Shahenshah said:

anyways...ye to sab ke apni apni soch hae how they intreprate quran..i can be wrong, u can be wrong, we both can be wrong...

there you go Bazi! you just hit the bulls eye!

Your or my or anyone's opinion is subject to rejection without any accountability. Word of allah and His messenger are however absolute and indelible. That's why Quranic explanations are not mere perosnal intreptations (at least the true ones).

Thus basic rule of tafseer (interpretation) of Quran is the interpretation of Prophet SAW of the Quran. All true Tafsir are based on that. Also People whom he SAW authorized to explain Quran did so and their explations have been recorded as such. Tafasir void of such references are rendered as unauthentic and unreliable. It is a complete authentication and approval process - "Scientific".

Speaking of science, tafseer of Quran, hadith and its collection is a science of its own. It is a process that is methodological and consistent by all scientific requirements and far more superior than any biblical collections ever.

For some odd reason, Mulsims attribute any or all Islamic works to non-sophisticated, non-scientific work of bunch of ignorant people who knew nothing better

I don't think yurs are bad at all. You are one of very few members who contribute to this forum.

Genrealization is fine to a certain point. When you try to prove or disprove something (theory or otherwise) one should come up with evidence, proof, references specific to the point. In a discussion like this one, mere emotions or generalized opinion carry very little weight and substance.

Your posts are valuable and brief. I will encourage you to continue posting    while enriching your knowledge and enhencing your articulation.

That's why the Prophet SAW said: "A believer is not a true believer until Allah and his messenger are more beloved to them than anything else (including self)...")

Sall

I thought you will jump right on it!

explanation: When a country is divided on smaller issue and that is harder to address because everybody has their own issues, large issues of common interests grab everybody's attention. War on a country unites people despite of their internal (minor) differences. Why do you think Putin, Bush and Blair were relected? I guess you got enough lead there

SALL said:

herat hai

me ne pooori zindagi mei aaj tak aik shaks nahi dekha jo kissi baat se na darta ho
and here at JB sab k sab hi sher k bache hein

Lions of internet! (kambal kay sher - internet kay sher)
maidan kay ...

Startle!

SALL said:

LiL_DollY said:

r u serious>

wot do u think



dollyyyyy yarr,,,
wots wrong in it,, u ll look more ishtyylloo and ur relatives will get mooore jealous

don't listen to her dolly   
there are betta advices up there

you love your child and you fulfill their needs outa extreme love. You and i don't wake up in the middle of the night for anybody, but if it is my baby crying, I will stay up whole night to ensure his/her comfort.

makes sense
rings a bell

My vote would be non of the above.

When I see a Muslimah covered in hijab, I think of her to have overcome a strong human desire of showing-off and embraced a ruling from her God.

This however doesn't mean that she is into practice of true Islam.

On the other hand, when I see a Muslimah NOT covered in hijab, I think of her to have been overcome by a strong human desire of showing-off and having IGNORED a ruling from her God. This however doesn't mean that she is out of the fold of Islam or doesn't practice other injunctions of Allah and His messenger.

The point is, we can't judge people by their apperance and much less their intention behind their apperarance. In both scenerios, individuals may not have accepted complete Islam in their lives but live only part of it. Allah SWT demands from us complete submission to His will and order.

Shahenshah said:

Smooth_daddy said:

You bet! but there are pre-qualifications given in the Quran. read it caefully.

by reading Quran carefully, i came to conclusion k God is rab al-a'lameen as he mentiones himself in Quran and NOT rab al-muslameen

so wo sab ka rab hae...jis ko chahay maaf ker de..jis ko chahay pakar le

Then understand what it means to be "The Rab" - The Sustainer, The Cherisher...

In the Quran He says He is The Haakim (legislates, rules and decides) and The Aadil (Just) who rules with justice. He legislated in the Quran (in Surah Al-Imran) that no other religion will be acceptable to Him accept Islam.

Jews and Christians used to say, again from the Quran: "and no-one would enter Paradise except for if they are Jews or Christians, These are their own desires". Allah asked them of the evidence to prove it. "Say to them, bring forth your evidence in support of your claims. Yes! But whoever submits (Allah SWT used the word (A(I)slam-a)his face (himself) to Allah and he is a Muhsin (performer of Ihsan; Prophet SAW explained "Ihsan" as worshipping Allah as if you see Him, though you can't see Him but are sure that He is watching you, meaning, Whoever performs deeds in sincerity, for Allah alone without partners.)

Allah swt gave us the burhan (evidence after evidence) of what He will pardon and what He will not. He says in the Quran that He is true to his promise and will not deviate from it - In nAl laha la ukhliful miaad.

Sall Even those who believe but their actions are like disbelievers, they will suffer the wrath of Allah on the day of Judgment. Eventually they will get the respite and will be entered in the paradise just because they had believed. But those who disbelieved and called a human the son of Allah and rejected the path of salvation and denied the book of Allah and despised the Prophet of Allah will not enter paradise. In suratul Baiyinah, Allah SWT says: "Verily, those who disbelieve from among the People of the Scripture and idolators, will abide in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures" In other places Allah SWT says: "They will be entered into the hell fire where they will remain forever."

To get united we'll have to compromise a lot of things and rid ourselves of differences.

Shahenshah said:

offcouse..always smilin

and when ya sleep...

King of jb said:

app kash kay room may kiya ker rahay hay srk

It was balich in fact.

doesn't matter, people fear different things and express them differently.

PURPLINA said:

Smooth_daddy said:

Perception of Islam and Muslims in the west has gone from bad to worse since hollywood started to film on Muslims. Do you think every American has made up their mind about Islam and Muslims after reading Quran and visiting an Islamic center and learning about Islam?

Majority of Americans know about Islam and Muslims is based on what films, tv and news networks have educated them with.

anyone thinks not having effected by media, they must research their souls. see if there is any influence in the way they speak, write, dress, eat, drink, socialize, etc...influenced from movies and such.

oh mi god finally there is a sensible soul!!!! i agree wif u.....

Thanks for recognizing the truth

What makes 'em peer and let alone asking them anything why are they worthy of fellowship?

so what if they were 9 yarder!

why should that be a place of sanctity? It was neither upto tham to grow 9 yarders nor was it upto them to live and die at their will, so what's so special about them?

Alas! All Muslims responded to the call of Allah. I wonder how ww would stand in front of Almighty and justify that hearing the Aadhan and did not respond to it. When we were reminded to remember Allah we refused and preferred fulfillment of our own desires.

Allah swt, Himself have decreed His pleasure for His servants in worshipping Him in His prescribed way, and his anger for His servants in its negligence. No other way of worship, praise and thanks can replace the obligation of prayers.

I think these are expressions of fear.

You bet! but there are pre-qualifications given in the Quran. read it caefully.

so do it when you feel like it Sall :)

And Oil's ours. Why don't we take care of our own stuff!

thanks wol

no sweat! thanks anyways

thanks for resonating my view point 1ofakind!

Shahenshah said:

shahrukh khan said:

jews and chrisitians in jannat...

i mentioned a hadees too before according to which one sect of jews, one sect of christians and one sect of muslims will be allowed in heaven

mind that no Jews or Christians after the advent of Islam will be entitled to paradise unless they accept Islam as their religion.

Rough translation of Quran: "And women have rights over husbands similar to the rights husbands have over them of what is reasonable." (Al-Baqarah).

"what is" not equal to "what should be".

In Islam they are equal but among muslims they are unequal.

It is permissible in matters of worship and service to Allah, only to make one a better servant of Allah.

good info dua, can you plesae pass on the source of it.

Perception of Islam and Muslims in the west has gone from bad to worse since hollywood started to film on Muslims. Do you think every American has made up their mind about Islam and Muslims after reading Quran and visiting an Islamic center and learning about Islam?

Majority of Americans know about Islam and Muslims is based on what films, tv and news networks have educated them with.

anyone thinks not having effected by media, they must research their souls. see if there is any influence in the way they speak, write, dress, eat, drink, socialize, etc...influenced from movies and such.