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penelope91 said:
shahenshah, according to the Qu'ran, u can marry a christian girl coz we believe in the same God. But one of the conditions is that your children must be muslims, coz Islam is the last revealed religion.
P91, I don't really think it is a condition for children to be Muslims. Allah swt said, "every soul bears its own burden". Children may or may not accept Islam as their religion. Allah will ask us only about weather we taught our children about Islam or not and did our best to keep them muslims. Once they grow up and choose their religion differently, then its their responsibility and their burden to carry. Of ourse we would very much love for our children to true Muslims like the concern of prophet Yaqoob AS. Prophet Yaqoob asked his sons before death, "who would you worship after me" they replied, "we will worship the God of you, the God of your fathers, Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq."
On the other hand, son of prophet Nuh AS was not a believer and so was drowned with the disbelievers of his time. When prophet Nuh implored Allah to save his son, Allah swt refrained Nuh AS from asking for it as his son was among the unjust. Allah swt gives that as an example of two individuals even though related by blood but are oposite in belief and that Allah is just to treat them by their belief and not for each others acts.
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For a Muslim, bars, pubs, disco are not places of fun. Of course, it depends on the health of Iman in a persons heart which accepts or rejects concepts of fun where prohibited acts of shame and transgress are committed. For a heart that enjoys the company of sin and acts of shame doesn't have as much iman as the one that despises it.
Shahenshah said:
shahrukh khan said:
BEING AS A MUSLIM?? WHAT DO YOU SAY SD?
being a muslim to idher internet pe bhi nahi ana chahye
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I see it more of a clash of cultures.
divorce rates are rising at an alarming rate in pak and among couples of paki origin. Family break-ups due to incompatible spousal match-up and intolerance to minor issues taking tolls off young couples. Rebellious and self-centered attitudes of girls and overly controlling attitude of boys are at clash. Onez seeking complete independence while otherz pressing for domination. Well, this trend will have to find a happy medium sooner than later. Continutation of this clash will give rise to many social ills. Because younger generations will opt for alternatives which might be even more painful.
There exists a very balanced approach to this problem. Unfortunately, both parties tend to stay away from trying to find alternatives to it when there isn't one. Soul searching and reestablishing connection with the roots may reinvigorate tht dying balance.
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I respect your opinion and don't mean to challenge it. I was just saying that I haven't bought into that idea yet. On another thought, I don't like to fit into something that's there - and that's me
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nonsense is offensive as I said earlier liberal use of this word falls below standards of haya - I feel uncomfortable using such adjectives. I call it offensive.
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I never disagreed with indepth study and understanding of Quran. It should, however, not be misconstured with attempts to twist verses of Quran to support one's own ideologies. In Quran, verses with muhkamat do not need interpretations after what Allah's messenger already explained and are set in stones. Verses with mutashabihat, can not be fully understood or explained with limited human knowlege.
Marrying a christian girl with conditions mentioned above is permissible but not recommended. Someone with no hostility toward islam and muslims is far less likely to go against Islam and Muslims and particularly her own family (husband, children, ...)
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yum yum, I like that stuff too! I don't have a feeling for thanksgiving as a holiday or tradition. My idea of thanks giving is to offer thanks several times daily.
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Shahenshah said:
Smooth_daddy said:
I don't always believe in "majority rules". Majority may agree to make indescency acceptable but if its against standard morals, I will oppose.
In a nut shell, I do find it offensive in general.
Use of that word is not necessary to express ones feelings. Secondly, allowing use of the word will leave an opening for users who are not selective in their language and expression to stretch it farther than moral limits. i will strongly urge to leave it the way it is.
if we leave it the way it is..then why is mod asking me not to use it
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maryam. said:
we always celebrate thanksgiving it's become a sort of tradition in our house wasn't with my family this year, but did celebrate it with a close friend of mine in new york
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Good question.
Issue of marriage with women of people of the book is permitted and so is friendly dealings with the people of the book. Islam (Quran) does not restrict Muslims, it actually encourages gentle and kind treatment towards the people of the book.
Verse you are referring from Quran are specific about taking people of the book as "Aulia" - protectors and fast / true friends. This verse and other similar verses are words of caution and admonition for Muslims as a society. Allah also gave the reason - they are protectors and fast friends of each others, i.e don't count on them; they will be friends to you so long as you are not at odds with one, of their own background. Such verses refer to situation of conflict and war in particular. Seeking help and support of non-muslims against Muslims is strictly prohibited.
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Really, sincerely implore Allah to guide our brethren. They are at the outmost limit of jahiliyah. Persistence on jahiliyah and rejection of truth brings nothing but punishment. People heedless of signs of Allah (recent earthquake for example) are caught in the midst of their acts of ignorance by Allah. Allah SWT says in the Quran, Allah's punishment encirlcles them while they are comfortable in their rebelion against Allah. Allah's punishment is severe and swift. No one can then escape it without His permission.
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I know but its not impossible. Allah's messenger gauranteed protection from fire for those who gaurd their tongue and their chastity from any shortcoming.
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nikama said:
baat kuch pale nahin pari
when marrying a Muslim, conditions of adulthood, mehar, consent of both parties and that of the wali of the bride must be fulfilled before a marriage contract can be actualized.
Marrying a non-muslim woman requires conditions fulfilled before marriage could be actualized. These conditions include that the woman should be a believer in a religion for which Allah sent down a book. She must be from Mohsinat. Mohsinat are defined as those who are God concious, chaste, do not have hatred toward Islam and Muslims and maintain a high standard of morality and haya.
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