hum jo kartay hein khud kartay hein!!

ALLAH nay hamay bata dia k kia ghalt hai or kia sahi!!
issliye hum kuch aisi ghalti karein or phir yeh kahein k yeh tou kismet mein likha tou bilkul ghalt hai!!

hum apni choices khud bana-tay hein!!
issliye agar aisa kuch hota hai jaan kar tou hamay apni mistake accept karni chahiye!!

or jahan tak accident ki baat hai...tou ALLAH behter janta hai k os mein kia hikmet thi!!.likin jo bhi hai...insaan ko kisi k saath bura nahin karna chahiye!!
jaza or saza ALLAH k haath mein hai!!...hamay her cheez bhula kar...banday ko accept karna chahiye!sachay dil say!
ALLAH ghalti maaf karnay wala hai!

this not a thing of forgivness

easy to say javad
forgivenesssss..
who are we to decide that

exactly!!!

saza or jaza ALLAH k haath mein hai!

Smooth_daddy:

Nope, all men are NOT hypocrites - just like all women are NOT bad. There are men and women whose righteous received Allah's testimony. O'course bad apples are on both sides.

sorry if it offended u but i was just givin my opinion in my life experience????????????????

ok!

srk rocks:

Smooth_daddy:

Nope, all men are NOT hypocrites - just like all women are NOT bad. There are men and women whose righteous received Allah's testimony. O'course bad apples are on both sides.

sorry if it offended u but i was just givin my opinion in my life experience????????????????

Glad you understood sorry for you life experience may Allah give peace to your heart

SALL:

easy to say javad
forgivenesssss..
who are we to decide that

Then who will decide it Sall? For what the laws of Allah Almighty are there?

kash_beauty:

exactly!!!

saza or jaza ALLAH k haath mein hai!

kash_beauty:

jaza or saza ALLAH k haath mein hai!!...hamay her cheez bhula kar...banday ko accept karna chahiye!sachay dil say!
ALLAH ghalti maaf karnay wala hai!

Again I will ask, what the laws of Allah Almighty are there for?

kash_beauty:

doesnt matter who it is
bro or sis!

jaan bhooj kar ghalti karnay walay bewakoof hotay hein!!
per...ghalti maaf kar deni chahiye!!
agay ALLAH ki merzi woh akhrat mein kia saza deta hai un ko!


hum kisi ko saza or jaza denay k kabil nahin hein!

ghalati maaf kar deni chahiye unhoon nay aap ka kuch churaya hai jo aap maaf kar dain gi? yeh gunnah maaf karnay ka ikhtyaar sirf Allah ko hai. aur humain ukay sath wohi sulook karna hai jo Allah chahta hai, haan agar wo saza panay kay baad wo aisa hi hai jaisa unsnay gunaah kiya hi nahi, ye Islam kehta hai main nahi.

Jia_ka_chand:

But if a boy and girl (we will name them XY and XX respectively) are in love (or think they are anyway), and they want to get married, but are not mature enough to wait until after marriage to sleep together, and they are also not smart enough to use protection, if that results in pregnancy it is not uhm,,, forgivable?

Yeah yeah I know religiously sex before marriage is haram anyway and God will pass judgement etc. But as humans facing this scenario what would you do, because it depends on you where the couple will stand?

Its not forgiveable, love is not an excuse to do this sin, and the sinners will have to be punished for that. "Whereever the couple stands", or "whatever the senario", if this sin was commited by will, it is not forgiveable.

Jia_ka_chand:

But why call it a galti Kash hunny? I purposely didn't use the word 'mistake' because what if XY and XX don't see it as a mistake, but an action of love?

Ghalti tu ghalati hi hoti hai, even if you dont see it as a mistake.

And what do mean by "action of live"? kia pyaar isay kehtay hain? It means lovers should be allowed to do this "action of love" before marriage, or at least should be forgiven if they do so. What a corrupt thinking Jia!

ZEESHANAHMED:

Jia_ka_chand:

But why call it a galti Kash hunny? I purposely didn't use the word 'mistake' because what if XY and XX don't see it as a mistake, but an action of love?

Ghalti tu ghalati hi hoti hai, even if you dont see it as a mistake.

And what do mean by "action of live"? kia pyaar isay kehtay hain? It means lovers should be allowed to do this "action of love" before marriage, or at least should be forgiven if they do so. What a corrupt thinking Jia!

I agree with you Zee, sex before marriage is wrong both religiously and socially. what is wrose is making an excuse of love for premarried sex. this is why it's so important not to let teenagers free mix with the opposite gender, because a lot of them are not mature enough to realise the differance between love and lust.

kya topic le ker beth gye ho tumn log bhi

what's wrong with the topic?

Jia_ka_chand:

I agree with you Zee, sex before marriage is wrong both religiously and socially. what is wrose is making an excuse of love for premarried sex. this is why it's so important not to let teenagers free mix with the opposite gender, because a lot of them are not mature enough to realise the differance between love and lust.

Love is not an excuse for premarriage sex, but it is common in western countries, and we know very well (if not, we should know that) free mixing with oppisite gender in not allowed in our relegion not just for teenagers but also for any person of any age. Yes, more care should be taken towards teenagers.

Jia_ka_chand:

what's wrong with the topic?

kuch nahi..all is ok

Bazigaar:

Jia_ka_chand:

what's wrong with the topic?

kuch nahi..all is ok

good good and get better soon

i'm tryin to

well once you commit illegal adultury while ur a muslim, u have done the biggesttt sin ever, which is HARAM.

Once a guy came to Prophet Muhammed(SAW) and told him that he commited (Zena)adultury and the Prophet ordered the men to stone that guy to death.

Bush_Blasta:

well once you commit illegal adultury while ur a muslim, u have done the biggesttt sin ever, which is HARAM.

Once a guy came to Prophet Muhammed(SAW) and told him that he commited (Zena)adultury and the Prophet ordered the men to stone that guy to death.

i thought biggest sin was "shirk"

i think, biggest sin here, means "Gunah e Kabeera", there are many such sins, but SHIRK is the biggest sin that Allah will never forgive.

ohh acha got it

also, sum people here like SALL said that you shouldnt bring Islam into this,
but however, U HAVE TO because thats what Islam is meant for. When u look at an issue, always look at in an Islamic way also!
it seriously pisses me off when people say dont bring religion into a big issue like this.

people who are Muslim have to beware of adultry. and to prevent this, that is why Allah made hanging out with girlz(or guys) alone in the room a sin.

ZEESHANAHMED:

SALL:

easy to say javad
forgivenesssss..
who are we to decide that

Then who will decide it Sall? For what the laws of Allah Almighty are there?

listen Z
we never use LAWS OF ALLAH ALMIGHTY to spend our life
y we only remember these laws only to punish someone,, and most of the time that someone is a woman

u can not choose different articles of that law according to ur own comfort,, either u accept it all,, ya phir bilkul nhai,,
that s all i wanted to say,, try to understand

Bush_Blasta:

also, sum people here like SALL said that you shouldnt bring Islam into this,
but however, U HAVE TO because thats what Islam is meant for. When u look at an issue, always look at in an Islamic way also!
it seriously pisses me off when people say dont bring religion into a big issue like this.

people who are Muslim have to beware of adultry. and to prevent this, that is why Allah made hanging out with girlz(or guys) alone in the room a sin.

ppl like ME
i thought i was the only one of that type



listen dear,,, i already said ISLAM is not here JUST TO PUNISH ppl,,, it s a way of life,, when u and ur society has nothing in common with islam,, then y do u insist to punish in an islamic way
coz it s easier for u to get rid of things u dont like ??
ISLAM mei pasand na pasand ki baat nahi hai,,, baat sirf sahi aur galt ki hai,,,

me ne sirfff itna kaha k jiss law k tehat hum log mard ko araam se maaf kar dete hein,, usssi law k tehet aurat ki maafi kyun nahi ho sakti,, ya phir uss bache ki jiss ka iss sab mei koi kasoor nahi


beleive me i know quite a few musliim guyz jo bohott mistakes kar chuke hein,,, but none of them were punished of rejected by their family,, they all are living hapily with their parents wives..............
where is islam in all that


adultry is a sin,, and it must b punished
and when i say WHO R WE TO PUNISH THEM,, iss ka matlab sirff yeh hai k hum log kuch jaane samjhe bager kissi pe bhi ungli utha dete hein,,, hakeekat kya hai kissi ko maloom hi nahi hota,, hamare han raped gals k upper tak adultry ka ilzam laga diya jata hai,, even if a gal is abused she s afraid to talk abt it coz she knows in a way or other saza ussi ko mile gi

saza dena ya maaf karna Khuda k haath mei hai,, islamic laws pe mujhe koi eitraz nahi hai,,, par islamic laws ko apply karne waale pehle apne gireban mei to jhankein
most of the time adultry ki saza kanoon nahi apne hi family waale dete hein,,, unhein yeh right kiss ne diya can u tell me that ??
iss sab mei islam kahan hai


pppl like me live try to face the reality,, theories r beautiful yar par jab tak hum unhein apply na karein unn ka koi faida nahi,,,
unfortunately islamic laws r theories never applied in our society


i hope ppl like U got my point

Smooth_daddy:

srk rocks:

Smooth_daddy:

Nope, all men are NOT hypocrites - just like all women are NOT bad. There are men and women whose righteous received Allah's testimony. O'course bad apples are on both sides.

sorry if it offended u but i was just givin my opinion in my life experience????????????????

Glad you understood sorry for you life experience may Allah give peace to your heart

hey thanx but i was just sayin wh@ my friend had 2 deal with

ZEESHANAHMED:

Again I will ask, what the laws of Allah Almighty are there for?

jo rule acha laga!
osay follow kia
or jo nahin laga!
osay chord dia!

ZEESHANAHMED:

ghalati maaf kar deni chahiye unhoon nay aap ka kuch churaya hai jo aap maaf kar dain gi? yeh gunnah maaf karnay ka ikhtyaar sirf Allah ko hai. aur humain ukay sath wohi sulook karna hai jo Allah chahta hai, haan agar wo saza panay kay baad wo aisa hi hai jaisa unsnay gunaah kiya hi nahi, ye Islam kehta hai main nahi.

moun kam kholein

jab maaf karnay ka ikhtiyar ALLAH ko hai tou phir app baray kab say ho gay k unhay saza dein!!
saza or jaza ALLAH ka kaam hai!!
jo rules hein!!...un ko follow karein..kisi nay nahin roka app ko!

ISLAM yeh bhi kehta hai k maaf karna achi baat hai!
islam ki ek baat yaad hai or dusri nahin!!
wahhh
muslim ho tou aisa

kash_beauty:

ZEESHANAHMED:

Again I will ask, what the laws of Allah Almighty are there for?

jo rule acha laga!
osay follow kia
or jo nahin laga!
osay chord dia!

ye rules say bachnay ka acha bahana hai, very good