If you are truly looking for an answer than do not seek advice of humans. A set of believes, regardless of right or wrong, drive human thought and advice. Seek advice of your creator and the one He appoint as a guide for your guidance.

SALL said:

Smooth_daddy said:

Sonia Gandhi claimed India conqured Pakistani culture with deep inroads into it.

sochne ki baat hai

Smooth_daddy said:

Implementation: most will not be able to do it.

and y notttttt...

Pak people find glamor so much in Indian culture that pakis have absorbed many aspects of that culture. Subtle absoprtions which seem insignificant but they alter the outlook of a society. Paki society is a case in perspective.

To resist media on-slaught and what it glamorises and kindles desires for, it takes a well rounded, morally sound and firmed in belief person. Do you think most people fall in that category? I say they don't, and thus they will succumb to temptations.

We can understand your under the influence of ...

sorry mod

SALL said:

im FOR a penal system

where not only prost but all these men visiting these places wd b punished too..

at the end, it seems to me more of a man-woman issue for you. You are confusing me. You talk about this issue from a woman's perspective or you intend a principle stand point?

SALL said:

Smooth_daddy said:

What's DL?

Smooth Dady --> SD
Djeeda Lotta -> DL

kash_beauty38485.5882523148

SALL said:

Smooth_daddy said:

What's DL?

Smooth Dady --> SD
Djeeda Lotta -> DL

D.Lotta great points.
Punishments in a penal system discourage and deter people who may have a desire to indulge in indecency and thus keep crimes to lower levels. Crime will never sieze to exist becuase shaitan will live thru the end of time and people will follow him. Idea about crime in any society is to contain it.

Crime prevention directly proportionate to level of faith and belief prevalent in a society. Level of Eman cannot be judged by number of prayers one offers or the length of the beard or turban, instead it is how much one refrains from sin with fear of displeasing the Most Merciful and doing good just to seek His pleasure.

If we want to reduce crime, let us work upon ourselves and those who are close and learn that we can get away from LEAs for crime no matter how big or small but can't escape the sight of Almighty, and He will take account of it.

Menace of prostitution its proponents, promoters, its support system and peripheral infrastructure will die down without police power and law enforcement. Instead, with internal strength of belief and fear of the Lord with reassurance of reward and eternal peace, men will remain committed to wives and women will cherish chastity and will be remain piously shy from Allah.Smooth_daddy38484.9013888889

wld anybody tell me what DL is? I'm ignorant!

that's just the start, wait till you marry and have spouse then kids (not in that particular order, especially in the west)

.....except Bazi

I enjoyed my kindergarten grade and loved it, can i stay there forever!

What about archiving old topics in one section for those who want to dwell in their first topic.

agree

2hot4-2cold, someone funks with your heart only when you allow it.

who's fd

Alcohol and sex are huqul-Ibad. Promotion of illicit sex, pronography ... are social ills, spread of which brings gross corruption and thus decay in social fabric. That's why Allah prescribed punishment for it in this life. There is no punishment for huqooqullah. Sharing partners with Allah is a major major sin but there isn't any punishment for it nor there is one for not praying or not fasting. This is where individuals are free to choose their religion, that matter will be decided in the hereafter. Societal ills and evils are condemned and punishment prescribed for perpetrators.

D. Lotta, you are right about justice. Justice and equality stems from high morals. Immorality encourages one to purge justice and to adopt unjust ways.

Usurping anybody's right is injustice. It is a gross injustice to checkout sisters and daoughters of others with eyes gazing all over them, it is their right that their dignity be protected from evil eyes and lustful gaze. It is injustice to demand and take bribes for the work we are already paid for with tax money. does it have anything to do with religion or minority? Daughters and girls of muslims and non-muslims and their dignity are equally respected in Islam. Money, property, honor and human rights of muslims and non-muslims are equally protected in islam. Those who don't care for the rights of their own brethren in religion would care for others!

One who's not motivated by the final accountability and reward is expected to go only lower on the standards of morality, including justice and equality.

Who said media's art? Its a commercial transaction! a poltical and governmental tool! rich man's keep.

Movies... show only what they want to show. its no art, its the artistic performance of artists purchased to create effects and to tinker emotions.

Sonia Gandhi claimed India conqured Pakistani culture with deep inroads into it.

Implementation: most will not be able to do it. Smooth_daddy38484.8720138889

What's DL?

KB and fredy, I wld ve moved both of yours posts out of this topic as they are irrelevant

Somebody tell me how we think West is not falling? Come on, West's morally bankrupt, they have only accepted that low level life style and called it modern living. We desire that lowly stature for ourselves and allow ourselves to be decieved by that.

Their fore-fathers made sacrifice and upheld their morals. European Renisance overturned their state of affairs of dark ages. They rediscovered basics of their original greek / roman teachings ("Christianity"), its morals - courage, sacrifice, learning and teaching, hard work, honesty, and UNITY...

We are doing just the opposite. We reaped the fruit of our fore-fathers' hard work and establishment as was founded by our beloved Prophet (SAW).

Before they rediscovered their glory, they followed the trail of our fore-fathers because they were successful. They realized their shortfalls in morality and humanity when they found the key of Muslims success and glory for almost 10 centuries.

Selfishness alone causes fall of nations. It stems and breeds and grows stronger in grounds of hearts where seeds of belief diminish. When trust, reliance, dependence... upon Allah shifts to self or friends, partners, allies... when ones effort only to serve personal gain, benefit, earning... and heartless to others needs, shortcoming, poverty... -- Motivation to do something shifts from reward from Allah to reward from self.

West's heading that way also, worst than that, we follow them blindly.

When vested interests of ruling elites stand ahead of general / public interests, nations fall to disgrace. rulers in a nation mirror masses of that nation.

Be cool, chill out every one!!
its daddy's call.

YUSFI's great, now I know where you got that sense of humor from Sall

He was admin before he left. Finally, he's back to the square one.

Congrats Samir!!

SohniKuddi said:

How are you supposed 2 deal with a 2 faced person?
confronting them of their actions may cause tension between the 2 of you and also arguments arise, but you cant ignore it knowing someone is talking ill of you, it makes you feel small in front of people (when people are gossiping about your internal affairs which you intended to keep to yourself)

All my life i have kept myself to myself, i feel that people have no business in my business, but you still feel quite paranoid (news leaks and sooner or later ppl know everything down to the dirt under your fingernails) and when your back is turned whispers start to float. It's always the usual suspect, u can spot a gossip from miles away

Boy! that's a good one

SK, I don't know anything about you, but my response will only help you if your understanding syncs with ...you will find out.

Know that, when someone backbites you, they are gifting you their good deeds for free and taking your bad ones in trade-off. So you be content to find it saved with Allah if you are patient and hopeful of meeting your Lord.

One time, a great scholar found out about a person who spoke ill behind his back. This knowledgeable person prepared a nice present for that person and took it to his house. Person asked the scholar of reason for the present, he presented his gratitude to him for scrubbing his sins with ill speech.

Secondly, those who talk bad behind you, they are not your friends becuz they thrive on your flesh. If you are close to them, try to correct them with politeness. Confrontation without insult or public outburst may bring about desireable changes. Insha-Allah

One who speaks ill of others to you, rest assured, 'll speak ills of you to others. So, discourage and resist gossip of others in your presence.

Gossip is a disease of heart and tounge is its tools.

Last but not least, pray alot and ask Allah to forgive and guide such persons who backbite, angels will make the same dua for you.

My friends, especially srk, it is very serious to attribute things to Allah without knowing the reality. Can you prove Allah's word that he makes life of good people short? Let us not attribute things to Allah without authority, otherwise it falls into category of forging false against Allah.
"And who is more unjust than he who forges a lie against Allah? These shall be brought before their Lord, and the witnesses shall say: These are they who lied against their Lord. Now surely the curse of Allah is on the unjust." (Hud: 18)

Its part of Muslim belief that Allah SWT exacted life of each creation, their rizq, time and place of death... 50,000 years before they were created.

Surely, departure of good people leaves many sad and their works are remembered for long; but good people are rembembered and mentioned in the court of Allah and among gatherings of angels while they are alive and they become pop stars of jannah after death. Whomever Allah mentions as his favorites, are indeed successful and honored. Honor and rememberence of the temporal world is equally temporal.

SALL said:

djeedja lotta said:

magar agar koi normal insan bina gunah kiye reh sakta hai to mujhe zaroor dikhayega. farishte gunah nahi kar sakte. nabi bhi gunah karte hain, magar unn ko Allah ne "masoom" qarar diya hai jaisay bachon ko.

burai guanh karne mei nahi hai
baat yeh hai k gunah karne k baad aap kya karte ho....

paighambar ko iss liye masoom kaha gaya k woh gunah kar k sharminda hote the,, poori zindagi apni galtiyon ki maafi mangne mei guzar dete the,,,
aur logon ki bhalai k liye apni zindagi wakf kar dete the
hmmmmmmmmmm....
hum paighambron ki barabri nahi kar sakte,, par unn k batae raste pe to chal sakte hein na

Prophets and messengers did not sin. Please do not say anything about anbia alaihimus salam on your own. Lets not exceed limits on such issues.

Sall, how did you conclude there lies no harm in sinning, there sure is: talking bad about someone, cursing at some one, stealing, deceiving, murder, rape... what's all this then? No matter what one feels after that, crime once committed is like a crack in the mirror you can't ever fix it.

SALL said:

khud pe i hu harr mushkil aur museebat ko KHUDA ki marzi samajh k uss mushkil ka koi hal na nikalna ghulam kaumon ki nishani hai
akhri wakt tak mushkil aur zulm ka mukabla karna chaiye,,, himmat aur umeed nahi khatam karni chaiye,, Allah miyan ussis ki madad karte hein jo apni madad khud kare

...and those who reamin steadfast firm and patient (steadfast), in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing. (2:177)

Allah SWT used the word "Sabr" which doesn't mean patience only (bear the pain without any effort to avert it) but it means steadfastness (to endure hardship but persist with effort to turn it around)

SALL said:

at the 2nd hand,,,
har mushkil wakt mei sir jhuka k Allah ka shukar adaa karna chaiye,, kyunke haar kaam mei Khuda ki maslehat hai

can someone explain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
kya chakkar hai yeh,, konsi baat kahan tak sahi hai

Thanking Allah in all circumstances is required from a believer.

Allah swt bestowed humans with ability to work with all faculties but outcomes of that work remain to the will of Allah. Allah loves those who rely upon Him for desireable rsults after putting in full efforts.