Awww thankyou people
aap ko bhi mubarak ho, hopefully we'll all have a great summer really looking forward to it, no studying and no hassle.Can't wait

lol it's snowing here lol, a very promising start

With one the other comes as standard............it's a package deal.

Keep it up sister

Congrats, ul be a great mod, if you stay out of trouble.......not that you won't, koi shak nahin

It's beautiful, is it true that women are not allowed to go inside?

Not many know the importance of their parents, my mum is partially sighted if i could i'd give her my eyes any day. if i could i'd give her my life. Kids disrespect their parents and hurt them. They are only affecting their own Akhirat.

MISS SCORPIO said:

And after reading all that, what's your personal opinion on the subject?

lol, was it too much to digest? it's by far more bitesize compared to your articles. My personal opinion is above the pasted article sweet Pea. In case you missed it:

SohniKuddi said:

If you're not looking at it from a religious point of view, arguments against abortion suggest that it is murder, but the definition of murder is the unlawful killing of a human being by another. When is a foetus a human being? theres much debate on this subject, some stating that once fertilisation has taken place and others saying that after so many weeks a foetus is living.

Explained: It's murder until it can be stated that the foetus is 'living'

about the rape issue Smooth D raised, thats debatable, quite true too. with a good enough reason abortion could be an option.

and the above is my opinnion

lol, apni Gauri ko bhi kehna

lol thats not even true, i know more men that can't keep a secret than women

lol either those are really light or that bike is really strong

kitna piyaara bacha hai

he was a mixer tap right?

thanks, lol i know you have links, gets some of your friends to pray too, lol the more the merrier..

all you JB folks, dua karro, you will be rewarded in heaven

yeh but what i don't understand is that people are complaining that they're not allowed to swear and they can't be themselves, why don't you go to a website that allows you to express yourself, i mean, i have nothing against people letting off some steam we all need to do that. There are other forums that allow you to use such language, JB isn't the only forum on the internet, here you've gotta be who they want you to be.

about the cover page................no comment

thank you SRK

bass aap ki dua chahiye, luck shuck ke department mein koi vacancy nahin he lol

eshajam said:

yaha hu jee aur kaha
aap be na

LOL tussi vi?

ONLYARBAB said:

hay kahan woh anybosy know

lol nahin na, mera JB mems se aur koi link nahin he, yahan he aa ke chit chat

London_Girl said:

wo hain kahan?

~CHANDNI~ said:

miss u   sohni

i'm here sisters, missing u loads 2

Awwwwwwwww, SRK I can always rely on you to make me smile


i'm hereeeee, so sorry couldn't come online, been busy, in final year at uni, and if i'm not at uni i'm at work or i'm doing my assignments

If you're not looking at it from a religious point of view, arguments against abortion suggest that it is murder, but the definition of murder is the unlawful killing of a human being by another. When is a foetus a human being? theres much debate on this subject, some stating that once fertilisation has taken place and others saying that after so many weeks a foetus is living.

I found arguments for and against in a womens issues site

Pro-Life
1. Since life begins at conception, abortion is akin to murder as it is the act of taking human life. Abortion is in direct defiance of the commonly accepted idea of the sanctity of human life
2. No civilized society permits one human to intentionally harm or take the life of another human without punishment, and abortion is no different.
3. Adoption is a viable alternative to abortion and accomplishes the same result. And with 1.5 million American families wanting to adopt a child, there is no such thing as an unwanted child.
4. An abortion can result in medical complications later in life; the risk of ectopic pregnancies doubles, and the chance of a miscarriage and Pelvic Inflammatory Disease also increases.
5. In the instance of rape and incest, proper medical care can ensure that a woman will not get pregnant. Abortion punishes the unborn child who committed no crime; instead, it is the perpetrator who should be punished.
6. Abortion should not be used as another form of contraception.
7. For women who demand complete control of their body, control should include preventing the risk of unwanted pregnancy through the responsible use of contraception or, if that is not possible, through abstinence.
8. Many Americans who pay taxes are opposed to abortion, therefore it’s morally wrong to use tax dollars to fund abortion.
9. Those who choose abortions are often minors or young women with insufficient life experience to understand fully what they are doing. Many have lifelong regrets afterwards.
10. Abortion frequently causes intense psychological pain and stress.


Pro-Choice
1. Nearly all abortions take place in the first trimester, when a fetus cannot exist independent of the mother. As it is attached by the placenta and umbilical cord, its health is dependent on her health, and cannot be regarded as a separate entity as it cannot exist outside her womb.
2. The concept of personhood is different from the concept of human life. Human life occurs at conception, but fertilized eggs used for in vitro fertilization are also human lives and those not implanted are routinely thrown away. Is this murder, and if not, then how is abortion murder?
3. Adoption is not an alternative to abortion, because it remains the woman’s choice whether or not to give her child up for adoption. Statistics show that very few women who give birth choose to give up their babies - less than 3% of white unmarried women and less than 2% of black unmarried women.
4. Abortion is a safe medical procedure. The vast majority of women – 88% - who have an abortion do so in their first trimester. Medical abortions have less than 0.5% risk of serious complications and do not affect a woman’s health or future ability to become pregnant or give birth.
5. In the case of rape or incest, forcing a woman made pregnant by this violent act would cause further psychological harm to the victim. Often a woman is too afraid to speak up or is unaware she is pregnant, thus the morning after pill is ineffective in these situations.
6. Abortion is not used as a form of contraception. Pregnancy can occur even with responsible contraceptive use. Only 8% of women who have abortions do not use any form of birth control, and that is due more to individual carelessness than to the availability of abortion.
7. The ability of a woman to have control of her body is critical to civil rights. Take away her reproductive choice and you step onto a slippery slope. If the government can force a woman to continue a pregnancy, what about forcing a woman to use contraception or undergo sterilization?
8. Taxpayer dollars are used to enable poor women to access the same medical services as rich women, and abortion is one of these services. Funding abortion is no different from funding a war in the Mideast. For those who are opposed, the place to express outrage is in the voting booth.
9. Teenagers who become mothers have grim prospects for the future. They are much more likely to leave of school; receive inadequate prenatal care; rely on public assistance to raise a child; develop health problems; or end up divorced.
10. Like any other difficult situation, abortion creates stress. Yet the American Psychological Association found that stress was greatest prior to an abortion, and that there was no evidence of post-abortion syndrome.

Cathy said:

And yea ... Dis should be moved to religious corner so ppl wid actuall Knowledge of Islam May answere this!

Errr, thats the thing, like i said above, i'm not sure whether there is islamic ruling concerning the matter. I'm not wanting only religious explanations i'm asking whether there are other reasons as to why women can't drive as the one given doesn't really answer the question.

and people in this section have no knowledge???

Dr Zakir Naik, is an very learned induvidual and his lectures are of great benefit.


I found some information in another book this has somewhat made it a little clearer, to avoid being done for plagiarism, I scanned the cover so that Muhammad bin Abdul-Aziz Al-Musnad won't feel the need to sue me.








Hope you can read them, the book was quite fat and i couldn't fit it in the scanner

- Wisal - said:

if they learn how to drive, they might run away..i dont know, one possible reason

driving symbolizes freedom, and women have no freedom in SA

lol maghar aurat paidal bhi to bhaag sakti hai na, hum yeh to nahi keh sakte ke SA ki auratein ko koi azadi nahin he, yeh bhi kissi suboot ke baghair sach nahin ho sakta. Jaise kaafir log kehte hein ke islam mein aurat ko azadi nahin de ja sakti, is statement mein to koi sachai nahin he.

Aasera said:

(sohni siso gud question)

sab ki posts parhi hain

waisay us zamanay main cars to hoti nahin thien
to koi pakki reason to mil nahin sakti i guess

thankyou baby sis, but we do know that Islam covers every aspect of life whether modern life or way back then. I just thought maybe there are pointers which would help answer the question.

dosselpoh said:

i agree wid a general statement dat "women can't drive" horrible driverz..

but neva heard dat dey r not allowed to drive..

Nah ah, women are the best drivers, statistically too. Yes, but as far as I know it is only in Saudi Arabia that the are not allowed to drive.

sun_shine said:

shahrukh khan said:

women can join politics but they cant drive

I think Islam main sarbarah e Hukumat khwateen nahi ho sakti.

hm, ho sakta hai, women are restricted from leading, if you have any references then please post.

Star_eyes said:

Since it is not in relegious section and since I don't have Islamic knowledge on this matter as well, I am assuming that in Saudi Arabia women do complete hijab. By completeness I mean they have to cover their eyes as well. With hijab it becomes difficult to have clear vision all the time because it might hinder with it.
Also, while driving it almost seems impossible to adjust hijaab if you need to. It might lead to some serious accidents and thus there goes their rule of not allowing women to drive.

You mean the Niqaab? hmm thats true, however there are many women here that drive with the niqaab and have no problem. My driving instructor a few years back was a full niqaabi and she taught people to drive. Me...I wear the hijaab, i've never faced a hijaab adjustment prblem (lol) while driving.

I still think Arabs have an alterior motive.

Miss mine said:

SohniKuddi said:

mere liye bhi....mera kaafi purana ho chuka he. sano vi thora taste shaste dasso, get me with the times and that

welcum sohni kuddi

for u > Aap ho "nazuk se ek titli"

Awwww thankyou baby sis

Miss mine said:

       Sohni Kuddi

     

It's so pretty

welcome, enjoy your stay

mere liye bhi....mera kaafi purana ho chuka he. sano vi thora taste shaste dasso, get me with the times and that

pretty sad, y don't you write about how you're gona win her bak instead of how she left you, maybe it'l come true. we can't just sit down and feel sorry for ourselves.

udaaslarki24, i'm so sorry to hear. obviously i haven't a clue how you feel being single, but it's extremely touching and i could only hope for the best. Knowing you're stuck in a loveless marriage for the rest of your life is terrible. In our religion where a couple do not love each other they have the permission for divorce, now i'm not saying you should but the option is there.

So he lives to impress your family? but does he not understand that his life and future are with you and not your family? he'll have to raise a family with you not with your family, he must live for your happiness and you for his. maybe you should talk. y don't you ask him what he wants or get your close family to discuss, does he know how you feel? i mean theres no point in jumping to conclusions if you don't know the full story.

Rahi baat sabbar ki, insaan mein itni taakat nahi ke apni poori zindagi sabbar karte karte guzzar jaye, there is no purpose in life, if you're married to someone who doesn't love you, how do you raise a family??? be patient all your life, waste it and then leave the world without accomplishing anything? marriage and family are a part of faith.

again udaaslarki24 i sympathise with you completely. i hope you resolve your problems and wish you all the happiness.