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Just a quest! I didn't quite understand when people question, "you say sorry after the trouble!" has anybody heard of someone being sorry before the mistake?
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I agree, no one should drive any satisfaction from sufferings of others but as humans, we can't forget the loss of our own and embrace of that who inflicted blows upon us. Now, ask a Muslim heart which stopped bleeding for genocide of its Muslim brethren at the hands of Americans, and feel for the hurricane victims and to come to their aid, how tremendous sacrifice and extra large character it required.
People living in the west can feel for Americans becuz they saw it all on TV. News networks jammed air time with unbroken coverages for days drawing attention of the entire globe. How could a western Muslim heart be not moved after seeing sufferings of people.
How many westerners or even Muslims saw such extensive coverages of Muslim sufferings after carpet bombing and diasy-cutters hitting civilian populace? Networks were busy showing how humane American killing machine was - how they dropped aid to women, children and old - busy painting a guised picture of wolves as sheep.
Yet Muslims with one part of their heart aching for their Muslim brethren, suffering at the hands of Americans, stand with American victims of hurricane with the other half. A character much larger and greater than human scale.
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Chandramukhi, I only related the reality. I know and understand Islam does not promote killing of innocent people. I personally do feel for the people in N.O. The ground reality is different, people have mentioned of how American people feel of devestation, suffering and chaos.
Many people hold American people equally responsible for the acts of their government. As majority of people supported war and attacks on other soverign countries and approved of killing innocent civilian who were not responsible for the acts of terrorists. Still, I believe, in the time of suffering, Muslims should support aid the victims.
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...they only come thru small opening. Free pass to them will work wonders in Pak. Don't you see what they did to Western Europe after they opened their doors to Jewish refugees after WW 1 & 2?
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Neutralizing more and more muslim countries diplomatically would make it affordable and managable to tackle defying states later by isolating them from the support of other Muslim countries.
Let alone huge economic boosts with a market of nearly billion consumers opening to isreal without third party agreements.
What's pakistan's gain from it except that America will raise its status to a lap-dog instead of one sitting on the ground. That is a bit better treat for the trick pakistan will perform at the command of its master.
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Isreal pays heavy price in security and yet can't have peace of mind. Who wants to stay up all night with guns ready to gaurd home? So enormous economic benefit in savings in security. First of the reactions from isreali ambassador to US were that we are in no danger of Pakistani nuclear weapons. And to put to action what president musharraf have spoken, there should be some kind of diplomatic presence of Pakistan in Tel Aviv. Why they are so hasty in plucking this low hanging fruit?
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By pakistan recognizing israel, an automatic signal sent to other countries that a powerful country has been neutralized and others should follow suit and its in their own favor. The question is Why?
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This should be discussed in serious forum.
anywaz If theres no effect of it on Israel, why Israel is seking recognition from Muslim countries? Pakistan is the only nuclear capable power among them. There are multitudes of benefits for Israel.
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Badal, you were not correct in saying there is no concept of natural-disaster. It may be translated verbitim but allah swt has mention of "Musibah" or "Bal'a" in Quran, for example, meaning, clamity / catostrophy which may or may not be disastrous. Allah swt included, fear, pain, loss of property and even soul under it.
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Badshah, I don't blame yah. Many people have been saying similar things. People around the globe are weak and poor and America is taking advantage of their situation to yield and extend political, economic and military milage outa'em. When a calamity strikes America, people sympathize with American public but they feel somewhat satisfaction in it too. A relief to see America suffer a blow and taste the bitterness of chaos and pain of disturbed lives and its amenities likes of which America spread to others by wars and sanctions.
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Chandarmukhi, Badal ddn't go over board. he infact spoke the truth. Environmental factors you are referring to (tentative phenomenon humans reached with God-given intelligence) are systems of God’s creation and are executed upon His orders. Allah swt mentioned in the Quran of wind, and ocean waves, and birds and insects... being his soldiers who obey and carry out His command. They call 'em natural disaster because they do not have any body to blame for such incidents.
In western societies where atheism took strong roots in late previous century, left its indelible marks on the society. Calling act of God an act of nature is one example. They refer to God as Mother nature but hate to call it the will of Allah, the Almighty who commands total control on what happen on the heavens and the earth.
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worst than that Sall, he said, president bush din't mention of his uniform.... so if only when a US presidents mentions it becomes important and millions he rules don't count He proved to himself and the rest of the world where his orders come from.
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I'm lost I hate to loose anybody but Be real guys and gals. This a forum for people to come out and chat others for own reasons. Its not a family. Though, some get carried away with the notion of family and relations, in reality we don't know each other, not even real names and genders except few. So take it easy and enjoy so long as you stay here and good luck if you intend to leave. If you made some friends here, don't forget to take their contact info with you. best of luck and my best regards!!!
He proved to himself and the rest of the world where his orders come from.
