugee). Most of them are biased and dialogues often lack grey matter in them but unfortunately we continue to make the same mistake in Lollywood time and again as well.

Item and stage numbers remain and heroines are still treated as sex symbols more often than not, but using Preity Zinta's role as an example in Koi Mil Gaya, where she is more of a protector than a girlfriend, the tide is turning slowly. Sexuality remains a selling factor but with films like Jism using it as the principal theme it no longer needs to be covered in lashes of rain or be symbolised by the images of birds and bees.

The Pakistani government has recently reinforced the ban on Indian cable channels, the reason perhaps to protect us from being brainwashed by the culture of saas bahu and etcetera - unfortunately not too unlike ours. But what is ignored is that sales of tapes and DVDs escalate nevertheless. Little girls will still dance to a Kareena number at a mehndi and people will spend Sunday night watching one action hero or the other take on ten men at the same time.

Two separate nations with different ideologies and identities yet many cultural similarities. But even if the films that they make may be as different from each other as chalk from cheese, we share similar audiences at least for our creations. So while Salman romances with Bhumika Chawla in the latest Tere Naam and our audience getting vicarious thrills watching it, So much for the change in hearts and minds.

Posted 24 Aug 2003

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Bollywood calling

With each new film Bollywood is said to be taking a step towards a better, more enlightened cinema. So is our industry still competing with the one across the divide or should we just hand over the title of 'Big B' to Bollywood

By Shahzareah Husain

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and so goes the adage. But in the case of celluloid development watching Reema and Meera do their umpteenth latka and jhatka one cannot help but feel pangs of envy as Bollywood trots ahead to the finish line.

Now my argument to any friendly neighbour has always been that if we had the sort of funding from generous benefactors we too would be producing classics. But taking just this year as an example, the stark reality emerging is that it is not just the money but also the creativity that is slowly erasing the formula of boy and girl dancing around trees and introducing something that can appeal even to an intelligent mind. Previously Hollywood were reluctant to acknowledge Indian cinema but with Devdas and other big projects having made it to Cannes and back, equations have changed. And the non-resident Indian cinema wooing the bilingual audience through Bend it Like Beckham and Monsoon Wedding suddenly, the developed side of the world now seems to be in full know how of the Salman Khan and Vivek Oberoi tussle over the stunning Aishwarya!

Dreams Unlimited's Chalte Chalte is one of the biggest hits of the year. Using the same theme as Saathiya it explores life after marriage instead of rolling credits using the wedding scene as the background. The emerging genres impose responsibility on the existing scenarios to reappear after a major over hauling. Ishq Vishq Pyar Vyar was not the first movie to have been based around a college campus. Many onscreen triangles have been etched on that frame but what made this movie was not just the natural look adopted by the actors, but also issues such as teenage sex which seems to be a more pressing issue than avenging your father's death.

Natural has given way to supernatural. From the songless Bhoot that succeeded in living up to its tag line and causing one sleepless night atleast to Darna Mana Hai in which six short stories are narrated under one canopy and by the looks of it the concept appealed so much to the viewers that its sequel Darna Zaroori Hai is on its way to the cinema houses.

Even the most diehard Indian movie followers were sceptical of Koi Mil Gaya being a solid hit. Rumours ranged from Hrithik being the alien to the spaceship carrying him off to the fifth or sixth planet - projecting it as a film that might not click with the Indian audience at the end of the day. But international expertise as well as a mind blowing performance by Hrithik himself has succeeded in quashing all such doubts and as the Roshan clan make their way merrily to the bank they can be rest assured that this experimental venture will be regarded as ground breaker for years to come. Sure the alien and the last song 'Hai Allah' are tacky but the rest of it is at least a good effort in terms of science-fiction.

The fact that India and Pakistan despite sharing the same history and the same resources in the past have turned out to be so different from each other as far as cinematic values are concerned, maybe reasoned with the oft-repeated justification that singing and dancing are part of their culture - and we have always been told by the conservative elements to suppress our creative urges headed in that direction. But whatever the excuse, fact is that post Laagan there seems to be no looking back. Bollywood which was supposed to have gone Hollywood, is not only borrowing from - but lending generously its elements to the more developed industry of Hollywood. Hence it doesn't come as a surprise when a Naseeruddin Shah makes an extraordinary appearance in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or when Heather Graham and Jimi Mistry, dance to the tunes of Indian music in The Guru.

The forthcoming Mumbai Se Ayaa Mera Dost deals with a similar rural theme though its issue (electricity) is more current than land tax. Some films such as Armaan despite a very talented team failed to work at the box office. Reasons could be the slow pace or that fact that promos had revealed it all before release but just as with Dhoop Kinare PTV introduced its audience to life inside a hospital; Bollywood via Honey Irani's script took you in to the life of medical practitioners and the effort should be admired simply because it was unchartered territory previously.

The war or patriotic sagas continue with films ranging from the below mediocre Jaal and Hero to J.P Dutta's LOC which is the final installation of his patriotic trilogy (the earlier ones being Border and Refugee). Most of them are biased and dialogues often lack grey matter in them but unfortunately we continue to make the same mistake in Lollywood time and again as well.

Item and stage numbers remain and heroines are still treated as sex symbols more often than not, but using Preity Zinta's role as an example in Koi Mil Gaya, where she is more of a protector than a girlfriend, the tide is turning slowly. Sexuality remains a selling factor but with films like Jism using it as the principal theme it no longer needs to be covered in lashes of rain or be symbolised by the images of birds and bees.

The Pakistani government has recently reinforced the ban on Indian cable channels, the reason perhaps to protect us from being brainwashed by the culture of saas bahu and etcetera - unfortunately not too unlike ours. But what is ignored is that sales of tapes and DVDs escalate nevertheless. Little girls will still dance to a Kareena number at a mehndi and people will spend Sunday night watching one action hero or the other take on ten men at the same time.

Two separate nations with different ideologies and identities yet many cultural similarities. But even if the films that they make may be as different from each other as chalk from cheese, we share similar audiences at least for our creations. So while Salman romances with Bhumika Chawla in the latest Tere Naam and our audience getting vicarious thrills watching it, So much for the change in hearts and minds.

Posted 24 Aug 2003

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come to bombay and find some sexy babe nfak, i promise u ll be indulged - if u dont disclose u r from pakistan.lol
Posted 24 Aug 2003

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well nfak, talkin bout movies i have an article for ya. it s from a leading daily in pakistan called- ' daily jang' - pretty pompous name but anyways this came today, sunday the 24th , enjoylol--
Bollywood calling

With each new film Bollywood is said to be taking a step towards a better, more enlightened cinema. So is our industry still competing with the one across the divide or should we just hand over the title of 'Big B' to Bollywood

By Shahzareah Husain

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and so goes the adage. But in the case of celluloid development watching Reema and Meera do their umpteenth latka and jhatka one cannot help but feel pangs of envy as Bollywood trots ahead to the finish line.

Now my argument to any friendly neighbour has always been that if we had the sort of funding from generous benefactors we too would be producing classics. But taking just this year as an example, the stark reality emerging is that it is not just the money but also the creativity that is slowly erasing the formula of boy and girl dancing around trees and introducing something that can appeal even to an intelligent mind. Previously Hollywood were reluctant to acknowledge Indian cinema but with Devdas and other big projects having made it to Cannes and back, equations have changed. And the non-resident Indian cinema wooing the bilingual audience through Bend it Like Beckham and Monsoon Wedding suddenly, the developed side of the world now seems to be in full know how of the Salman Khan and Vivek Oberoi tussle over the stunning Aishwarya!

Dreams Unlimited's Chalte Chalte is one of the biggest hits of the year. Using the same theme as Saathiya it explores life after marriage instead of rolling credits using the wedding scene as the background. The emerging genres impose responsibility on the existing scenarios to reappear after a major over hauling. Ishq Vishq Pyar Vyar was not the first movie to have been based around a college campus. Many onscreen triangles have been etched on that frame but what made this movie was not just the natural look adopted by the actors, but also issues such as teenage sex which seems to be a more pressing issue than avenging your father's death.

Natural has given way to supernatural. From the songless Bhoot that succeeded in living up to its tag line and causing one sleepless night atleast to Darna Mana Hai in which six short stories are narrated under one canopy and by the looks of it the concept appealed so much to the viewers that its sequel Darna Zaroori Hai is on its way to the cinema houses.

Even the most diehard Indian movie followers were sceptical of Koi Mil Gaya being a solid hit. Rumours ranged from Hrithik being the alien to the spaceship carrying him off to the fifth or sixth planet - projecting it as a film that might not click with the Indian audience at the end of the day. But international expertise as well as a mind blowing performance by Hrithik himself has succeeded in quashing all such doubts and as the Roshan clan make their way merrily to the bank they can be rest assured that this experimental venture will be regarded as ground breaker for years to come. Sure the alien and the last song 'Hai Allah' are tacky but the rest of it is at least a good effort in terms of science-fiction.

The fact that India and Pakistan despite sharing the same history and the same resources in the past have turned out to be so different from each other as far as cinematic values are concerned, maybe reasoned with the oft-repeated justification that singing and dancing are part of their culture - and we have always been told by the conservative elements to suppress our creative urges headed in that direction. But whatever the excuse, fact is that post Laagan there seems to be no looking back. Bollywood which was supposed to have gone Hollywood, is not only borrowing from - but lending generously its elements to the more developed industry of Hollywood. Hence it doesn't come as a surprise when a Naseeruddin Shah makes an extraordinary appearance in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or when Heather Graham and Jimi Mistry, dance to the tunes of Indian music in The Guru.

The forthcoming Mumbai Se Ayaa Mera Dost deals with a similar rural theme though its issue (electricity) is more current than land tax. Some films such as Armaan despite a very talented team failed to work at the box office. Reasons could be the slow pace or that fact that promos had revealed it all before release but just as with Dhoop Kinare PTV introduced its audience to life inside a hospital; Bollywood via Honey Irani's script took you in to the life of medical practitioners and the effort should be admired simply because it was unchartered territory previously.

The war or patriotic sagas continue with films ranging from the below mediocre Jaal and Hero to J.P Dutta's LOC which is the final installation of his patriotic trilogy (the earlier ones being Border and Refugee). Most of them are biased and dialogues often lack grey matter in them but unfortunately we continue to make the same mistake in Lollywood time and again as well.

Item and stage numbers remain and heroines are still treated as sex symbols more often than not, but using Preity Zinta's role as an example in Koi Mil Gaya, where she is more of a protector than a girlfriend, the tide is turning slowly. Sexuality remains a selling factor but with films like Jism using it as the principal theme it no longer needs to be covered in lashes of rain or be symbolised by the images of birds and bees.

The Pakistani government has recently reinforced the ban on Indian cable channels, the reason perhaps to protect us from being brainwashed by the culture of saas bahu and etcetera - unfortunately not too unlike ours. But what is ignored is that sales of tapes and DVDs escalate nevertheless. Little girls will still dance to a Kareena number at a mehndi and people will spend Sunday night watching one action hero or the other take on ten men at the same time.

Two separate nations with different ideologies and identities yet many cultural similarities. But even if the films that they make may be as different from each other as chalk from cheese, we share similar audiences at least for our creations. So while Salman romances with Bhumika Chawla in the latest Tere Naam and our audience getting vicarious thrills watching it, So much for the change in hearts and minds.

Posted 24 Aug 2003

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well nfak, talkin bout movies i have an article for ya. it s from a leading daily in pakistan called- ' daily jang' - pretty pompous name but anyways this came today, sunday the 24th , enjoylol--
Bollywood calling

With each new film Bollywood is said to be taking a step towards a better, more enlightened cinema. So is our industry still competing with the one across the divide or should we just hand over the title of 'Big B' to Bollywood

By Shahzareah Husain

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and so goes the adage. But in the case of celluloid development watching Reema and Meera do their umpteenth latka and jhatka one cannot help but feel pangs of envy as Bollywood trots ahead to the finish line.

Now my argument to any friendly neighbour has always been that if we had the sort of funding from generous benefactors we too would be producing classics. But taking just this year as an example, the stark reality emerging is that it is not just the money but also the creativity that is slowly erasing the formula of boy and girl dancing around trees and introducing something that can appeal even to an intelligent mind. Previously Hollywood were reluctant to acknowledge Indian cinema but with Devdas and other big projects having made it to Cannes and back, equations have changed. And the non-resident Indian cinema wooing the bilingual audience through Bend it Like Beckham and Monsoon Wedding suddenly, the developed side of the world now seems to be in full know how of the Salman Khan and Vivek Oberoi tussle over the stunning Aishwarya!

Dreams Unlimited's Chalte Chalte is one of the biggest hits of the year. Using the same theme as Saathiya it explores life after marriage instead of rolling credits using the wedding scene as the background. The emerging genres impose responsibility on the existing scenarios to reappear after a major over hauling. Ishq Vishq Pyar Vyar was not the first movie to have been based around a college campus. Many onscreen triangles have been etched on that frame but what made this movie was not just the natural look adopted by the actors, but also issues such as teenage sex which seems to be a more pressing issue than avenging your father's death.

Natural has given way to supernatural. From the songless Bhoot that succeeded in living up to its tag line and causing one sleepless night atleast to Darna Mana Hai in which six short stories are narrated under one canopy and by the looks of it the concept appealed so much to the viewers that its sequel Darna Zaroori Hai is on its way to the cinema houses.

Even the most diehard Indian movie followers were sceptical of Koi Mil Gaya being a solid hit. Rumours ranged from Hrithik being the alien to the spaceship carrying him off to the fifth or sixth planet - projecting it as a film that might not click with the Indian audience at the end of the day. But international expertise as well as a mind blowing performance by Hrithik himself has succeeded in quashing all such doubts and as the Roshan clan make their way merrily to the bank they can be rest assured that this experimental venture will be regarded as ground breaker for years to come. Sure the alien and the last song 'Hai Allah' are tacky but the rest of it is at least a good effort in terms of science-fiction.

The fact that India and Pakistan despite sharing the same history and the same resources in the past have turned out to be so different from each other as far as cinematic values are concerned, maybe reasoned with the oft-repeated justification that singing and dancing are part of their culture - and we have always been told by the conservative elements to suppress our creative urges headed in that direction. But whatever the excuse, fact is that post Laagan there seems to be no looking back. Bollywood which was supposed to have gone Hollywood, is not only borrowing from - but lending generously its elements to the more developed industry of Hollywood. Hence it doesn't come as a surprise when a Naseeruddin Shah makes an extraordinary appearance in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or when Heather Graham and Jimi Mistry, dance to the tunes of Indian music in The Guru.

The forthcoming Mumbai Se Ayaa Mera Dost deals with a similar rural theme though its issue (electricity) is more current than land tax. Some films such as Armaan despite a very talented team failed to work at the box office. Reasons could be the slow pace or that fact that promos had revealed it all before release but just as with Dhoop Kinare PTV introduced its audience to life inside a hospital; Bollywood via Honey Irani's script took you in to the life of medical practitioners and the effort should be admired simply because it was unchartered territory previously.

The war or patriotic sagas continue with films ranging from the below mediocre Jaal and Hero to J.P Dutta's LOC which is the final installation of his patriotic trilogy (the earlier ones being Border and Refugee). Most of them are biased and dialogues often lack grey matter in them but unfortunately we continue to make the same mistake in Lollywood time and again as well.

Item and stage numbers remain and heroines are still treated as sex symbols more often than not, but using Preity Zinta's role as an example in Koi Mil Gaya, where she is more of a protector than a girlfriend, the tide is turning slowly. Sexuality remains a selling factor but with films like Jism using it as the principal theme it no longer needs to be covered in lashes of rain or be symbolised by the images of birds and bees.

The Pakistani government has recently reinforced the ban on Indian cable channels, the reason perhaps to protect us from being brainwashed by the culture of saas bahu and etcetera - unfortunately not too unlike ours. But what is ignored is that sales of tapes and DVDs escalate nevertheless. Little girls will still dance to a Kareena number at a mehndi and people will spend Sunday night watching one action hero or the other take on ten men at the same time.

Two separate nations with different ideologies and identities yet many cultural similarities. But even if the films that they make may be as different from each other as chalk from cheese, we share similar audiences at least for our creations. So while Salman romances with Bhumika Chawla in the latest Tere Naam and our audience getting vicarious thrills watching it, So much for the change in hearts and minds.

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ah! well nfak i ll let ya win on that one cause u r his huge huge fan. its a gift . enjoy. its from ur big indian brother.
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naaah u cant cause who gives a f**k about what the uneducated poor people of both our countries do. keep that aside . lets talk middle class and upwards. what ever socioeconomic class anybody in ur land of pure belongs to- they are still holding on to the outdated religious beliefs that forbids everything . imagine stayin celibate all ur life cause u ll get 40 virgina after u r dead. lol lol or is it 45.
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trrrrrrrrraaaang wrong again my friends. these so called movie makers ( i say that sarcastically) from pakistan recorded those songs in bombay . and bal thakerey or no bal thakery , why teh f**k do they have to even bother comin there and doin this shit. lol. why -- cause they want a piece of the bollywood pie. to go global even if the route is thru a enemy country.lol
yes the indian singers were paid but these idiots that u call movie makers came all the way to bombay to beg for their services. i m savin u a little embarrasment here by not attatching the article here , but if u wanna debate it, i will the next time. all ur artists want a piece of indian pie.brace urself cause u r fighting a lost cause for teh people who will defy u every moment.lol i just love ya nfak for ur patriotism which bordors on teh delusional. and in my heart of hearts i admire ya for that. dont ever lose it bro.
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trrrrrrrrraaaang wrong again my friends. these so called movie makers ( i say that sarcastically) from pakistan recorded those songs in bombay . and bal thakerey or no bal thakery , why teh f**k do they have to even bother comin there and doin this shit. lol. why -- cause they want a piece of the bollywood pie. to go global even if the route is thru a enemy country.lol
yes the indian singers were paid but these idiots that u call movie makers came all the way to bombay to beg for their services. i m savin u a little embarrasment here by not attatching the article here , but if u wanna debate it, i will the next time. all ur artists want a piece of indian pie.brace urself cause u r fighting a lost cause for teh people who will defy u every moment.lol i just love ya nfak for ur patriotism which bordors on teh delusional. and in my heart of hearts i admire ya for that. dont ever lose it bro.
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nafak - my heart felt congratulations on the new casettes ( inside and all).lol hope u find some ears for it.
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talkin bout doctors , i guess thats why people are comin from ur country to get their children treated in india. make some hospitals first . ther s more to life thamn prayin to mecca.lol
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i think nfak u havent moved outta whatever village u live ur deprived life in pakistan. talk about now and the whole shit that happened. pakistan sucks and u know it . i told ya this before. look at teh economy, theres no investment, u get run over by dictators every couple a years. u r not on the world map for anything . whereever theres a conflict goin on the world rite now the other party involved is muslims. u have ruined urself . it s a f**kin failed state. that s how the world knows u . and this is for the other guy - sex is not bout havin to pay for it and get some f**kin virus froma paki whore, u dumbass.
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i think nfak u havent moved outta whatever village u live ur deprived life in pakistan. talk about now and the whole shit that happened. pakistan sucks and u know it . i told ya this before. look at teh economy, theres no investment, u get run over by dictators every couple a years. u r not on the world map for anything . whereever theres a conflict goin on the world rite now the other party involved is muslims. u have ruined urself . it s a f**kin failed state. that s how the world knows u . and this is for the other guy - sex is not bout havin to pay for it and get some f**kin virus froma paki whore, u dumbass.
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ydakh, nobody s putting a knife to ur neck and asking u to see what we make . it s not the same india anymore and values and ethos have changed with the new generation in control, censorship which i think is a f**kin joke cause people are smart enough to know what tehy can see and what s detrimental for them , is outta the window. nobody wants to be told what they should or should not see. that s how india is now . if the nudity bothers ya then u could just stop watching our movies. i dont think there s anything wrong with it though and i dont think nudity is vulgar either. and i voice the opinion of my country today.
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i think he s talkin bout me. so much for speaking the truth. i am not against pakistan or islam for god sake. my best friends in india are muslims- but i am just debating whatever the agenda on that particular forum is. lets talk smart here instead of resorting to these cheap gimmicks ydakh.
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well, lollywood is a synonym for a hilarious and deprived movie industry that produces movies their own people dont see. lol talkin about dramas, maybe that s the reason why indian channels were so popular in pakistan. does anybody watch ptv or whatever channels pakistan has to offer . they are a bloody joke.lol
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hahaha makin money in pakistani movies. it s called 'helping out'or 'good will'.
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movie is called 'jazbaat' and she d be roamncing arjun rampal. she s pretty hot though.
Posted 23 Aug 2003