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nikama you surprise me all the time.

your comments on Hijab are very accurate. Thanks for taking time out for writing this rather long response. I find it very difficult to find time to respond... though I itch so bad to respond to topics where religion is misunderstood.

I want to add two other conditions as I have known as part of hijab:
1. Colors of outer garments should not be very attractive and eye catching - Women are prohibited from showing their beauty and beautifying themselves when outing from their homes. They are though at liberty to beautify themselves for their spouses and at home. Similarly, men are required to dress modestly. The purpose and intention of clothing should be to cover onself in obedience to Allah's command as opposed to impressing others or attracting others attention.

2. Clothes of males should not resemble clothes of female and the other way around...for clear distinction between men and women.

You are absolutely right that hijab is definitely a symbol of haya as ordained in Quran and as seen in the teachings of beloved prophet SAW. Hijab is not haya by it self. It is the individual conduct and how we carry ourself reflects our level of haya. Some may only adopt that symbol for a variety of reasons but haya may not have touched their heart. On the other hand, there may be some who do not observe the complete hijab, but they have haya in their hearts. This haya may not have matured to the point that they submit to the demands of their creator.
Posted 01 Nov 2006

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Posted 31 Oct 2006

Topic: My W33k3ND W/ HIm

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Too much information
Posted 31 Oct 2006

Topic: My W33k3ND W/ HIm

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Posted 31 Oct 2006

Topic: SOmetiMes We JUSt Want TO BE Heard

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what's FOB Full of ...
Posted 31 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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Teen Tracker said:

Smooth_daddy said:

Thanks, that is good and informative. But my questions remain unanswered.

Why shd I celebrate it?
What if I don't celebrate it?
Is there reward for it?
Is it part of worship or is it a ritual?




SD I will try to answer your questions as I hope you will get my point

1) This is gift of Allah for those who keep fast in holy mnth of Ramadan.Before Islam Quraish observe two days of joy in which drinking and dance were held. So Nabi-e-Karim (S.A.W) told the muslims abut two better days Eid-ul-Azha and Eid -ul- Fitar.So for being a muslims we must celebrate this as a gift of ALlah and HIS Rasul.

2)It is on the will of muslim to celebrate it or not but Sunah says it mustbe celebrated .As prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) practised by wearing new clothes, aplying ittar on holy body.

3) Eid is the reward after Ramazan. Celebrating eid is not a rewarding activity but if we celebrate eid as our Prophet (S.A.W) told then it will give us the Reward.

4) The start of day is worship and for being a muslim everyt single activity we do is for Allah and it is worship


Well said TT
Pls see my response in two posts above. If they are clearifying my view point and reason why i asked rhetorical questions.
Posted 30 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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LiL_DollY said:

hmm I know in my fmaily

if someone passes away

my fmaily keeps the eid clothing simple

no one really dresses up



Yes, families and tribes have their on traditions. Some of them are good just as some of them are not good either.

I am glad you brought this up. I have been trying to make this point. Eid is a fard (offering eid prayers in some sects is sunnah, yet others consider it wajid) - celebrating Eid is required, i.e. one must be happy for two reasons.
1. because it is for His obedience and we are happy in what pleases Him.
2. it is given by Allah as he sends his angels and special blessings on this day because we have attained the taqwa and possibly freedom from the hell fire.

Losing someone in the family is very sadening, but joyful is the blessing of Allah to the believers who seek His plesure at all times. Thus, not celebrating eid could tantamount to rejecting what Allah orders. Naturally, it would be hard for a person to wear new clothes and being playful when someone in the family died only a couple of days ago.

However, when people show their sadness on the day of eid when during that year someone in the family passed away. Though in their normal life you don't see that unhappiness but they specifically mark eid to lodge their protest. This is not prmissble.
Posted 30 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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Ashii said:

hmmmmmmm....
its sunnah i guess.. and we celebrate nuzool e Quran pak and the end of Ramadan

well,, i dont know wot u call "celebrating"
its a day of happiness ofcourse but i dont think if we really need to have 2/3 new clothes, parties
and all other stuff



Eid is not mere sunnah. It is required. Allah TWT says in the Quran to say takbeetat after completing the count of fasting in the month of Ramadhan for the guidance given to you so that you may become thankful. Eid is difinitely a gift but also a day of special worship. No other day can be the same as Eid.

The prophet SAW told us about the significance of this day as when angles descend from heavens. They station at each crossroads, welcome and send blessings of Allah upon all those who come out of their homes to offer Eid prayers. On this day, the Zakat ul Fitr must reach the needy and a believer should feel happy.

Prophet wore his best clothes and cologne and remained happy on the day of Eid. He offered and received greetings which are only meant ofr eid.

Wearing nice and best closthes on the day of Eid is well within the spirit of Eid. Extravagance is never permitted but showing generosity, hostings and offerings toward family, relatives, friends, and needy are appreciated and are very suitable to the event but without an element of show-off and arrogance.
Posted 30 Oct 2006

Topic: Another day...another night...

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LiL_DollY said:

have ur 2 pennies bro



only when you are in the right mind
Posted 27 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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I agree wid that sam and nb
So what are the implications of that?

could another day be called eid or celebrated like eid?

Is it sin to not celebrate eid because of some unhappy event that may have occured on that day or a few days before that?

Posted 27 Oct 2006

Topic: I’m really angry....

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LiL_DollY said:

Why cant we just live our own lives

instead of always being concerned about the 2nd and third person.

When your car falls over a bridge
into the water

yah save yourself before your passenger.

So why in life

is it always others before you.

I DESERVE EVERY RIgHT 2 B SELFISH!



That's the sign of frustration.
Selfishness takes you only that far and then you hit deadend in relationships. Cut and run is the easiest but may not be the wiser of options that are there.
Posted 27 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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your not confused, you are doing fine.
Posted 26 Oct 2006

Topic: Another day...another night...

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ok, I didn't mean to say you started it. I rather meant you were involved in it. I have alot to say but I think, I'll only listen to you until you want me to give my two pennies.

Posted 26 Oct 2006

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ok, here are my congrats on 28, 29 and 30 thou posts
Posted 26 Oct 2006

Topic: Congratzzzz NB on ur 7000 posts

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keep it up. sky is the limit
Posted 26 Oct 2006

Topic: ~EiD MuBaRaK~

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Eid mubarak to you too Wafa

Congrats on your wed. I pray for your happy marriage and life thereafter
Posted 26 Oct 2006

Topic: Eid Mubarak

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better late than never

eid mubarak from me to all friends
Posted 26 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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ok, it seems like I need to simplify my questions.

Celebration of eid, is it fard?

Now, if it is fard, then not celebrating it would be a sin. Also, it is required to be celebrated on a specific day or it is not eid.

Does it give enough background to discuss it? lets see how we look at eid from this perspective
Posted 26 Oct 2006

Topic: Another day...another night...

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actually, I was wondering about dolly having a fight with her hubby on eid   
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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Quran was revealed in Ramadhan.
SRK answered some of the questions indirectly but I am looking for to the point answers.
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: Eid ul fitar Vs Eid ul uzha

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It came and left - had a lot of fun
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: what you think about islam

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you are welcome dear.

I didn't post to convince you but to give viewers another way of thinking.

enjoy eid
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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yes sis, all that is true.
but my focus is on why that day. We can do those things on any other day of our choice. What makes eid as eid and no other day is that special?
Posted 25 Oct 2006

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Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: Another day...another night...

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On Eid
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: AUR JAN’AY KI KHUAHISH

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nb, I am not a scholar and I wouldn't like to step in unchartered territories. I can give examples on some of the issues but please identify those issues for me first. It will be a long discussion if we address each one of them.
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: what you think about islam

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mmja said:

aik bat pochne hai apsay jab HAZRAT UMAR say poch geyia kay apkay bad kinko hakomat de jaye to unho nay jin 5 logon kay naam liay thay woh saray mahajer thay kyia HAZRAT ke tablikh ke wajah say koi insaar is qabil nahin tha kay woh hakomat karsakay jabkay unho nay islam kay naam pay jo keyia woh hum sab jantay hain yeh aik farik tha apno main or dosro main ap mere bat manay ya na lakin har insaan ke apne soch hote hai
sir ab iska ans bhe day dayn



My friend, right after the death of the prophet saw, Ansar gathered together in the house of Abu-Obaidah to crown him as the khalifatur rasool. Abu-bakr RA, reported to them the hadith of the prophet that Khilfa shall remain among the Muhajiroon after him. Upon hearing that, none challenged it nor there was ever a strive among the ansar to take that position. They remained above that controversey and strengthened the hands of the Khilafah. BTW, all the names suggested for Omar succesor were proposed by the team of advisors composed of both, ansar and muhajiroon.
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: what you think about islam

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mmja said:

In the times of other caliphates, wars continued in persian and roman lands. At this point, I will ask you a question, do you think, any army of volunteer soldiers, ill equipped, ill trained, and much smaller in number than super powers of that time would dare to militarily challenge them?
sir aj main srif iska jawab donga
yahan tak to theek tha lakin wahan jakay yeh kaha kay hadyia do ya musilman ho jayio jiske wajah say kuch lalche or gharib loog uper say musilman hogay hadeyiay ke wajah say lakin woh dil say musilman nahin huway thay jiske wajah say unke ayenda nasilayn islam say door hate gaye jo aj kal hamayn saf nazar ata hai



Collection if Jizya was ordered in Quran. This was a tax non-muslims paid to live under the security and justice system of Islam. My friend, many muslims live in the lands of non-muslims and pay taxes for benefits that they will never receive. Do they change their belief systems just to avoid taxes? FYI: Omar RA was known for aborting jizya on poor and old people. Because Islam was not sent to oppress needy, regardless of their faith.

Muslims ruled in india for 1000 years, majority of India was still non-muslim - where was sword that turned some to islam but could not hurt enough to force everyone to Islam? There are only theories or some isolated unfortunate events. At large, muslims did not use force to convert any people to Islam.
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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SRK, that's not your response, but any way, it still is driving the point home.

NB: in a way you are right .
Posted 25 Oct 2006

Topic: What is EID?

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Posted 25 Oct 2006
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