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Posted 31 May 2005

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SK, I don't understand that statement but I am responding to what I understood from Fradiya and her later posts.

Intention of doing haram don't count against you until you do it. If someone didn't get a chance to earn haram, he / she can't be held liable for wrong doing. Now, it is a different thing when someone tried to arrange haram means but did not succeed.
Hard earnened could be from haram mean also. One who works hard to sell P**Nographic material or making wine, his / her hard earned income is from haram sources.

Posted 25 May 2005

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I assume you mean desires / whims by hawas!

Desire's natural and so is its satisfaction pursuit. Key's not to succumb to it especially for personal gains. Becoming slave of desires is where one leaves halal means and halal objectives.

Desire to excel in Allah's path is worship and to work for it is also worship.
Posted 25 May 2005

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I think we have rolled several things into one which makes it little confusing.

Halal earnings, if spent to purchase haram and consuming it turns that earning into haram

Purchasing halal things with haram earnings makes use of that hal thing haram. example: People sell alcohol in their stores and shops. They purchase halal meat for consumption from those earnings. So whatever they consume is no less haram then consuming haram meat.
Posted 25 May 2005

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Then why don't we seek guidance, strength and peace from Quran? Then why do we want to indulge in immorality? Why pleasing people is dearer to us than pleasing the One Who provides sustenance when people provide nothing?
Posted 25 May 2005

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mouch lol


let's be serious, mod will delete the post
Posted 25 May 2005

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KB, do you intend to make sacrifices for setting up revival!
Posted 25 May 2005

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We, including you sall, digged much deeper into what yusfi suggested, and may be even more so then he may have imagined. Reason, I say this becuz yusufi only addressed the symptoms of a disease, while we looked into the root of it. Insensitivity is an effect and result of a cause i.e. twisted motivations, high expectations from unreliable sources (unnamed gods / materials), short-lived successes.

Nations downfall begins when they cut themselves off of their roots (basis / origin) of their existance and identity. Just like when you cut a tree off its roots, no matter how green and healthy it is, will rot and die after a short while. We were given and identity by our creator and if we loose it, we will be disgraced.
Posted 25 May 2005

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Posted 25 May 2005

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Wana get to the next level, you know!
Posted 23 May 2005

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got it
Posted 23 May 2005

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SALL said:



nahi naaa,,
Halal vs Haram topic



I meant "Djeeda Lotta "
Posted 23 May 2005

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Sall: Then insensitive person is not into religion by any definition, he/she only performs rituals and nothing else.

Bazigaar: there are many non-muslims (including atheists)who are very sensitive and caring! Yet there are those who care and are sensitive to others until their own interests are not staked.

A persons sensitivity roots in internal motivations. True and lasting motivations come from FIRM belief in an entity that is everlasting and whose reward is never ending.
Posted 20 May 2005

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That makes two of us.
Posted 20 May 2005

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Because we don't seek guidance from its source. Quran tells us 'On the day of accounting, people will blame satan for their wrong doing and satan will respond saying ' I only invited you but you did what you did with your own choice'"...
Posted 20 May 2005

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comon! is that a business?
Posted 20 May 2005

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SK's right, it doesn't add up! If you can please elaborate.
Posted 20 May 2005

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I would like to be a sugar cube which when dissolves in a fluid, sweetens it though looses itself.
Posted 18 May 2005

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If you know rightful owners or their heirs, return money to them, especially when your sure it was taken from them unlawfully. If you don't know them or can't find them, you have no choice but to keep it. Spending it in charity may and again may draw Allah's forgiveness to the earner of it.
Posted 18 May 2005

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good one
Posted 17 May 2005

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Bazigaar said:

reason is k this is politics...dat's all.. politics mae sab chalta hae



Only in dirty politics
Posted 17 May 2005

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Bazigaar said:

hakona said:

funny
you both are saying the same thing.......aik keh raha hai mazhab sei dori insan ko behis bana deti hai....ore dosra.....behis insaan mazhab sei door ho jata hai.....

she is right kaan ko eidhar sei pakroo ya udhar sei baat aik he hai



behis insaan zaroori nahi k mazhab se bhi door ho...magar mazhab se door ho ker insaan behis zaroor ho jata hae..so it's two different things


you mean to say a person firmly rooted in religion can still be insensitive and careless!
Posted 17 May 2005

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If we can't do anything, we can pray to God for their well being. but, we are busy watching indian movies at night and enjoying ourselves.
Posted 17 May 2005

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pain of other Muslims doesn't hurt us because parts of this body are severed from each other and hence become insensitive to each other.
Posted 17 May 2005

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so raise a generation who's God-concious and virtous. Hopefully, they will bring glory back to our Muslim nation, Insha-Allah. Do your part in raising children with this ideology and I will raise mine. Let us be good examples for them. Let's be the generation who sacrifised for laying the foundation of revival. We will be forgotten by the people soon after our demise but we'll be known well in the heavens and mentioned among the angels.

Are we ready for it?
Posted 16 May 2005

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We are at greatest fault. Our weekness allows their policy maker to create media glamour that captivates our thoughts and intelligence.
Posted 16 May 2005

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Islam permits profit taking but restricts exploitation. In Islam intentions and purpose of actions are prime factors in determining whether its lawful or not.
Manufacturing drugs for pharmaceutical purposes with intention to cure illnesses stands noble and virtous work. Action of manufacturing drugs to spoil human health and to rake money from it stands criminal and sinful. Though it involves same process and both are profitable trades, one is halal but the other is haram.kash_beauty38492.1314930556
Posted 16 May 2005

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SALL said:

Smooth_daddy said:

We can understand your under the influence of ...


how do u know


...that's only when say "but abhi humein kuch samajh nahi aae gi"

Posted 16 May 2005

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You inherit money from someone whom you think earned in an unlawful way! Money for you is halal and you can spend it the way you want it. However, the person who earned this money is answerable to Allah for how he/she earned it and how he/she spent it and how its inheritors spend as well. Ofcouse, taqwa is to spend from your earned money and from inheritence also as it expiates sins and brings one closer to Allah.

Now, if you know the rightful owners of that money and you return it to them, it has a great rewaard for you. If not, make sadaq fe-sabilillah from it and you can use it for your benefit too.

For God's sake, people do not issue fatwa's on matters you do not have any authority. This is a serious business where only word of Allah and His Messenger are the basis of any ruling. I request you again to refrain from ruling on matters of deen.
Posted 16 May 2005

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Bazi, your point's well taken.
So where'r the roots of these illnesses? We need to reach down there if we seriously mean business.

Why should people not consume alcohol, keep illicit realtionships and deceit, treachery, trason...? What's there to motivate people to refrain from these illnesses? Force, law, police and other oppressive measures can't curb the desire to do ill. It has to come from inside. When inside's clean, it will reflect on the outside as well. And that's only when there is an internal compuslion and motivation. That compulsion and motivation is called "Taqwa".
Posted 13 May 2005