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sun_shine said:
Sab aik jaisay nahi hotay.kuch log Islam ko apnay faiday k liye use kartay hain per sab aik say nahi hotay.Media main hamesha madrassa ko terrorism k saath milatay hain per i think k agar saaray Madrassay main parhnay waalay terrorist hain to Mr Bush konsay madrassay say hain jo k World Biggest Terrorist hain.
No one said anything about Madrassas being the "training school" of terrorists. If that were true, we would not find people in other countries committing or trying to commit terroristic acts.
Religion in general has been used for one's advantage. Babar used religion to marry a Hindu girl. He got his actioned stamped by so called "Mullahs" of that era. A Hindu Raja (can't recall the name yet) married his own sister. Again this was Oked by the "Pandits".
My point is that one cannot blame religion for the shortcomings in life.
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If you are implying that I should give you some money, then you are out of luck. I just paid 3K for my ticket to pakistan. I still need money for shopping and stuff .
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Lets look at it this way. If there are no madrassas, where else these kids are going to go? Most probably they will end up in some gang etc. At least this way they are learning something. Just because there are a few that cause problem, does not mean that all of them are a mess
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Ashii said:
ahhhhhhhhh okkkie
and wot abt the parents/families of these kids arent they aware of wots going on in these institutes
Well, the parents are busy trying to make the living. Also, these madrassas are respected very well in the community. People tend to see the Instructors (Imams) as pious people who are blessed. It is the common believe that kids are taught by people who know about Islam. Its far better than these kids growing up on the street and joining gangs etc.
As I have said before that the idea is noble. There are just a few that have given bad name to entire system. We cannot take the actions of few and blame every single one of them. For a large number of people these madrassas do provide what they are setup for.
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I am happy to hear that you don't wear saris . I was about to call your mom if you had said yes.
Boycott always works. The news was on bbc, and yet there does not seem to be any action from Indian Govt or any human rights group. That is the sad part of it.
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I do not see anything wrong with xtreme's post. unless his post has already been deleted.
He does make a good point. Understanding Islam and following it is each individual's responsibility. One does not need to follow Shia or Sunni version of Islam. Islam as a whole has the ability to mold itself to any era. Its the understanding of the people who insist on Islam's rules being written in stone that complicates the matter. I am not saying that the interpretation of Islam according to these Ulema's is wrong. I am just saying that if those scholars were here, they might interpret Islam a little differently.
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Ashii said:
sharmili,, ehemmm it sounds strange when a paki/muslim living in the usa says such things abt afghans living in pak
I personally do not have anything against people who are civilized. But for every civilized person, there is one who is not. Those are the people I have problem with.
Look at it either from the perspective of being a Muslim or Pakistani, you will find Afghans at fault. There are hundred of thousands of Afghani people who want to live peacefully in our country. I don't have any issues with them. But these people should help the govt root out the bad Afghanis amongst them.
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just because govt is not doing anything against Laal Masjid does not imply that govt is behind it. Its not the Lal Masjid govt is afraid of. Its the opposition that will entire take it out of proportion that govt fears
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Rohani ilaaj is nothing but a scam. People who claim that they can heal people by making them recite surahs etc, just want your money. The same people will go to the doctor the day they get headache. I wonder what happens to their Rohani Ilaaj then.
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What change they are fighting for? What system they are fighting for? They are fighting for nothing. They are marely protesting to support a system that is broken. At the end of the day, these protest will not bring any change, but to get a lot of people killed. Who is going to take care of their kids when they are gone?
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Its not about being short visioned. Look at last 100 years, what have we done? What has been done to stop the hate among Muslims? 1400 years, and we have yet to fix the Sunni/Shia dispute. What exactly is Islam? Whose definitions I should follow?
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He is just being stupid. He does not have any idea about the problems of Afghani people. I very much doubt that he even understands how the people in Afghanistan are living. For crying out loud, he spent a great deal of his time in Pakistan, and now he wants to create trouble for his old country. tsk tsk tsk. He needs to understand that there are over 2.5 millions Afghans living in Pakistan sending money over to his country.
I think Pakistan should follow IRan, and kick all Afghans out of Pakistan (My apologies to those Afghans who are nice people. I am sure majority of them are, but I think its time to either stop your brothern, or let us deal with all of you.
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They fired on us. They should have seen that coming. I think KArzai is trying to blame his failure on pakistan. He is trying to convert the attention to Pakistan by getting his army fire at Pakistani posts/patrols.