Smooth_daddy
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OK, SRK, check both of your quotations and you'll see they are very different from each other. This is just my guess, you may have seen the reference to the hadeeth (a translation in Urdu etc) and you are attempting to translate in English. Traditions of the Prophet SAW encouraged the idea of seeking consent or dissent of daughters in decisions of their marriages. A marriage is not solemn without the consent of girls gaurdian (father when present), but it still is solemn without the consent of girl. In Paki society, people choose the later option and made it practice while ignoring Prophet's advice. Later generations revolted to the practice and made another extreme choice - rejecting the required part of marriage - consent of gaurdians. what matters now is girls choice of spouse to which parents must yield and oblige because otherwise, she will marry the guy of her choice anyways.
Bottom line: seeking daughters' consent in marriage is not required but highly recommended by the prophet. He did not command that practice. This is my humble understanding, Allah knows it best.
Smooth_daddy
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One thing I wanted to say about this article. Author portrays those desis who are being looted at the hands low grade entertainers as innocent. I don't think they are that innocent. Nobody comes to their house robs'em of their hard earned money. They out of theri own desire to entertain themselves with cheap dances and enjoy lusty moves of indignified girls.
I have been observing it for a long time, whenever there is show of movie stars or singers (in the west), pakis run to it like a thirsty bedouin runs to water in a desert. They travel long distances, purchase expansive tickets, arrange for stay in hotels, take off from work - if they have to - and return happy and satisfied. Call for volunteers to help victims of disaster - to accomodate a family in their homes, to volunteer time and effort tor rehabilitate displaced people, none but few respond.
The point is, overseas pakis, in general, careless for virtous cause but they are very upbeat and enthusiastic about any cheap entertainment.
Smooth_daddy
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Values in Pak have changed in a decade more than anyone could imagine. Westernization in thought (I mean -ve impact of it only) and approach to life style have made our original and root values obsolete. You can see its reflection on general apperance. Element of haya have given way to obscenity. Things of shame have become things of pride and honor. Sinful acts have become so common, they are now a norm and accepted behavior.
While saying all this, I do not mean there hasn't been any improvement in any quarters of country or that all is evil. This is to sum up a general trend in paki society.
