Jia_ka_chand said:

Okay peeps in actual fact muslims don't wish eachother "Happy Islamic New Year!" beacuse the year starts out with tragedy. Anyone looking for information regarding this can visit this very creditable website.

http://www.answering-ansar.org/
or
http://www.answering-ansar.org/index.php

yeh tu aap nay khalis SHI'AH firke ki baat ki hai aur yeh website bhi unhi ki hai, phir tu aap yeh bhi kahain gi kay sari dunya mourn karna shuru kar de unki tarah
sirf Muharram hi main nahi, doorsay maheenoon main bhi buhat log shaheed huay hain even on EID days, tu kia EID manana bhi chor dain?
aur hamaray liye tu sab say bari shakhsiyat humaray NABI hain, then aur four KHULAFA jab unkay liye itni feelings nahi tu kisi aur kayliye kyun?

khansak said:

OH MY LORD
Forgive my sins and my ignorance and my exceeding the limits (boundaries of righteousness) in all my deeds and what YOU know better than I. O ALLAH! Forgive my mistakes, those done intentionally or out of my ignorance or (without) or with seriousness, and I confess that all such mistakes are done by me. Oh ALLAH! Forgive my sins of the past and of the future which I did openly or secretly. YOU are the ONE WHO makes the things go before, and YOU are the ONE WHO delays them, and YOU are the Omnipotent." (Bukhari, vol., pp. 271, #407)

please correct it, it is not OH MY LORD, it is O MY LORD. OH means something else.

SALL said:

hmmm,,,,
not sure abt yeh info kitni sach hai ya nahi
but seeeee,,, for me 786 is like a sign or a symbol

using 786 doesnt mean that before doing anything u ll say 786 instead of "Bismillah"
but it s like cross is symbol of Christianism,,, Crescent is used as a symbol for Islam,,, same with 786 it s like a symbol... matlab k if u write it on a paper to be-adbi ka darr bhi itna nahi rehta (hmm i may b wrong)

lemme give a little example,,, my e mail add is
- - - - - 786@.....
me koi aur numbers bhi use kar sakti thi, as my date or yr of birth,, or any other important date,, but 786 use karna mujhe behtar laga,, coz id prefer to b recognised as a muslim... ab apne e mail add mei i cant use pooora "Bismillah"

jahan tak "kali mata" ka taluk hai to,,,, i dont realy believe this

hmmm... SALL wonderful !

1- "Kali Mata" kay baray main tu believe nahi, how can you believe that 786 is a real representation for Bismillah.

2- 786 is a SYMBOL for Bismillah, well, then why not for "Lord Hari Karishna", agar aap ko koi email ..786@.. parh kar Muslim samajh sakta hai tu kia Hari Karishna ka follower nahi samajh sakta?

3- Again SYMBOL, hmmm... if your name counts to 420 like Bismillah counts to 786, can I and everyone else call you 420. After all, it will be your symbol.

4- Agar papers etc par Bismillah poori likhnay say be adbi ho sakti hai, tu poora QURAN bhi tu papers par hi likha hai, tu QURAN poora hi in counting letters main convert kar dena chahiye, kia khyal hai?

I will post a little more about that, just wait.

Hijri

Name of the Islamic lunar calendar. It took its name from the early Muslims who migrated from Makkah to Madinah, and commences from the date of Prophet Muhammad's Hijrah, (S.A.W.), which he made with Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with him), in 622 C.E.
The months of the Islamic calendar are:
1. Muharram 2. Safar 3. Rabi al-Awal 4. Rabi al-Thani 5. Jumada al-Awal 6. Jumada al-Thani 7. Rajab 8. Sha'ban 9. Ramadan 10. Shawal 11. Dhul Qi'da 12. Dhul Hijjah

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Happy new year to every Muslim.

shahrukh khan said:

Smooth_daddy said:

shahrukh khan said:

lolz...sirf fos ko dekh kar keh diya

actually hoped to see it in religion forum and fos. I didn't even know serious section already started.

HAAN TU GAUR SE DEKHO...SIRF FOS KO NA DEKHO...I HAD STARTED IN SENTIMENTS,F16 IN SERIOUS TALK..

TRUE FAN OF SRK, iss main naraz honay kia baat hai agar unhoon nay nahi dekha jo aap aisay bol rahay hain? and by the way, Sentiments main aisa konsa topic hai jo aap nay start kia hai? name it please, haan friend_16 nay zaroor start kya hai "~New yr of Muslims..~" serious corner main.

shaista said:

thanks king!!!!

shaista ki masoomiyat tu dekhiaye karbala par post karnay ko kaha tha par King ne post kar dya just Muharram and 10th Muharram par, magar phir phir bhi thanks keh rahi hain , see

shaista said:

but if anyone has some information about karbala plz place it here....

King ki posts main tu karbala ka kaheen zikar hi nahi , aur hota bhi kaisay.

Rizwan bhai CASTE ki tu samajh aati hai, par te RACE kia hai? aur abhi jo main ne aik Dr ki statement di thi us main RACE ko aik compatibility issue kaha gya hai (look at the paragraph in bold) which should considered. what you say about it. is ko define tu karain pehlay.

shahrukh khan said:

what a topic

arey aap tu "under 14" hain aap yahaan kyun aa agaey , aap ko kia maloom topic kia hota hai.

SALL, please mujhay bhi send karna, I want to know more about her .

Amirul Mumineen

Commander of the faithful. Title of the leader of the Islamic dominion after the death of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.). But, unfortunately, we don't have one now , one of the major causes of te degradation of the Muslims today.

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The Prophet’s Family Marrying Outside the Family:

Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, former President of the Islamic Society of North America, states:

"First of all, let me correct some misconceptions. Syeds or Bani Hashim who belong to the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) are not a special or superior caste in Islam. They are not like Brahmins in Hinduism. We love and respect our Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and his family. So we also respect his family, and we even extend this respect to all the people who belong to his extended family. But they have no extra privileges in Islam. They are not better Muslims simply because they are Syeds. It is not right for them to call other Muslims "regular" and consider themselves as "more" Muslims. The Syed women are not like “mothers” to other non-Syed Muslims. Only the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) are Mothers of the Believers. No other women from the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) were given this title.

Also, there is no prohibition in Islam for a Syed man to marry a non-Syed woman or a Syed woman to marry a non-Syed man. Islam spread in the Indian subcontinent because it was egalitarian. It was against the caste system, but unfortunately Muslims soon adopted the Hindu caste system and made their own "dhat" (caste) system.

All Muslims are equal. The best among them are those who are most conscious of Allah. Allah says, "Surely the noblest of you in the sight of Allah are those who are the most pious among you." (Al-Hujurat: 13)

Thus any Muslim can marry any other Muslim male or female. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) himself arranged the marriage of his cousin Zaynab with his slave Zayd.

Scholars have spoken about compatibility and equality in marriage. It is good to consider the compatibility of morals, manners, religiousness, age, education, physical looks, country of origin, race, ethnicity, family background, et cetera. These things make marriage more successful and permanent. The more the bride and groom are of equal status, the more suitable they are for each other. But these things are only as recommendations for marriage. They are common sense rules; they are not conditions for the marriage in Islam.

The only marriages that are prohibited are those that are mentioned in the Qur'an in Surat an-Nisa': 23, and Allah says in the following verse, "… except for these women, all others are lawful, provided you seek them in marriage…" (An-Nisa': 24)."

Welcome Jia ( or Chand, may I say?) to JB .

hmmm... iss wakt tu online nahi hai laikin i hope phir nahi kahaygi aisa. aap ko tu samjhanay ki zaroorat nahi hai na?

Thanks ki kia baat hai iss main , kashi ko samjhain na kay aisi batain mat karay mazak main bhi.

hmmm... yeh tu kuch ziada bol aap ne kash, ALLAH na karay kuch aisa ho, aur Rani ko kitni fikar hai aap ki May ALLAH bless both of you.

Main nay yeh aik Muslim kay point of view say hi poochi thi, Islam ko koi nuksaan nahi puhanchay ga chahay kuch log karain ya ziada , aur image tab kharab hoga jab kisi ko yeh maloom na ho kay yeh HARAAM kam aik Muslim kay liye HARAAM hai aur wo yeh samajh bethay kay yeh allowed hai Muslims kay liye. Laikin agar maloom ho tu ??

Now lets suppose koi Muslim koi ghalat kaam karta hai aur kehta hai t is right to do that, now it is something that harms aur religion. Bcoz yeh kaam religion main shamil ho jaeyga aur Islam jo tha wo nahi rahay ga. Our Prophet said,
“JIS NAY KISI BID’ATI KI TA’ZEEM KI, US NAY ISLAAM KO DHANAY MAIN USKI MADAD KI”.
Iss say at least 3 batain clear hoti hain.

1- Religion main bida’at ka nikalna Islam ko dhanay kay barabar hai.
2- Bida’at nikalnay wala Islam ko dhanay ki koshish karta hai aur kisi taazeem ka mustahik nahi.
3- Bida’ati ki tazeem karnay wala bida’ati ka helper hai.

Now tell me jis cheez say BAZAT E KHUD Islam ko nuksaan puhanchta hai kay usay islaam ko dhanay kay barabar kha gya hai kia wo HARAAM say ziada buri nahi? waiting for your comments.

SALL said:

Z Z ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz...
i am blaming our society,, aur ISLAM ka naam me sirfff iss liye leti hu coz WE R PROUD MUSLIMS (Khuda na khasta me religion ko galt nahi keh rahi)

i said something earlier
it mite sounds like a movie dialogue par hai sach
"bura koore ka dher nahi hota,,, bura woh log hote hein jo iss dher ko paida karte hein aur barhne se nahi rokte"

a gal born in such family,,,,, khud aap batao uss k liye achai kya aur burai kya ???
im not saying at alllll that these ppl r innocent,,, bilkullll nahi woh log galt hein,,, par woh akele sab cheez k zimmedar nahi hein



i ll answer ur post in detail later,, abhi hum serious hone k mood mei nahi hein

arey koi iss koray kay dher ko hatanay de bhi tu na, aap serious honay kay baad post kar lain tu phir main iss par bhi kuch kahoonga. aur yeh baat tu main nay bhi likhi hai kay wo akailay zimmadaar nahi ghoor say parhain naaaaaaa.

Ijma

Ijma refers to the consensus of eminent scholars (mujtahidun) of Islam in a given age. Ijma comes next to the Quran and the Sunnah as a source of Islamic doctrines.

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mera kia kusoor hai agar main ne pehlay A say post kar dya , but again A, aap apni khahish poori kar lain ab.

hmm... copy paste , let is get to my knowledge kay main aap kay kisi topic main copy paste kia ho.

3rd point, starting in reverse. Ok. First, answer one question. If someone (a Muslim) commits an EVIL (that is clearly recognized and forbidden), does it present any danger to Islam itself. I mean to say “kia kisi Muslim kay kisi burai main involve honay say Islam ko koi nuksaan puhanchta hai? Kia Allah kay Deen main koi kami aa jati hai, ya wo kanoon (jo Muslims ko is EVIL say rokta hai) ghalat ya suspicious ho jata hai?”

Answer that then I will continue.

Ansar

Ansar means the 'Helpers'. It refers to the Muslims of Madina who helped the Muhajirin (immigrants) of Makka in the process of the latter's settling down in the new environment.

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friend_16 said:

waisay i was thinking jo loog bahir jatay hein un kay frnds (non-muslims) to hotay hein .. aur kuch tu zaroorat ki waja say bhee hotay hein kia ye ghalat hai?

Friendship kay jo meaning Quran main liye gaey hain wo hain kisi ko "mehboob rakhna", "aziz rakhna" jo sirf muslims kay sath makhsoos hain. Albatta Allah nay har insaan kay sath, chahay wo muslim ho ya non muslim, husn e saluk ka hukam dya hai.

Assalam o Alaikum,

iss topic main aap nay teen different (in my opinion, maybe i am wrong) topics ko combine kar dya. Let me summarize them.

1-     kuch log faraiz ko sunnah se ziada ehmiyat detey hain, jo kay ghalat hai (khujoor, pani). Yahaan farz aur sunnat ka ada karna under discussion hai. And I think that is the real topic here.
2-     Wo log jo ghalat tareekay say farz ada kartay hain (infact farz tu ada hua hi nahi, consider it) un logoon se behtar hain jo farz ada kartay hi nahi (firke wali baat). Yahaan logoon ka faraiz ada karna, na karna, aur ada karnay ka tareeka under discussion hai.
3-     Kuch Aamal jo sunnat nahi hain, jinhain Bida’at kaha jata hai, aap ka guess hai kay wo HARAAM nahi hain, so they neither these deeds nor their followers should be condemned. Yahaan sunnat aur bida’at under discussion hain. (waisay aap ka guess mere khyal main tu ghalat hai I will explain it latter).

Mere khyal main tu yeh teenon kafi different discussions hain, specially the third one kyunkay baat tu yeh kahi ja rahi thi kay log sunnat ko “intniii” ehmiyat detey hain tu phir baat 180 degree par bida’at tak kaisay chali gae. Meri samajh main nahi aa raha hai main in ko aapas main kaisay relate karoon, so I need your help.

Assalam o Alaikum,

SALL said:

hmmm,,,
okkk back to the topic

i may hurt few ppl here,,, so if u dont have guts to face the reality u better walk out rite now..


without comparing our culture n country to others let s have a look at our history,,, yep sub-continental muslim history,,
beside all other good things muslim emprors are well known coz of their 'harems'.. Jahangir's (aka Anarkali's Saleem, son of Akbar and husband of Noor jahan) harem was said to have abt 6000 mistresses. throughout the Sultanate periode we find references to the existance of prost, female singers n dancin gals whose order was presided over by important ppl of 'shahi darbar'
Shahi mohalla located so close to shahi Qila must ring DINGG DONG bells in ur head,, haan ???

one more crucial issue is,,,, role a society assigns to its women. In Pak (a muslim country) prost in its ugliest form is the direct consequence of denial of women's inherit dignity n rights.
okkk,,, let me make it clear,, im sure aap ko samajhne mei phir galti hui hogi,,,,, but just try to understand,, think for a moment k pak mei prost ko kinn naamon se pukara jata hai,, zahir hai ghatya language mei but stilll these words exist,, and try to analyse these words...
for the moment i ve only 3 words in mind,, and teeno ka matlab hai,,, "kaam karne wali" and "bahir jaane wali" a woman who earns her livelihood ?????
dont tell me that it doesnt mean anything to u,, keep in mind k kissi bhi mulk ya kaum ki language unn ki history aur culture ka reflection hoti hai
does it mean sab bahir jane wali aur kaam karne wali aurtein galt hein ???



one quest,,,
do u really think these BAD WOMEN are the EVIL
"seducers" "home-breakers" "distroyers of the male mind" and "corrupters of the youth"
or there s something else hidden deep in our society,, jo humein sirf sachai ka aik rukh dikhati hai, woh rukh jiss mei HUM log nahi hein

SALL buhat achi takreer kar leiti hain aap, i am impressed. jahaan tak is burai ka talluk hai na tu yeh tu doosri buhat si buraiyoon ki tarah hamesha se hai, koi iss kay khilaf koi step lena bhi chahay tu leney nahi dya jata, why? hum sab janatay hain, but I will explain it latter.

Muslim history??? theek, main nahi kehta jo aap ne likha wo ghalat hai, but change it from "muslim history" to "subcontinent history". Aap ko achi tarah pata hai muslim hona kia hota hai, Jahangir kay baap Akbar kay baray main bhi maloom hona chahiye kay he was no more a muslim us nay tu aik nya deen “Deen e Elahi” bana liya tha aur hindu aurtoon say shadi bhi ki, aur us nay jo aulad chori wo us say behtar nahi thi aur aap isay “muslim” history keh kar Muslims aur Islam kay baray main koi acha tassur nahi de rahi hain.

Jahan tak 6000 mistresses ki baat hai tu I will not deny it but I want to know what is the source of this information and don’t say me that “main ne suna hai”, I want the source aur source bhi wo jis par aitabar kiya ja sakay after all kisi kay baray main itna kuch kehnay ka kuch tu proof dena chahiye.

“denial of women's inherit dignity n rights”, please explain which inherit dignity and rights have been denied to women of Pakistan which are given to them by Islam but not Pakistani government and people (I am not defending our government), and if it is so the people who deny are what percentage of the people of Pakistan?

Baar baar aap kehti hain, bulkay kafi log kehtay hain, Pak muslim country, muslim state, Islamic state etc, yahi ab tu Islam aur Pakistan kay kay logoon ki majority ka Muslim hona bhi Pakistan kay liye aik tanna ban gya hai. Let me make it clear, Pakistan is not an Islamic state, naam kay sath “Islami Jamhooriya” likh denay say koi country Islamic state nahi ho jata, kia yahaan koi kanoon aisa hai jo Islam kay mutabiq ho? Kia kabhi kisi chor kar hath katay gaey, kisi ko sangsaar kiya gya? Never! Yahaan sirf majority muslims ki hai, kanoon ghairoon ka hi chalta hai waja kia hai I think everyone knows that. Par phir bhi Allah ka shukar hai buhat say doosray countries ki nisbat buhat behtar hai.

"kaam karne wali", "bahir jaane wali", “kissi bhi mulk ya kaum ki language unn ki history aur culture ka reflection hoti hai”, Firstly, bahr jana kaam karna tu ghalat nahi hai agar jo kaam kiya jar aha hai wo theek hai. Secondly, now tell me again in prosts kay liye yeh alfaz use karnay walay aakhir kitnay log hain jo aap poori Pakistani nation ko aur unkay culture ko blame kar rahi hain? If you say it is whole Pakistani nation then you will have to prove it before saying anything.

“does it mean sab bahir jane wali aur kaam karne wali aurtein galt hein ???” absolutely not of course, just bahi ja kar kaam karna nahi bulkay ghalat kaam karna bura hai. Again I will say here, jo log prosts ko “kaam karnay wali” kehtay hain wo hain kon aur aisa kehnay say unka maksad kia hai? Yeh wohi log hain jo is prosts kay “clients” hain not the whole Pakistani nation. Unka maksad yeh hai kay iss ghatya kaam ko koi muazziz naam de kar chupaya jaey ya popular na honay dya jaey. Obviously that should be condemned par is ka yeh matlab tu hargiz nahi banta kay sab kaam karnay wali aurtain ghalat hain.

“do u really think these BAD WOMEN are the EVIL”, EVIL to sirf wo burai hai jo wo BAD WOMEN kar rahi hain, but It does not mean that they are not BAD whatever the reason behind. Burai karnay walay ko hi bura kaha jaeyga. I am not saying kay hum bilkul masoom hain, is main har society ka bhi kuch na kuch role hota hai. Aap ne kuch reasons di theen kay yeh log kyun aisa kartay hain

1- money
2- force
3- we are not going to accept them, even if they want to get rid of this EVIL.

MONEY, ya tu kuch logoon ko ratoon raat AMEER honay ka shok hota hai, ya phir POVERTY causes it. Poverty insaan ka IMAAN kamzoor sakti hai as out Prophet said “Kareeb hai kay muflisi kufr tak puhancha day”, but obviously yeh poors kay liye gunnah karnay ka IJAZAT NAMA nahi hai.

FORCE, obviously yahaan un logoon ka kusoor hai jo unhain aisa karnay par majboor kartay hain, but what do you think is it the whole Pakistani nation?

AND the 3rd one, yahaan society ziada involved hai. Kam az kam aisi aurton ko tu society ko zaroor kubool kar lena chahiye jo abhi tak us environment main bhi iss gunna say door hain, magar masla yeh aa jata hai beech main kay kisi ko kia maloom kay kon masoom hai aur kon nahi. Doorsa wo log jo iss gunnah main involved hain tu unkay liye tu Allah ka hukam hai Quran main kay “pakdaman aurtain pakdaman mardoon kay liye aur napak aurtain napak mardoon kay liye”. Jo aurtain yeh burai chor kar touba kar kay izzat ki zindagi jeena chahti hain, unkay liye Islam main buhat jaga hai, unhain mushkilat se nahi darna chahiye there are always certain ways to avoid these difficulties.

Alim

An Islamic religious scholar.

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Alhamdulillah, I am fine. App kaisay hain?

Nasara

The name given to the followers of the Christian faith both in the Qur'an and Hadith

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Athar (or Asaar)

Sayings of the Sahabah, the companions of the Prophet (S.A.W.). A source of Guidance for all Muslims.

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ZEESHANAHMED said:

And as far as “arrogance” is concerned, it is making undue claims of and taking pride in rank, dignity, estimation, knowledge, or power. It is condemned, not because they do not have power or knowledge (they may have it), because pride is for Allah only, Allah has blessed them with these qualities, He may bless anyone, if we have some good qualities blessed by Allah then it was never our right, it is Allah’s favor on us.

Hijrah

Hijrah signifies migration from a land where a Muslim is unable to live according to the precepts of his faith to a land where it is possible to do so. The hijrah par excellence for Muslims is the hijrah of the Prophet (S.A.W.) which not only provided him and his followers refuge from persecution, but also an opportunity to build a society and state according to the ideals of Islam.

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