and when you break your fast you'll do even better.

I luv fetucinnnii with garlic and shrimp sauce. yum
Save some for me too.

we got almost 2 hrs to go.
im breaking my fast in the Masjid.

I always invited friends over to eat something sweet before going for eid prayers. Prophet used to eat sweets before eidul-fitr prayers. But then I lived among many muslim families around.

Sheer-Qorma, of course is a delicacy of eid. We get donuts, haleem, fruits, samoosay, beans, nimko, drinks and whateva other folks bring in.

Now we do a open house after Eid prayers. People come and go all day long.

dolly sis, I commented on maryam's response to mmja's post. yahr doing fine. Maryam's ma friend.

mmja, I didn't mean to call you a hypocrate. I just commented on your comment [ think respect dil main hoti hai or hum jesay bhi hain uski respect zaror kartay hain bachay hain isliay ghaltyia bhi kartay hain lakin woh badra ghaforo rahim hai um sab ko sedhi ra dikhaye(ameen)khas kar mughay]
I apologize for any hurt.

May Allah guide us all

something just ticked me, I guess

Liked this one.

Fairl_Girl said:

others are good but not my type. Thanks for sharing

beads and artificial stones

yo sis

yeah, I know, that's what i meant by your carriage offer.

so what wld yah like to order

mmja said:

kuch loog under say kuch or bahir say kuch hotay hain jo woh zahir kartay hain woh hotay nahin hain kabhi na kabhi yeh mano gay ap loog

its not rocket science Jawad, we know it fine. wht aryah trin ta say

sorry, there's no place to set your tashreef on any thing you can keep it right where it is and don't put it down, it might get kicked around

If you insist Badshah's carriage's available.

hey, how bout a drive-in   

Maryam
bravo girl! I didn't expect you say something this strong. Hey, I agree wid yah.

respect in the heart must reflect in letter and spirit. its otherwise hypocracy

PM wld be a better option for it instead to posting on it on the forum.

got it

"yar jis banday ki language sab say kharab ho woh paka madarsay main padrta hoga,unko muft ki roti todrnay kay alawah koi kam nahin,falahn masjid main namaz na padro,yahan khudkash hamla karo janat main jayio gay or kuh"


I have seen very well educated people with foul mouth. I can assure you they have not even seen the pic of a madrassah.

If madrassah can't correct the mouth of a person, then madrassah is a problem.

You wld be surprised to know there are extremist christian groups who motivate followers to fight against those who reject Jesus as their deity. There are Hindu extremists and Jewish extremists who do that but its only Muslims who are shown on TV alll over the world.

Point here is, your observations are valid but they are not universal.

NB, essay didn't mention mirzayat or qadiyaniat even once. Though I liked the essay very much because it is based on Quran, I think you could have title the topic differently. Subject matter is above one or two sects claimants of alternative prophecy.

Over all good essay.

this thread is to seek reasons more than judgments. So tell us why you made the statement you did?

cool
metal or synthetic

can yah handle terrible 2s

wanna eat in a fine italian restaurant.

TT can't spell it

I think you already feel betta

Thanks everybody
Badal, aikalone - right on target

I'll only add to your observations.

Term jahil in paki society is used more in a rhetoric fashion than in a literary manner - meaning people have no or little knowledge or understanding of modern lifestyle. It may be true for some just like those who didn't have higher education to polish or nurture their skills. Yet there are some who did get higher education but then locked their minds for any advancement. This actually is true in many secularly educated people.

Just like badal said, there are some who may have acquired skills, like memorizing Quran or leading prayers etc. but didn't actually grasp the knowledge like any other skilled laborer, like car mechanic, barbers, butchers, plumber... who don't have engineering level knowledge to be creative.

Irony is, we, as a society, demand such low skilled mullah to fill voids in our daily life. Because religion is the last thing on our days agenda and so is anything related to it. Then, all of a sudden we need services of a Mulla to perform a ritual (azan in baby's ears, quran khani ...), So who needs a scholar to do just that. Low skilled mullahs come in handy to perform the task. Just like who needs an engineer to fix a broken tap.

So Islamic services are just like any other services industry. But then, we value those services so low that people in this industry make little money. So who wants a profession where there's little money and low status? poors and outcasts of the society take up such professions.

Believe you me, we want jahil mullahs. In a Iftar party, just the other day, someone mentioned of a need for masjid. Though we have several masajid in our locale, but need was felt because the "Imam" of the masjid doesn't fit the persona of a traditional Imam. Because he wears suits, he is not poor and not going from door to door to provide quran teaching services to their kids - in short, how come he has high self-esteem. It is unacceptable to some that Imam speaks fluent English - he should be Urdu or Punjabi speaking...and should live off of whateva food and provisions handed down to them.

In summary, we reject mullahs who want to be modern and versed in secular as well as religious knowledge. We expect them to practice religion in traditional ways as our symbols but not as our role-models. And when they try to do that, we don't own them.

why they call ya moto then

SALL said:

wots so funnnyyy


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